Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-16 Thread Mark Jordan
Apologies to anyone who is not interested in this thread, but I'm curious to know what backup software comparable to OS X Time Machine Linux users have on their lap/desktops. Time Machine is one of those parts of OS X that would make it hard for me to emigrate from the garden. Mark -

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-16 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
I've been happy with sbackup for a while now, though I believe the latest Ubuntus are using DejaDup? But I can't remember the last time I needed to restore a file. -Mike On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 13:06, Mark Jordan mjor...@sfu.ca wrote: Apologies to anyone who is not interested in this thread,

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-16 Thread Thomas Bennett
I don't know how it compares to Time Machine but as far as Linux backup software goes I really like Bacula. You can backup to disk, tape, or tape libraries. Thomas On Friday 16 December 2011 13:06:02 you wrote: Apologies to anyone who is not interested in this thread, but I'm curious to

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-16 Thread Mark Jordan
Hi Mike, - Original Message - I've been happy with sbackup for a while now, though I believe the latest Ubuntus are using DejaDup? But I can't remember the last time I needed to restore a file. Me either - my use case is restoring my whole system. I've had two Macbooks over 5.5

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-16 Thread Esmé Cowles
Mark- One option which works on any Linux/Unix machine (including OSX) is rsync with the --link-dest option. This does the same thing as Time Machine: it creates backups that hardlink to existing copies of files (if they exist) saving disk space on unchanged files. There are lots of

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-16 Thread Pottinger, Hardy J.
Hi, I'll just chime in for my favorite backup solution for my stuff at home: BackuPC [1]. You set up a dedicated box on your local network, and it backs up configured clients (Mac, Linux, Windows), whenever it finds them. I've got it tweaked a bit to also back up a few personal web sites that I

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-15 Thread Iván V . G .
After reading the many responses to your question I just have to add to points to all that's been said: .- Regarding the hardware, I'm lately devoted to Dell, and (at least a few months ago) they have some models with Ubuntu you can buy (there are less configuration options, but you can get

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-15 Thread Thomas Bennett
On Wednesday 14 December 2011 11:31:03 you wrote: I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. I'm curious what people can suggest for linux laptop? Any suggestions for distros and hardware? thanks. b,chris. Short version -

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-15 Thread Paul Cummins
On 12/15/2011 09:57 AM, Thomas Bennett wrote: On Wednesday 14 December 2011 11:31:03 you wrote: I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. I'm curious what people can suggest for linux laptop? Any suggestions for distros and hardware?

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-15 Thread Thomas Bennett
Then there is also, MINIX. A year or two ago they received a large grant to continue work on that OS. My understanding is that the main difference between MINIX and the others is that MINIX only loads modules when required instead of all on boot to minimize the memory footprint. Also, if a

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-15 Thread Christian Pietsch
Hi Chris, congratulations on your decision. I went from DOS and Windows to Linux and Mac OS X, but after a few months I returned to Linux for good (firing up Windows only to fill out the occasional MS Word form that looks weird in LibreOffice). You have already received a lot of good advice, so

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Devon
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick cf...@stanford.edu wrote: I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. I'm curious what people can suggest for linux laptop? Any suggestions for distros and hardware? thanks. b,chris.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:31, Chris Fitzpatrick cf...@stanford.edu wrote: I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. I'm curious what people can suggest for linux laptop? Any suggestions for distros and hardware? I've been using

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Mike Taylor
I'll throw in another +1 for Ubuntu. Among the mainstream distributions, it's the one that makes the most effort to set things in the Do What You Want way that Apple is so good at. Regarding hardware: remember that ALL computer hardware these days is insanely over-specced. So buy last year's

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Nate Vack
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick cf...@stanford.edu wrote: I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. What caused this moment? If you're thinking man, OS X is so dodgy or this is some crap quality hardware then a

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Dave Caroline
You just cannot do the technical futzing easily on mac or doze, I too am a Ubuntu user on my desktop and servers getting stuff done web wise is faster that way.I expect to run the apache,php,mysql and replicate systems that are servers windows and mac screw with stupid things like case in the file

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Ethan Gruber
How much futzing around is required on MacOS since it doesn't have a good package manager? On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com wrote: You just cannot do the technical futzing easily on mac or doze, I too am a Ubuntu user on my desktop and servers

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Ross Singer
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com wrote: You just cannot do the technical futzing easily on mac or doze, I too am a Ubuntu user on my desktop and servers getting stuff done web wise is faster that way.I expect to run the apache,php,mysql and replicate

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Ethan Gruber ewg4x...@gmail.com wrote: How much futzing around is required on MacOS since it doesn't have a good package manager? /usr/bin/ruby -e $(curl -fsSL https://raw.github.com/gist/323731)

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Ross Singer
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Mark A. Matienzo m...@matienzo.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Ethan Gruber ewg4x...@gmail.com wrote: How much futzing around is required on MacOS since it doesn't have a good package manager? /usr/bin/ruby -e $(curl -fsSL

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Tod Olson
On Dec 14, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Ross Singer wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Mark A. Matienzo m...@matienzo.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Ethan Gruber ewg4x...@gmail.com wrote: How much futzing around is required on MacOS since it doesn't have a good package manager?

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Chris Fitzpatrick
Thanks everyone for all the recommendations. I know this would be this list to ask. Sounds like Ubuntu is the overwhelming favorite. In the past when I've used a linux in a non-server computer, there are always some annoying problems... things like the laptop not waking from sleep mode, power

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Thomas Dowling
On 12/14/2011 12:18 PM, Bill Dueber wrote: The question you should ask yourself -- AND PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, LET'S NOT HASH IT OUT ON THIS LIST!!! -- is, How much of my time spent futzing around with Linux instead of Getting Shit Done is voting-with-my-feet worth to me? Is Linux

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Roy Zimmer
Check out the below companies. I have no experience with them, but were I in your shoes, I'd take a thorough look. http://www.system76.com/ http://zareason.com/shop/home.php http://www.emperorlinux.com/ Roy Zimmer Western Michigan University On 12/14/2011 11:31 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote:

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Erik Hetzner
At Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:54:09 -0800, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks everyone for all the recommendations. I know this would be this list to ask. Sounds like Ubuntu is the overwhelming favorite. In the past when I've used a linux in a non-server computer, there are always some annoying

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Birkin Diana
Possible bridges to whatever you decide to get: - Use Ubuntu on VirtualBox on your Mac (yes, I did see the using 'linux in a non-server computer' concern -- thus the bridge qualification). - Depending on the issues and languages you're using, use in-language package-managers. For example, we

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Chris Fitzpatrick
Thanks! Evil doesn't really concern me. If I could run Ubuntu on a laptop made in the pits of hell by the dark lord himself, I would certainly do it. Just as long as I never have to say the words Genius Bar, I will be happy. On Dec 14, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Birkin Diana wrote: Possible

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Cecchino, Nicola
, December 14, 2011 2:41 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop If Apple is evil, I'd look more towards hardware and its environmental manufacturing impact rather than software/OS/culture. Everyone puts up a good face: http://www.apple.com/environment/ http

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Michael Lindsey
+1 Would love to get tight hardware integration without the social nail polish... On 12/14/2011 11:45 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks! Evil doesn't really concern me. If I could run Ubuntu on a laptop made in the pits of hell by the dark lord himself, I would certainly do it. Just as

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Devon
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Chris Fitzpatrick cf...@stanford.edu wrote: Thanks! Evil doesn't really concern me. If I could run Ubuntu on a laptop made in the pits of hell by the dark lord himself, I would certainly do it. Will this do? http://ubuntusatanic.org/screenshots.php.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Diggory
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Devon dec...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Chris Fitzpatrick cf...@stanford.edu wrote: Thanks! Evil doesn't really concern me. If I could run Ubuntu on a laptop made in the pits of hell by the dark lord himself, I would certainly

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread andrew
On 14.12.2011 11:31, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote: I just had a Howard Beale moment with Apple. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. I'm curious what people can suggest for linux laptop? Any suggestions for distros and hardware? thanks. b,chris. INSTALL GENTOO

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread MJ Ray
Bill Dueber b...@dueber.com Because, really, you'll spend time futzing with linux, trying to get stuff to work, cursing the many clipboards and config files and losing productivity up the ying-yang because you're using a different (and, few would argue, degraded) user environment. I don't see

Re: [CODE4LIB] Linux Laptop

2011-12-14 Thread Madrigal, Juan A
FreeBSD FTW! ;) -Juan On 12/14/11 5:09 PM, Alexander Johannesen alexander.johanne...@gmail.com wrote: MJ Ray m...@phonecoop.coop wrote: I humbly suggest that long futz times are only necessary these days when most of the following combine: Hmm. 1. unsupported/hard-to-support hardware