Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization

2013-11-04 Thread Ross Singer
And yet for the last 50 years they've been creating MARC? For the last 20, they've been making EAD, TEI, etc? As with any of these, there is an expectation that end users will not be hand rolling machine readable serializations, but inputting into interfaces. That is not to say there aren't

Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization

2013-11-04 Thread Ross Singer
Eric, I can't help but think that part of your problem is that you're using RDF/XML, which definitely makes it harder to understand and visualize the data model. It might help if you switched to an RDF native serialization, like Turtle, which definitely helps with regards to seeing RDF. -Ross.

Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization

2013-11-04 Thread Eric Lease Morgan
I am of two minds when it comes to Linked Data and the Semantic Web. Libraries and many other professions have been encoding things for a long time, but encoding the description of a book (MARC) or marking up texts (TEI), is not the same as encoding knowledge — a goal of the Semantic Web. The

Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization

2013-11-04 Thread Karen Coyle
On 11/3/13 12:45 PM, Eric Lease Morgan wrote: Cool input. Thank you. I believe I have tweaked my assertions: 1. The Declaration of Independence was written by Thomas Jefferson rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf=http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#; xmlns:dc=http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/;

Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization

2013-11-04 Thread Karen Coyle
+1. kc On 11/4/13 3:40 AM, Ross Singer wrote: Eric, I can't help but think that part of your problem is that you're using RDF/XML, which definitely makes it harder to understand and visualize the data model. It might help if you switched to an RDF native serialization, like Turtle, which

[CODE4LIB] eeking participants for the survey of instititional digital repositories, receive free copy of report

2013-11-04 Thread James Moses
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Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization

2013-11-04 Thread Aaron Rubinstein
+1! Well said, Karen. I would add (to further abuse your metaphor) that it’s also possible to make a delicious dish with simple ingredients. With minimal knowledge, most non-computer science-y folks can cook up some structured data in RDF, maybe encoded in RDFa and deliver it on the same HTML

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2013-11-04 Thread jobs
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[CODE4LIB] We should use HTTPS on code4lib.org

2013-11-04 Thread William Denton
I think it's time we made everything on code4lib.org use HTTPS by default and redirect people to HTTPS from HTTP when needed. (Right now there's an outdated self-signed SSL certificate on the site, so someone took a stab at this earlier, but it's time to do it right.) StartCom gives free SSL

Re: [CODE4LIB] We should use HTTPS on code4lib.org

2013-11-04 Thread Ethan Gruber
NSA broke it already On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 1:42 PM, William Denton w...@pobox.com wrote: I think it's time we made everything on code4lib.org use HTTPS by default and redirect people to HTTPS from HTTP when needed. (Right now there's an outdated self-signed SSL certificate on the site, so

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Re: [CODE4LIB] We should use HTTPS on code4lib.org

2013-11-04 Thread Ross Singer
While I'm not opposed to providing code4lib.org via HTTPS, I don't think it's as simple as let's just do it!. Who will be responsible for making sure the cert is up to date? Who will pay for certs (if we don't go with startcom)? Also, forcing all traffic to HTTPS unnecessarily complicates some

Re: [CODE4LIB] We should use HTTPS on code4lib.org

2013-11-04 Thread Christian Pietsch
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 01:45:12PM -0500, Ethan Gruber wrote: NSA broke it already Very funny but untrue. While it is certainly possible to create an insecure TLS certificate, for all we know it is not true that TLS has been broken in general. It is still one of the most usable protections

Re: [CODE4LIB] We should use HTTPS on code4lib.org

2013-11-04 Thread Karen Coyle
Let me second Ross's cautions here. The Internet Archive made the leap to https about 10 days ago and there are still services that are broken because of it. c4l should be simpler because there aren't services like sending files to Kindle or complex APIs (at least, I don't think so), but it's

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2013-11-04 Thread Johan Oomen
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Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization

2013-11-04 Thread Kyle Banerjee
In general, people do not think very systematically nor very logically. We are humans full of ambiguity, feelings, and perceptions If we — as a whole — have this difficulty, then how can we expect to capture and encode data, information, and knowledge with the rigor that a computer

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Re: [CODE4LIB] rdf serialization

2013-11-04 Thread Alexander Johannesen
Hiya, On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:59 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Eric, I really don't see how RDF or linked data is any more difficult to grasp than a database design Well, there's at least one thing which makes people tilt; the flexible structures for semantics (or, ontologies) in

[CODE4LIB] more suggestions for code4lib.org

2013-11-04 Thread Kevin Hawkins
While we're making suggestions for improving the infrastructure of code4lib.org, here are some things I'd like to see improved: a) Change the email link in the navbar (and in the text at http://code4lib.org/about ) from https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=CODE4LIBA=1 to