Re: [CODE4LIB] Ten years

2009-04-20 Thread Daniel Chudnov

On Apr 18, 2009, at 4:13 PM, Roy Tennant wrote:


Domain Name:OSS4LIB.ORG
Created On:17-Nov-1999 23:05:50 UTC


That's just the domain.  The site, and the list, went online in  
roughly February 1999, based at yale.  Wayback found out about it in  
april:


  http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://info.med.yale.edu/library/oss4lib


So perhaps ten years isn't that far off after all. I also had no  
idea it was

registered by someone in Portugal.


All 280 of us here relocated the home office to Lisbon in 2006.  Where  
have you been?  And why don't you visit?


In case anybody wondered, that list is still alive, as are the  
majority of its subscribers.  Feel free to use it if you like.


  -Dan


Re: [CODE4LIB] Ten years

2009-04-19 Thread Brenda Chawner
My take: the projects are increasingly international, and now affect all 
aspects of library services, at least somewhere. I’m currently analysing my 
survey results (you may have received the invitation to participate last year), 
and I received responses from people in 33 countries, naming 43 individual 
projects (many of them library-specific, like Koha and Evergreen, and but 
others that were more general, like Plone and Drupal). FLOSS is almost 
mainstream for some things, particularly IRs and web content management, where 
the proprietary options are less mature (or too expensive for libraries).

I’ll be posting a better summary of the results when I have more to say (in a 
month or so, I hope). The other activity on my radar is developing an ‘advanced 
IT’ elective as part of our MLIS programme, and FLOSS licences, processes, and 
projects will be a large part of the curriculum. I’d be interested in hearing 
ideas from people here about what it should cover, and how much practical work 
(like scripting/writing CSS) it should include.

Brenda


On 19/04/09 8:13 AM, Roy Tennant tenna...@oclc.org wrote:

 At first I was thinking only ten years? Really? But then I realized that
 you were talking about true library open source software (as opposed to
 librarians involved with open source projects, which clearly predated 1999),
 and that it was when the movement became self-aware. So then I became
 curious when the oss4lib.org domain was registered and a quick WHOIS lookup
 told me:

 Domain Name:OSS4LIB.ORG
 Created On:17-Nov-1999 23:05:50 UTC

 So perhaps ten years isn't that far off after all. I also had no idea it was
 registered by someone in Portugal.
 Roy


 On 4/18/09 4/18/09 € 6:17 AM, Peter Schlumpf pschlu...@earthlink.net
 wrote:

 This might be a good time to reflect upon where we've been and where we're
 headed.  Almost exactly ten years have passed, I think, since open source
 software in libraries became self-aware as a movement.  Sure, there has
 always
 been open source software, but I would mark the real start as when the
 oss4lib
 listserv came into being.  It provided a forum for like-minded folks to kick
 around ideas and discuss what they were doing.

 I remember ALA 2000 in Chicago.  That was cool!  Tim O'Reilly graciously gave
 us space at his booth there, letting us show off the early projects we were
 doing.  And to any of you who happened to be at NERCOMP at Wesleyan
 University
 in Connecticut the following year -- I apologise.  I am not an extemporaneous
 speaker, as I discovered!

 Then Koha happened.  Then Evergreen, and a multitude of other projects.
 Overall, I am pleased by what has happened.  Open source software for
 libraries has matured into a real option for any library.  My little project
 fell by the wayside during that time, but it's always been there -- I just
 haven't done much with it.  I am returning to it now with fresh ideas.

 What do the rest of you think about the past ten years?  What about the next
 ten?

 Peter Schlumpf
 Avanti Library Systems
 http://www.avantilibrarysystems.com


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[CODE4LIB] Ten years

2009-04-18 Thread Peter Schlumpf
This might be a good time to reflect upon where we've been and where we're 
headed.  Almost exactly ten years have passed, I think, since open source 
software in libraries became self-aware as a movement.  Sure, there has always 
been open source software, but I would mark the real start as when the oss4lib 
listserv came into being.  It provided a forum for like-minded folks to kick 
around ideas and discuss what they were doing.

I remember ALA 2000 in Chicago.  That was cool!  Tim O'Reilly graciously gave 
us space at his booth there, letting us show off the early projects we were 
doing.  And to any of you who happened to be at NERCOMP at Wesleyan University 
in Connecticut the following year -- I apologise.  I am not an extemporaneous 
speaker, as I discovered!

Then Koha happened.  Then Evergreen, and a multitude of other projects.  
Overall, I am pleased by what has happened.  Open source software for libraries 
has matured into a real option for any library.  My little project fell by the 
wayside during that time, but it's always been there -- I just haven't done 
much with it.  I am returning to it now with fresh ideas.

What do the rest of you think about the past ten years?  What about the next 
ten?

Peter Schlumpf
Avanti Library Systems
http://www.avantilibrarysystems.com


Re: [CODE4LIB] Ten years

2009-04-18 Thread Roy Tennant
At first I was thinking only ten years? Really? But then I realized that
you were talking about true library open source software (as opposed to
librarians involved with open source projects, which clearly predated 1999),
and that it was when the movement became self-aware. So then I became
curious when the oss4lib.org domain was registered and a quick WHOIS lookup
told me:

Domain Name:OSS4LIB.ORG
Created On:17-Nov-1999 23:05:50 UTC

So perhaps ten years isn't that far off after all. I also had no idea it was
registered by someone in Portugal.
Roy


On 4/18/09 4/18/09 € 6:17 AM, Peter Schlumpf pschlu...@earthlink.net
wrote:

 This might be a good time to reflect upon where we've been and where we're
 headed.  Almost exactly ten years have passed, I think, since open source
 software in libraries became self-aware as a movement.  Sure, there has always
 been open source software, but I would mark the real start as when the oss4lib
 listserv came into being.  It provided a forum for like-minded folks to kick
 around ideas and discuss what they were doing.
 
 I remember ALA 2000 in Chicago.  That was cool!  Tim O'Reilly graciously gave
 us space at his booth there, letting us show off the early projects we were
 doing.  And to any of you who happened to be at NERCOMP at Wesleyan University
 in Connecticut the following year -- I apologise.  I am not an extemporaneous
 speaker, as I discovered!
 
 Then Koha happened.  Then Evergreen, and a multitude of other projects.
 Overall, I am pleased by what has happened.  Open source software for
 libraries has matured into a real option for any library.  My little project
 fell by the wayside during that time, but it's always been there -- I just
 haven't done much with it.  I am returning to it now with fresh ideas.
 
 What do the rest of you think about the past ten years?  What about the next
 ten?
 
 Peter Schlumpf
 Avanti Library Systems
 http://www.avantilibrarysystems.com
 

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