Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-10 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Craig McClanahan craigmcc at apache.org writes: Someone had asked earlier about how Commons projects accomplished this goal before Maven. The answer was a convention for using Ant build.xml scripts that referenced a series of build.properties files containing definitions for things like what

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-10 Thread Joerg Heinicke
David Blevins david.blevins at visi.com writes: Only passively reading the thread, but from some of the comments and your commit message it looks like you just need JDK 1.3 compiled versions of those specs. Yes, that's it. I'd be happy to apply your pom changes in the geronimo tree and

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-10 Thread Henri Yandell
This is an interesting 'request to developers': http://www.jpackage.org/jpprequest.php with some reasons for why putting in the external binaries is a pain for redistributing. Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-10 Thread David Blevins
On Jan 10, 2007, at 2:39 AM, Joerg Heinicke wrote: David Blevins david.blevins at visi.com writes: Only passively reading the thread, but from some of the comments and your commit message it looks like you just need JDK 1.3 compiled versions of those specs. Yes, that's it. Cool. I'd

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-09 Thread David Blevins
On Jan 8, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Joerg Heinicke wrote: David Blevins david.blevins at visi.com writes: If someone needs JDK 1.3 versions of any spec jar, I'd be happy to help. OpenJPA had a similar request recently (JDK 1.3 version of JTA 1.1) and I made sure to do the final release of that spec

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-08 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Simon Kitching skitching at apache.org writes: When using maven, only the first run needs to download the jars ... So, no need for internet access at build time. For ant ... This can be run *once* to download the jars, but is not part of the main build task, so there is no need for

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-08 Thread David Blevins
On Jan 7, 2007, at 6:28 PM, Phil Steitz wrote: I see the geronimo spec jars were added with the comment that they had been recompiled for JDK 1.3. If that is necessary, its probably better to first ask geronimo to produce *different* artifacts that satisfy this, or at least to rename

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-08 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 1/8/07, Joerg Heinicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Kitching skitching at apache.org writes: When using maven, only the first run needs to download the jars ... So, no need for internet access at build time. For ant ... This can be run *once* to download the jars, but is not part of

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-08 Thread Joerg Heinicke
David Blevins david.blevins at visi.com writes: If someone needs JDK 1.3 versions of any spec jar, I'd be happy to help. OpenJPA had a similar request recently (JDK 1.3 version of JTA 1.1) and I made sure to do the final release of that spec with JDK 1.3. What exactly do you have in mind

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-08 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Craig McClanahan craigmcc at apache.org writes: Storing JAR files in your source repository (or pretty much any other scenario where you check in things that have been generated, instead of rebuilding them) has the following negative impacts: * Bypasses the normal mechanisms people use to

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-08 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 1/8/07, Joerg Heinicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig McClanahan craigmcc at apache.org writes: Storing JAR files in your source repository (or pretty much any other scenario where you check in things that have been generated, instead of rebuilding them) has the following negative

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-07 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Simon Kitching skitching at apache.org writes: For a start, if every project were to do this, the impact on the Apache SVN repository would be huge. Cocoon (maintenance branch 2.1) has currently 111 jars with about 40 MB in its repository (+ the one for the environment [2]), we are regularly

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-07 Thread Martin Cooper
On 1/7/07, Joerg Heinicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Kitching skitching at apache.org writes: For a start, if every project were to do this, the impact on the Apache SVN repository would be huge. Cocoon (maintenance branch 2.1) has currently 111 jars with about 40 MB in its repository

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-07 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Martin Cooper martinc at apache.org writes: In general I don't like the need for internet access on build time. This is a red herring. One way or another, you're going to have to get the jars from the network, whether it's getting them from SVN, or having Maven or Ant retrieve them. And in

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-07 Thread Matt Benson
--- Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [SNIP] This is a red herring. One way or another, you're going to have to get the jars from the network, whether it's getting them from SVN, or having Maven or Ant retrieve them. And in all of those three cases, once you have them on your local

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-07 Thread Simon Kitching
On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 17:08 +, Joerg Heinicke wrote: Martin Cooper martinc at apache.org writes: In general I don't like the need for internet access on build time. This is a red herring. One way or another, you're going to have to get the jars from the network, whether it's

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-07 Thread Phil Steitz
On 1/7/07, Joerg Heinicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Cooper martinc at apache.org writes: In general I don't like the need for internet access on build time. This is a red herring. One way or another, you're going to have to get the jars from the network, whether it's getting them

[all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-06 Thread Simon Kitching
Hi, I noticed (due to a recent commit message) that commons-transaction has jarfiles checked in to svn, eg http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/commons/proper/transaction/trunk/lib/ What's the general policy on this? Sorry if this has been discussed before; I don't remember it. Personally, I

Re: [all] jarfiles in svn

2007-01-06 Thread Martin Cooper
On 1/6/07, Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I noticed (due to a recent commit message) that commons-transaction has jarfiles checked in to svn, eg http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/commons/proper/transaction/trunk/lib/ What's the general policy on this? Sorry if this has