Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges
Sorry for starting this thread in two list but I was not sure where to post it in the first place. My intention was not to make noise! If I did I am very sorry for that. I will answer the thread in incubator. spot thorsten El sáb, 16-10-2004 a las 04:53, Roy T. Fielding escribió: A few weeks ago, many people encouraged Niclas Hedhman not to bring private matters into the public here. Now, some people want this issue brought into public, whereas others say it should be handled only with the Incubator PMC, or possibly the Board. The general at incubator mailing list is a public list. Anyone interested in participating in the incubation of new projects should join it. That is where such topics are discussed. Cross-posting to two public lists, when one of which is responsible for the topic and the other (community) is not responsible for much of anything, only generates noise. I don't like noise. It interferes with progress. Roy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges
A few weeks ago, many people encouraged Niclas Hedhman not to bring private matters into the public here. Now, some people want this issue brought into public, whereas others say it should be handled only with the Incubator PMC, or possibly the Board. The general at incubator mailing list is a public list. Anyone interested in participating in the incubation of new projects should join it. That is where such topics are discussed. Cross-posting to two public lists, when one of which is responsible for the topic and the other (community) is not responsible for much of anything, only generates noise. I don't like noise. It interferes with progress. Roy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges
Hello lists, what if incubating mentors would abuse their powers to interfer with the normal evolution of Apache incubation projects. I think that mentors could write off-list mails to possible committers and discourage them to committ to a incubating projects. On the end this mentor could recommend to the possible incubating committer to work on a *NON* apache project instead of the incubating project. THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION TO THE APACHE WAY TO DO THINGS!!! I reckon we recommend to ban such mentors because they have not understood the Apache way. I think they not deserve to carry a @apache.org branding. I am still learning that way but I know that we are not a marketing place. If they not abusing their powers they are welcome to help building a good community and good code. I hope that we can make some rules in Apache to prevent that to happen. I think a abuse of e.g. mentor powers should be punished by a ban! I think we do not want that to happen here. So we should make sure that is not! How can we make sure that this will not happen in the ASF? WDYT? spot thorsten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges
Do you have a concrete case for this or is this just blue-skying? Regards Henning On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 02:11, thorsten wrote: Hello lists, what if incubating mentors would abuse their powers to interfer with the normal evolution of Apache incubation projects. I think that mentors could write off-list mails to possible committers and discourage them to committ to a incubating projects. On the end this mentor could recommend to the possible incubating committer to work on a *NON* apache project instead of the incubating project. THAT WOULD BE A VIOLATION TO THE APACHE WAY TO DO THINGS!!! I reckon we recommend to ban such mentors because they have not understood the Apache way. I think they not deserve to carry a @apache.org branding. I am still learning that way but I know that we are not a marketing place. If they not abusing their powers they are welcome to help building a good community and good code. I hope that we can make some rules in Apache to prevent that to happen. I think a abuse of e.g. mentor powers should be punished by a ban! I think we do not want that to happen here. So we should make sure that is not! How can we make sure that this will not happen in the ASF? WDYT? spot thorsten - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen INTERMETA GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]+49 9131 50 654 0 http://www.intermeta.de/ RedHat Certified Engineer -- Jakarta Turbine Development -- hero for hire Linux, Java, perl, Solaris -- Consulting, Training, Development What is more important to you... [ ] Product Security or [ ] Quality of Sales and Marketing Support -- actual question from a Microsoft customer survey - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges
On 15 Oct 2004, at 02:11, thorsten wrote: what if incubating mentors would abuse their powers to interfer with the normal evolution of Apache incubation projects. Hm. That's quite some statement to make. Any fact to back that up? Of course, this could and should not happen - ever. But seriously: how would such power lay in the hands of mentors? Isn't someone supposed to disregard such pushy politics, whatever their origin is? But first and foremost, I'd like to know if and where this has been happening - because you seem to suggest so. /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source Java XMLAn Orixo Member Read my weblog athttp://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.orgstevenn at apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] How to prevent abusing Apache priviliges
Steven Noels wrote: On 15 Oct 2004, at 02:11, thorsten wrote: what if incubating mentors would abuse their powers to interfer with the normal evolution of Apache incubation projects. Hm. That's quite some statement to make. Any fact to back that up? Of course, this could and should not happen - ever. But seriously: how would such power lay in the hands of mentors? Isn't someone supposed to disregard such pushy politics, whatever their origin is? But first and foremost, I'd like to know if and where this has been happening - because you seem to suggest so. /Steven A few weeks ago, many people encouraged Niclas Hedhman not to bring private matters into the public here. Now, some people want this issue brought into public, whereas others say it should be handled only with the Incubator PMC, or possibly the Board. Upon further thinking, I see that you, Steven, are on the Incubator PMC so perhaps you wanted to know about this, but in private. If so, that wasn't entirely clear. Let's keep our signals straight. -- Dave Brondsema signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
