Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
Problem solved, as in option 2:
http://www.dualsim.de/
That's kind of a solution, except it looks complicated and seems to
require me to mod my phone, which is a high enough barrier to entry that
I'm not likely to do it.
I fear that having two GSM modules does
Robert Michel wrote:
As longer we are active on this list as more difficult will it be for
new subscriber to do not write an idea that wasn't already written on
this list. About second SIM card we have several threads:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-November/000112.html
(we
From slashdot
(http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/31/0124237):
Mass Storage For Phones
The Demo conference started today, and the first news out of it comes
from Seagate, which will be introducing pocket-sized, 20-GB,
Bluetooth-equipped drives for cellphones this summer. They call
Hi,
I can do it in French ... :)
Rgds
Foucault
On 1/31/07, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And me could help in Spanish translation, but I suppose it's being done by FIC.
Best regards,
2007/1/30, Denis Kot [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I can try to help to translate to
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 09:11:53AM -0800, Dimitris Kogias wrote:
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On 1/31/07 12:32 AM, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So can you say us already a little more about the GSM chip?
Sure. We're using a Ti Calypso chipset. Unfortunately this stuff is all
Salve Harald!
Thank you for the list.
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Harald Welte wrote:
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 09:11:53AM -0800, Dimitris Kogias wrote:
Isn't the AT-capable port going to be available to userland via a serial
abstraction? If so, its AT command profile won't be a secret very long.
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 04:33:01PM -, Michael Fletcher wrote:
Hi All
I am very excited about this phone! Cannot wait to get my hands on one!
I was wondering, I have been searched the mailing list, but can't seem
to find an answer. Will it be possible to connect a powered USB
Salve!
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Michael Fletcher wrote:
I was wondering, I have been searched the mailing list, but can't seem
to find an answer. Will it be possible to connect a powered USB HUB
into the 1973. So that for example the phone can charge, have a USB
WiFi dongle attached and
Salve Suresh!
I'm just a listmember, but maybe my answer will help you.
The core developers are very busy at the moment so everybody
has to use patience when things will be published.
And also the official realease would create more feedback
when they are able to publish unpublished fakts ... :)
I suppose we 'll get access to localization files when the SDK is
published.
Hopefully, there will be some sort of source code translation
repository, or we'll need to establish it.
How will OM/FIC team manage translations?
Is it a good idea to have a separate mailing list for translation
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 13:15:28 Robert Michel wrote:
But comparing this $85 with the price of every other component in the
Neo1973 makes clear, that it is not only the matter of size why it is
not so likly to have such a hdd included in a smartphone.
Furthermore, 8G flash USB sticks
Incidentally, I've done free software translations into Finnish before,
and I live with someone who has also, and happen to know quite a few
other people with experience and interest in this area as well. I'm not
sure at this point how much I can personally promise to do for Finnish
translations,
If needed, I'm going to translate the GUI in
german. I think a page in the wiki (when avaliable)
showing the translation-process would be great,
so you can checkout what isn't done by now.
A question, related to translations:
Will translations handled like they are
in Opie? (A package you can
I prefer using my phone, pc, pda, ... in english, but I can do translation
in dutch ( or at least a part )
I assume that a lot has to be translated.
On 1/31/07, Fabian Off [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If needed, I'm going to translate the GUI in
german. I think a page in the wiki (when avaliable)
In my opinion the translations must be done professionally for such a product
like this. Instead of volunteers who are not professionals, volunteers who are
professionals and volunteer who can provide a professional translation must
localize this product. I localized RSSOwl into Turkish, and I
Salve Engin!
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Engin Erenturk wrote:
In my opinion the translations must be done professionally for such a product
like this. Instead of volunteers who are not professionals, volunteers who
are professionals and volunteer who can provide a professional translation
must
Robert Michel writes:
Brilliant! Thanks for that :-)
So now the question, how does an USB hub work?
Can we plug in the host on any port?
Short form: USB is strictly a hierarchical, tree-structured network.
There is one host, which may connect to the upstream port on a hub;
you can then plug
Salve Engin!
I like your motivation and your will to find a some experienced in
localisation/translation. You have the experiance with the
localization of RSSOwl and that the help of 3 friends seems not to
be enought to reach a professional translation.
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Engin Erenturk
Hi community,
maybe after publication of the translation, few choice could be left
and everyone could vote for the best translation with a little poll.
Translation files could be extracted from all the most voted sentences/words.
System can be extended to any new application whitch need
Salve José!
Your offer started a very fruitfull thread - thank you!
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, José Suárez wrote:
Hi to everybody.
I've been quite excited about the OpenMoko development and release
schedule.
I'm pretty sure I would like to buy one Neo1973 when they were
available and
became
Hi,
The idea sounds good. For this kind of software a multitouch screen
would be nice. The same nice hardware like apple uses for the iPhone. So
you can mix more then one sound together depending on how much
fingers you have :`)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's not difficult to understand but I think it's not a very intuitive
idea. Ideally future OpenMoko devices would have multitouch which
would get us very intuitive zoom and movement along the map. Using an
accelerometer to control something is a good idea for the Wii where
you have the
Good!
Please make a page.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can help with the Hebrew also
I'll make a page on the wiki for this (if it hasn't been done already).
--
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Tel./Fax 03-613-2865 , mobile: 054-424-0865
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Engin Erenturk wrote:
In my opinion the translations must be done professionally for such a product
like this. Instead of volunteers who are not professionals, volunteers who are
professionals and volunteer who can provide a professional translation must
localize this
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
...
A compliant hub does not supply any power to the upstream device. If
you plug the Neo in to the upstream side of the hub (so it thinks it's
a host), it can't be charged by the hub. Of course, there are *lots*
of noncompliant devices out there,
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 01:49:36PM +0100, Robert Michel wrote:
I'm just a listmember, but maybe my answer will help you.
The core developers are very busy at the moment so everybody
has to use patience when things will be published.
exactly, thanks.
AFAIK when the first Neo1973 will be
It's very pleasant to see this fireworks of ideas.
can i add my feeling about usability of this device :
think about impaired people like blind people:
it will be very nice to help them to discover the virtual keyboard by for
example a continuous bass sound modulated by proximity of
Hi Richi,
You do know that the object path is specific to the daemon that provides
it anyway. The access to a method or signal of an interface is done via
the unique bus name _and_ the object path.
This means that daemon A can register /org/foo and daemon B can
register /org/foo and
David Ford wrote:
It's a great idea, never thought otherwise. My comment should be taken
to mean, don't reinvent the wheel, take the existing wheel, sand it down
like new, and refinish it so it's all bright and shiny again.
What if we want a wheel with rubber, rather than just bare wood?
On 1/31/07, Richi Plana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To justify this being on the developer list and not the community list I could
pretend that only developers will want vim on their Neo.
Why would you want vim (or any source editor) running on your Neo? First
of all, the primary interface to
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer writes:
Let's distinguish two types of popup-dialogs:
a) informative (i.e. battery low, incoming sms, sms sent)
b) confirmative (Mickey calling. Answer / Ignore / Reject?, Do you
want to remove all contacts?)
Right now, we're leaning towards (ab)using the bottom status bar
Salve Richi!
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Richi Plana wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 08:52 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Speaking of vim, will vim (or another derivitive of vi) be among the
included
applications, or shall I try cross-compiling it right now? (I can't live
w/out
vim).
To
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 20:13 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Let's distinguish two types of popup-dialogs:
a) informative (i.e. battery low, incoming sms, sms sent)
b) confirmative (Mickey calling. Answer / Ignore / Reject?, Do you
want to remove all contacts?)
Right now, we're
Elliot Foster wrote:
David Ford wrote:
It's a great idea, never thought otherwise. My comment should be
taken to mean, don't reinvent the wheel, take the existing wheel,
sand it down like new, and refinish it so it's all bright and shiny
again.
What if we want a wheel with rubber, rather
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 14:05 +0100, Harald Welte wrote:
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 01:49:36PM +0100, Robert Michel wrote:
I'm just a listmember, but maybe my answer will help you.
The core developers are very busy at the moment so everybody
has to use patience when things will be published.
Jon Phillips wrote:
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 14:05 +0100, Harald Welte wrote:
[...]
We don't consider MMS as something that the typical user of the Neo1973
would use anyway. We have SMS, and we have GPRS for services like ICQ,
Jabber, e-mail and the like.
If somebody in the community
Salve Mickey!
I think many users could live with popups,
but I would like to choose a solution that
would not nag me with full or havesize popups
I mean on the longterm, but as official design
of Openmoko, working with every aplication.
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Salve David!
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, David Ford wrote:
p.s. the subject line is no crossposting! which list do people want
this to remain on?
I think it is clear that it is a general talk about SMS/MMS
and not the question how to use the SDK, how to crosscompiling.
Without a clear seperation
* Myk Melez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070131 09:39]:
Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
Problem solved, as in option 2:
http://www.dualsim.de/
That's kind of a solution, except it looks complicated and seems to require
me to mod my phone, which is a high enough barrier to entry that I'm not
likely to
2007/1/31, Bryan Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think the first time it pops up while I'm doing something else
(Mickey calling. Answer/Ignore/Reject? while I'm putting something
on my calendar), and I accidentally click one of the buttons, I'm
going to be very annoyed. I'd also be annoyed if I had
Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
2007/1/31, Bryan Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think the first time it pops up while I'm doing something else
(Mickey calling. Answer/Ignore/Reject? while I'm putting something
on my calendar), and I accidentally click one of the buttons, I'm
going to be very annoyed.
Heya,
I think many users could live with popups,
but I would like to choose a solution that
would not nag me with full or havesize popups
Do you have a viable alternative (except full undo/redo capabilities,
which would be desirable, but takes a whole lot of memory and/or
disk)?
Let's
Salve Krzysztof!
Great!
Krzysztof Kajkowski schrieb am Mittwoch, den 31. Januar 2007 um 22:03h:
2007/1/31, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Please all visit:
http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/Translation
and add your name when you like to join.
Polnish seems to get a strong
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
[..]
D'oh. That surprises me a bit... after all, the Neo is a phone, so I
would think incoming phone calls should always popup [in default
profile]. What do the others think?
It shouldn't :) Do you answer all calls to your phone?
My phone is often very busy
I tend to be of the mentality that the phone is for my convenience, not
others. Therefore, I like the ideas being suggested that incoming
calls/text messages/emails/etc are indicated by a simple, polite icon on a
status bar somewhere flashing for my attention.
If the application I'm running is
Steven Milburn wrote:
I tend to be of the mentality that the phone is for my convenience,
not others. Therefore, I like the ideas being suggested that
incoming calls/text messages/emails/etc are indicated by a simple,
polite icon on a status bar somewhere flashing for my attention.
If
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Do you really want e.g. the incoming phone confirmation dialog behave like
that?
[more notification strategies]
...
I understand your point, I just think that this kind of thinking is not what
the majority of smartphone users wants or is it? Guys?
I
David Ford writes:
Here's a grand example. You're inside your voicemail navigating menus
and dealing with temporary information. Your phone rings in with a new
call and your fingers are busy hitting voicemail commands. *bam* Your
inbound phone call is accidently disconnected or answered not
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 16:55 -0600, Jonathon Suggs wrote:
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
Do you really want e.g. the incoming phone confirmation dialog behave
like that?
[more notification strategies]
...
I understand your point, I just think that this kind of thinking is not
what
On 1/31/07, Andrew Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My preference would be some system whereby I could select a list of
events that are allowed to interrupt me, and to what level they're
allowed to interrupt - visual: fullscreen/halfscreen/footer/none;
audio: interrupt/mix over/none.
This
On 1/31/07, Tomasz Zielinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2007/1/31, Bryan Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think the first time it pops up while I'm doing something else
(Mickey calling. Answer/Ignore/Reject? while I'm putting something
on my calendar), and I accidentally click one of the buttons, I'm
On 1/31/07, David Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
2007/1/31, Bryan Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think the first time it pops up while I'm doing something else
(Mickey calling. Answer/Ignore/Reject? while I'm putting something
on my calendar), and I accidentally click one
Redvers Davies wrote:
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 23:49 -0800, Elliot F. wrote:
Google talk has a persistent connection between the client and the
server. With a persistent connection, pushing data is pretty easy.
We have to use a persistant connection as most GSM networks use private
address
I already asked it to some internal E-mail address, the reaction back
then was positive but no real certainties.
Is there interest from the OpenMoko team for bringing tinymail to the
device? (http://tinymail.org)
I've been reading the discussions about push e-mail, and that idea is
all nice and
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 01:56 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote:
Nevertheless am I of course interested in whatever the final decision on
push E-mail will be.
By the way, in case people wonder about this.
On both POP3 and IMAP E-mail messages are uniquely identified by a so
called uid. The message
Well, you're not wrong, certainly: people use MMS even though it _is_ horribly
broken (and expensive, etc.) I guess the point I'm attempting to make here is
that in addition to the challenges in just getting a working phone out the
door, you sign up to take on what seems, to me, anyway, to be a
OpenMoko in Portuguese
http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenMoko
Regards,
Sergio
Robert Michel wrote:
Salve Krzysztof!
Great!
Krzysztof Kajkowski schrieb am Mittwoch, den 31. Januar 2007 um 22:03h:
2007/1/31, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Please all visit:
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
You might be right. But I personally feel that MMS is fundamentally
flawed. Costs aside, it's just not the way I think media should be
transferred. The benefits are just too low for the end user. We're
trying to fix this.
I agree. I have never used MMS, and very
Now, that doesn't mean that I am a representation of the *average* user...
I promise you, you're not.
A _person_ is intelligent; _people_ are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and
you know it.--Tommy Lee Jones as K in _Men in Black_
We
*must* be able to easily/effectively communicate with
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 22:48 -0700, Richi Plana wrote:
I, personally, do not use MMS. I'm not even sure if that service is
available here in Calgary, AB with the carriers here. I've had a dinky,
free phone since the start waiting for the right phone (this one) to
come along. However, we should
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