it appears ATT is fumbling all around with activating the iPhones.
http://thomashawk.com/2007/06/activating-new-iphone-thus-far-is-pain.html
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On 7/1/07, James Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Your're assuming an awfully clever thief here...I guess it's possible that
someone who pickpockets cell phones might know to flash the firmware, but
it's probable that most don't--I shouldn't think the majority of common
thieves would
The Neo1973's screen, with its huge resolution (for a portable device),
sounds absolutely beautiful.
However, I am a bit worried about its size, as the thing is smaller across
than a single screen on something like a Nintendo DS, which is hardly a big
screen. Does the resolution, or the size of
http://www.wefi.com/ seems to be along that lines, the software they are using
seems to be windows only at the moment though :(. But maybe somebody could
write and open source one that still has access to the Google Wifi Mappage that
works with the Neos GPS.
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 22:07:28
I calculated the costs for germany.
Think the shipping will be at about USD 20.
($300+$20)/1.34*1.19 = € 285
1.34 is relation dollar-euro, 1.19 the 19% Import-VAT in germany.
Mobile phones do not have taxes in the EU.
2007/7/2, Attila Csipa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Starting July 9th, we will
You won't see the resolution of the display in OpenMoko apps, because they
are optimized - so you will only see the fantastic quality here.
In unoptimized software you will see how small all is, but this won't make
the screen bigger. ;)
Of course the DS can have a bigger screen, because it's a
If I read the announcement of Sean correctly,
* only the GTA1 device will be 300 US$ and will be shipped directly
from Taiwan.
* the GTA2 devices will have local distributors and will cost 450 US$.
Secondly,
a distributor has to handle warranty and marketing, answer phone
calls, do
Anyone in Cape Town, South Africa willing to put together a group
purchase of Moko phones to minimise the shipping cost? (for the GTA1
release)?
Is this allowed?
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On Monday 02 July 2007 10:16, you wrote:
This usually adds *** at least 10% ***.
Therefore I would even prepare for 499 EUR and we all can be happy if
it is less and not more.
Not sure how much of the named costs the distributor actually needs to do (I
don't think he will have support on all
I think you are right with the distributor-problematic.
Maybe the devices will get cheaper when there's a bigger amount of orders.
Imho €500 is very much money, but if I had to pay this for a free, not as in
free beer, device - well, I had to pay it. ;)
Also I think that distributors will get the
I also have t.mobile. The key to getting the plan you need with any GSM
carrier is to tell them you have a phone that goes with the plan you
want. For example, call them up and tell them you just bought an
unlocked Treo 700w from Palm and want a data plan for it.
They will happily provide one.
How much bandwidth is needed? Do you have a system in place for
selling the phone online?
On Jul 1, 2007, at 12:14 AM, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On Jun 30, 2007, at 5:05 AM, Ian Stirling wrote:
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
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We've had a particularly challenging time trying to setup the online
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Hi -- I spotted a bit of discussion in the archives on this, but it
wasn't clear if it would be possible to add in alternate encryption
algorithms.
I'd like to get access to the voice packets prior to them being sent
out. The flow I'm hoping
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On Jun 30, 2007, at 5:05 AM, Ian Stirling wrote:
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
snip
We've had a particularly challenging time trying to setup the online
infrastructure and figure out how to ship these phones. Sometime later
today or early tomorrow we're going to make
Somehow I don't think that 'the OS/ browser/ app that you built' will excite
anyone except linux-guru's. ;-) (it would scare me away...)
Take a look at some of the N95 vs iPhone spoofs on youtube. Some of them are
really good:
Battery replacement:
su, 2007-07-01 kello 18:57 -0700, Dylan McCall kirjoitti:
The other way is an expansion via bluetooth, or via one of the existing
hard ports.
Occurs to me that you could manufacture (print, perchance) a thin
exoskeleton for the Neo where you attach a couple of thin buttons, and
in a side or
On Sunday 01 July 2007 06:25:06 Justin Mazzi wrote:
How much bandwidth is needed? Do you have a system in place for
selling the phone online?
I think he refers to company bandwidth (i.e. resources to organize sales etc),
not internet bandwidth
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iPhone: Damnit, lost my connection!
Why do people think that AJAX apps are necessarly remote ?
They can be local and drive internal components (such as a gsmd for
contacts/calling/messaging), do people really think that you'd have to
connect the Internet to write kitchen receipes ?
On Monday 02 July 2007 01:56:09 Patrick Madden wrote:
One of my research interests is encryption, and cell phones clearly
need some help. Will hacking along these lines be possible in the
upcoming release? The chip sets used in the phone might not expose
enough to do this, and if it's not
On Monday 02 July 2007 11:02, Nick Johnson wrote:
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I would do it myself, but from what I hear, the AGPS chip in the Neo
isn't even going to work on NZ's cellular network. Pity. :/
What gives you that idea? It can operate as a GPS without needing anything
from the operator. It can use a bit
ma, 2007-07-02 kello 22:02 +1200, Nick Johnson kirjoitti:
I would do it myself, but from what I hear, the AGPS chip in the Neo
isn't even going to work on NZ's cellular network. Pity. :/
Umm, the GPS chip and driver don't rely on the cellular network to
function. They can work completely
On 7/2/07, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 02 July 2007 11:02, Nick Johnson wrote:
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I would do it myself, but from what I hear, the AGPS chip in the Neo
isn't even going to work on NZ's cellular network. Pity. :/
What gives you that idea? It can operate as a GPS without
On 7/2/07, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Umm, the GPS chip and driver don't rely on the cellular network to
function. They can work completely stand-alone. You can get a quicker
cold fix if the driver can fetch some assist data from the network
(what, NZ don't have GPRS?), but this
someone has built an offline calendar/reminder tool called Remember The Milk:
http://www.rememberthemilk.com/
it's built on google gears - all the data and application is run
locally and re-synchronises on an internet connection appearing
On 7/2/07, Nick Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 02 July 2007 12:31:00 Nick Johnson wrote:
certainly what everything I've read has indicated. I thought it was
also required to get a fix at all - that the AGPS chip offloads some
of the harder work onto the network, as that's what a workmate told me
- but if he's wrong, I'm glad. ;)
On 7/2/07, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
someone has built an offline calendar/reminder tool called Remember The Milk:
http://www.rememberthemilk.com/
it's built on google gears - all the data and application is run
locally and re-synchronises on an internet connection appearing
Yes,
ma, 2007-07-02 kello 22:31 +1200, Nick Johnson kirjoitti:
NZ has GPRS, but my understanding was that the AGPS requires the
network to explicitly support it to get the assist data - that's
certainly what everything I've read has indicated. I thought it was
also required to get a fix at all -
How did the X-Originating-IP get set to 425.57.39.1? Was this a
openmoko.org error or was this inserted by the highly fuckible
wprt-4db600a3.pool.einsundeins.de ([77.182.0.163])?
community@lists.openmoko.org wrote:
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Can I use the GTA01B_v4 as a bluetooth gps receiver? And will it be easy to do.
I was going to wait for the GTA02 in October, but in the meantime I'm about to
buy a gps bluetooth receiver to use with maemo-mapper on my N770.
If I can use the GTA01_v4 as a gps receiver instead, I'd rather buy it
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Sure -- building your own case is a definite option. Modifying the
motherboard yourself isn't a practical option (I say that from the
perspective of somebody who has successfully soldered a couple of SMT
components by hand), but there are some unused connectors on there --
Frederic Kettelhoit wrote:
But there is a redesign of the board for the accelerometers, the wifi,
and the 3D Accleration. It would not be much more work to put a
connector under the top case. So if you want to play games, you just
take the top case and the back case, remove them, take the new
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can I use the GTA01B_v4 as a bluetooth gps receiver? And will it be easy to do.
I was going to wait for the GTA02 in October, but in the meantime I'm about to
buy a gps bluetooth receiver to use with maemo-mapper on my N770.
Yes.
It is easy to do at the moment if
Can I use the GTA01B_v4 as a bluetooth gps receiver? And will it be easy
to do.
I was going to wait for the GTA02 in October, but in the meantime I'm
about to buy a gps bluetooth receiver to use with maemo-mapper on my N770.
If I can use the GTA01_v4 as a gps receiver instead, I'd rather
I've just gone through the process of adding data @ T-Mobile it really
couldn't be simpler.
The one guideline you need to be aware of is that you CAN NOT get data GPRS
or EDGE on a pay as you go plan (T-Mobile to go). It has to be on a post
paid monthly account. To my knowledge and research,
Freetards. That's great. Now I want a shirt that says I'm a Freetard on
the back.
On 7/1/07, David Lefty Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't recall having seen a mention of this on the list previously, but
Fake Steve Jobs has taken notice of the FIC1973...
it can be scripted but it would be better (esp for multiplexing the gps) to
write a little serial server app.
here it is demonstrated with scripts (on a gumstix) but this ends up being a
little racey http://www.xmission.com/~bmidgley/embed/index.html#gps
A bluetooth GPS just creates a BT
Anyone had luck getting the dev platform working in openSUSE 10.2?
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On Sun, 2007-07-01 at 19:00 -0700, Tim Newsom wrote:
Supposing some company decided to provide alternate case designs or
add
on products for the neo1973, who do they need to talk to about
branding
/ authorization to sell them to the public?
OR
Is it possible that FIC or the OpenMoko
Also I think that distributors will get the devices cheaper, maybe at $400
or $350. So the chances to get the device for 450 or less on the free
market are high.
My guess is that the only difference between the phase 1 and 2 pricing
is the inclusion of the distributor's share in the phase 2
Will there be an official or unofficial OpenMoko presence at The Oreilly
Open Source Conference (OSCON) in Portland later this month?
Seems like the perfect place for it...
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As I wrote in that thread, I believe a static database is not the best
solution. The device could scan networks while idle and associate them with
GPS coordinates. A way to download existing known networks from a web
service could also be presented, if one wants to have an already built
catalog
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 15:05 -0700, Dirk Bergstrom wrote:
Will there be an official or unofficial OpenMoko presence at The Oreilly
Open Source Conference (OSCON) in Portland later this month?
Seems like the perfect place for it...
I'll be there...can definitely have a bof.
Jon
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On 7/3/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2007-07-01 at 19:00 -0700, Tim Newsom wrote:
Supposing some company decided to provide alternate case designs or
add
on products for the neo1973, who do they need to talk to about
branding
/ authorization to sell them to the
On 7/2/07, Jon Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 15:05 -0700, Dirk Bergstrom wrote:
Will there be an official or unofficial OpenMoko presence at The Oreilly
Open Source Conference (OSCON) in Portland later this month?
I'll be there...can definitely have a bof.
i'll be
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 17:28 -0700, Don Park wrote:
On 7/2/07, Jon Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 15:05 -0700, Dirk Bergstrom wrote:
Will there be an official or unofficial OpenMoko presence at The Oreilly
Open Source Conference (OSCON) in Portland later this
Hello,
On 7/2/07, Jon Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...The best for me would be thursday or friday..
OSCON ends on Friday(meaning=most likely NO Bof's). To sign up for a
BOF, fill out this form:
http://conferences.oreillynet.com/cs/os2007/create/e_sess?x-t=os2007_BoF.form
Spots are
Steve Bibayoff wrote:
Spots are already filling up fast:
http://conferences.oreillynet.com/pub/w/58/bof.html
so someone fill it out soon if they would like to see one.
I'm on it...
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On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 17:39, Robin Paulson wrote:
I have added a sub-section to the Neo1973 hardware section of the
wiki, concerning alternate cases. there are a few ideas as starters,
including one with a d-pad and a steampunk design. Anyone with any
other ideas/more info to flesh out what i've
Yay!
I was going to wait for GTA02, but the guaranteed price reduction for
GTA01B_v4 has convinced me to buy the Neo immediately. :)
(Btw, my birthday is in October -- I know what I want!)
I think this new ocean will bring a tsunami of change for the future of
mobile phones. Thank you Sean,
On 7/2/07, Tim Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Freetards. That's great. Now I want a shirt that says I'm a Freetard on
the back.
...and we want it for free (as in beer, ofcourse, though a Coke suits
me better...)
Christ van Willegen
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