Re: ATT is cruising for a bruising

2007-09-11 Thread Steve
Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:03:05 +0200, Raphaël Jacquot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem was that their three Iphones were racking up a bill for data charges using foreign phone charges. The Iphone regularly updates e-mail, even while it's off, so that all the

System developers ask for project

2007-09-11 Thread Vittoria Cozza
Hi, I'm Vittoria Cozza, a second year computer science PHD student in University of Bari italy. here we have a group of student (2 right now) intending to become openmoko System Developer http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/System_Developer. University website is

Re: System developers ask for project

2007-09-11 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski
Hello. I have an idea about program that reads GPS data and draws local path/map while you walk. It could be very useful while walking in unknown terrain, city or big building complex. When you would like return to starting point it could show a azimuth with an arrow. It also could show

Re: System developers ask for project

2007-09-11 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski
Hello. I have an idea about program that reads GPS data and draws local path/map while you walk. It could be very useful while walking in unknown terrain, city or big building complex. When you would like return to starting point it could show a azimuth with an arrow. It also could show

Re: System developers ask for project

2007-09-11 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski
Hello. I have an idea about program that reads GPS data and draws local path/map while you walk. It could be very useful while walking in unknown terrain, city or big building complex. When you would like return to starting point it could show a azimuth with an arrow. It also could show

Re: System developers ask for project

2007-09-11 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski
Hello. I have an idea about program that reads GPS data and draws local path/map while you walk. It could be very useful while walking in unknown terrain, city or big building complex. When you would like return to starting point it could show a azimuth with an arrow. It also could show

Re: System developers ask for project

2007-09-11 Thread Vittoria Cozza
Thanks, it could work. but... we are more interested in contribute in the improvement of openmoko framwork adding some lowlevel functionalities and not in an application level projects. Who knows what has more priority in opemoko to do list and can be done from a small group of students?

Re: Kernel Panic: [rt.internal.openmoko.org #3663]

2007-09-11 Thread Alessandro Iurlano
NO software media and NO Power Adaptor found. Please confirm if the list is complete. The software is changing heavily so there would have been no point in including it in the package. All the software you need have to be downloaded from the internet. There is no power adaptor. The phone

Re: webkit do_compile failed

2007-09-11 Thread Alessandro Iurlano
I'm obviously a few months behind other developers as I've only had my Neo1973 a few days, but why is it that we run into these compiling issues and simply deleting the files and rebuilding the single package will get us past the error? Is it that the package (in this case, the webkit package

Re: Neo Base/Advanced

2007-09-11 Thread Ian Stirling
pHilipp Zabel wrote: On 9/11/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, as I'm waiting impatiently for GTA02 to come out, I'm faced with the decision wether to get the Base or the Advanced version. My question is: What exactly are the things that can only be done with the

Re: System developers ask for project

2007-09-11 Thread Ian Stirling
Bartlomiej Zdanowski wrote: Hello. I have an idea about program that reads GPS data and draws local path/map while you walk. It could be very useful while walking in unknown terrain, city or big building complex. When you would like return to starting point it could show a azimuth with an

Re: Neo Base/Advanced

2007-09-11 Thread Shachar Shemesh
pHilipp Zabel wrote: work and JTAG, which you need if you have busted the bootloader (be it by hacking or it or entering nand erase on the console). Does the JTAG also support single-stepping (ICE)? Shachar ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: Kernel Panic: [rt.internal.openmoko.org #3663]

2007-09-11 Thread Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
Thank you list. I posted a message seeking clarification on the package contents for my Neo phone and the replies from Bartlomiej Zdanowski and Alessandro Lurlano have clarified that everythng is OK. Thank you. On 9/11/07, Alessandro Iurlano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NO software media and NO

hi, new comer ;)

2007-09-11 Thread wayne
hoho, i can write c \ c++ and python. any thing i can do for openmoko ? i'v just finished to make one mplayer front for moto a1200/e6. please tell me. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: hi, new comer ;)

2007-09-11 Thread David R. Newman
wayne wrote: hoho, i can write c \ c++ and python. any thing i can do for openmoko ? i'v just finished to make one mplayer front for moto a1200/e6. please tell me. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Media_Player is currently at the status May never be implemented. The current SVN code doesn't

GPS driver -- was: Re: Apple is going to beat all competitors

2007-09-11 Thread Joshua Layne
Joshua Layne wrote: Ian Stirling wrote: Jens Fursund wrote: On 9/9/07, *Giles Jones* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing wrong with the hardware, there's just no open source GPS driver yet. I´m confused: Does this mean that the GTA02 will include

Re: Fwd: OpenMoko 2007.2 on Palm TX

2007-09-11 Thread Florian Boor
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: ok...i want to tried this. so i have to change the MACHINE in local.conf and replace fic-gta01 by palmtx!? exactly... please let me know if you get it running :-) Greetings Florian -- The dream of yesterday Florian Boor is the hope of today

Re: hi, new comer ;)

2007-09-11 Thread Alessandro Iurlano
On 9/11/07, David R. Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wayne wrote: hoho, i can write c \ c++ and python. any thing i can do for openmoko ? i'v just finished to make one mplayer front for moto a1200/e6. please tell me. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Media_Player is currently at the status

The problem with touch screens

2007-09-11 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
http://blogs.s60.com/browser/2007/08/the_problem_with_touch_screens.html The point of the article is that touch screens lack the tactile feedback that's inherent to physical buttons. I wonder if it's possible to simulate some of that feedback using the vibrator built into Neo. -- Alexey

Re: The problem with touch screens

2007-09-11 Thread Simon
Some screen protectors could be made to have relief boundaries between all the buttons... so you just stick you keyboard relief on the screen, close your eyes and write an email! If not then, lets forget about tactile sensations, those that look for that can buy usb/bt keyboards! (like I'm going

Re: The problem with touch screens

2007-09-11 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
Alexey Feldgendler wrote: I wonder if it's possible to simulate some of that feedback using the vibrator built into Neo. and 20mn autonomy ? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: The problem with touch screens

2007-09-11 Thread Giles Jones
On 11 Sep 2007, at 17:27, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: http://blogs.s60.com/browser/2007/08/ the_problem_with_touch_screens.html The point of the article is that touch screens lack the tactile feedback that's inherent to physical buttons. I wonder if it's possible to simulate some of that

Re: The problem with touch screens

2007-09-11 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:02:47 +0200, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://blogs.s60.com/browser/2007/08/the_problem_with_touch_screens.html The point of the article is that touch screens lack the tactile feedback that's inherent to physical buttons. I wonder if it's possible to

Re: The problem with touch screens

2007-09-11 Thread Dylan McCall
The trouble withtactile feedback via buttons is that it arbitrarily limits us in the applications that can be built. Designing a powerful and intuitive piece of software comes down to how buttons are mapped, and it often becomes horribly complicated with button combos and the like. Software using

Re: The problem with touch screens

2007-09-11 Thread Giles Jones
On 11 Sep 2007, at 18:11, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: I once tried a mouse with tactile feedback (built-in vibrator). I could actually feel the buttons I hovered the cursor over as being embossed; it felt like moving the mouse over a non-flat relief rather than simply vibration. The

Re: Neo Base/Advanced

2007-09-11 Thread Joachim Steiger
Shachar Shemesh wrote: pHilipp Zabel wrote: work and JTAG, which you need if you have busted the bootloader (be it by hacking or it or entering nand erase on the console). Does the JTAG also support single-stepping (ICE)? jap. only makes sense in kernelspace / uboot due to the mmu, but

Charger for neo1973

2007-09-11 Thread Pranav Desai
Hello All, I found this charger mentioned on wired. http://www.inflightpower.com/ Do you think it can be used to charge the neo ? Thanks -- Pranav P.S. I found a mention on the community list that the phase0 phones shipped with a wall charger, is that true and if so then was it discontinued

Re: The problem with touch screens

2007-09-11 Thread Ben Burdette
Giles Jones wrote: On 11 Sep 2007, at 18:11, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: I once tried a mouse with tactile feedback (built-in vibrator). I could actually feel the buttons I hovered the cursor over as being embossed; it felt like moving the mouse over a non-flat relief rather than simply

Re: The problem with touch screens

2007-09-11 Thread Giles Jones
In the wii GUI the controller will vibrate briefly when the cursor moves into a clickable area, so the user knows they can now click the button. With a touchscreen though, when the user taps in the clickable area, the click has already happened. There's no need to alert the user that

Re: stylus alternative

2007-09-11 Thread Ortwin Regel
There is also http://www.comfortstylus.com/ which kind of works. It's especially well suited for FPS games on the DS, probably not the best thing for phone navigation, though. The problem with all the finger attachments is that your finger still pretty much obstructs the view instead of being

Advanced dev kit

2007-09-11 Thread poncenby
I've ordered the Neo Advanced GTA-01, which has not been delivered yet, and was wondering whether the development hardware/software which comes in this kit will be compatible/usable for development on the GTA-02 phone? I don't suppose there is a way of tracking shipments or a contact for

Re: Charger for neo1973

2007-09-11 Thread Steven **
On 9/11/07, Pranav Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I found this charger mentioned on wired. http://www.inflightpower.com/ Do you think it can be used to charge the neo ? I'm not sure if your goal is to actually use it in-flight, or just to charge from a battery. If it's the

Re: Advanced dev kit

2007-09-11 Thread Giles Jones
On 11 Sep 2007, at 21:01, poncenby wrote: I've ordered the Neo Advanced GTA-01, which has not been delivered yet, and was wondering whether the development hardware/software which comes in this kit will be compatible/usable for development on the GTA-02 phone? I don't suppose there is a

p2p/mesh cellphone network

2007-09-11 Thread Robin Paulson
didn't we discuss this a few weeks ago? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6987784.stm few details on how it works, the protocols underneath and so on, but ericsson has put money into it maybe it can be built into a later OM phone... ___ OpenMoko

Re: Charger for neo1973

2007-09-11 Thread Pranav Desai
On 9/11/07, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/11/07, Pranav Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I found this charger mentioned on wired. http://www.inflightpower.com/ Do you think it can be used to charge the neo ? I'm not sure if your goal is to actually use it

Re: Advanced dev kit

2007-09-11 Thread Joe Friedrichsen
On 9/11/07, poncenby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've ordered the Neo Advanced GTA-01, which has not been delivered yet, and was wondering whether the development hardware/software which comes in this kit will be compatible/usable for development on the GTA-02 phone? The JTAG connector will fit

Re: p2p/mesh cellphone network

2007-09-11 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/11/07, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: didn't we discuss this a few weeks ago? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6987784.stm I'm wondering what they had to do to the radio to make it possible, or if it is at all with GSM. Sounds like maybe they used something different. Of

Re: Message duplicates

2007-09-11 Thread Richard Bennett
Hi Harald, Could you please check whether spamassassin has frozen again? The duplicate messages seem to have started once more. Thanks, Richard. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: p2p/mesh cellphone network

2007-09-11 Thread Raphael Jacquot
Shawn Rutledge wrote: On 9/11/07, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: didn't we discuss this a few weeks ago? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6987784.stm I'm wondering what they had to do to the radio to make it possible, or if it is at all with GSM. Sounds like maybe they used

Re: Charger for neo1973

2007-09-11 Thread Raphael Jacquot
Steven ** wrote: I'm not sure if your goal is to actually use it in-flight, or just to charge from a battery. If it's the latter, see: http://www.instructables.com/id/EGBQJPLCB2EP287KTZ/ http://www.instructables.com/id/E1QBI60DAJEQZJHW8Y/

PC World - Lessons Learned From the iPhone Price Cuts

2007-09-11 Thread Ian Darwin
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,137046-c,iphone/article.html Subtitled What consumers and companies should have learned from the recent Apple iPhone price cuts and subsequent backlash. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list