1) Are there any working hacks for getting FM radio reception on the
neo 1973? Even the $35 (total for the unlocked phone that will work
with any network) Nokia phones have FM reception in india. This is a
must have option for the Neo to sell in India. Most phones use the
earplug cable assembly as
Silicon Labs SI4700 and SI4701 are entire FM tuners on a single
chip, and they are tiny. I have their USB FM Radio and I use it
every day on my PC, and I believe the same chip is in my Sony
Ericsson phone. This is the one that uses the earphone wire as
antenna, although it can be separate, as is
On pe, 2007-11-09 at 16:35 +0530, rakshat hooja wrote:
1) Are there any working hacks for getting FM radio reception on the
neo 1973? Even the $35 (total for the unlocked phone that will work
with any network) Nokia phones have FM reception in india. This is a
must have option for the Neo to
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 06:46:16 -0500
Doug Sutherland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Silicon Labs SI4700 and SI4701 are entire FM tuners on a single
chip, and they are tiny. I have their USB FM Radio and I use it
every day on my PC, and I believe the same chip is in my Sony
Ericsson phone. This is the
Hi,
I'm having problems with registering with a carrier here in Denmark.
The log:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ libgsmd-tool -m shell -vvv
libgsm-tool - (C) 2006 by Harald Welte
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
O
# # Power-On
EVENT: PIN request (type='SIM PIN') Please enter
On Nov 9, 2007 6:10 AM, Mike Hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
He is talking about receiver chips, like those used in
SonyEricsson/Nokia cellphones, to provide the phone owner with FM
radio reception. Not to transmit say, music, to a radio.
Or i also could have missed the final sentence in his
Dnia piątek, 9 listopada 2007, Bartlomiej Zdanowski [Zdanek] napisał:
As far as I know there's no USB host driver in OM kernel, so even if
external USB device is self powered or power connector is attached
there's no chance to connect anything to Neo.
USB Host driver is present from nearly
Hey Mikkel,
Which carrier are you trying to register with. Just curious since I'm
aming at buying a Neo GTA02 when it arrives, and thereby want to make
sure that it works in Denmark.
Best Regards,
Jens
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 13:56 +0100, Mikkel Meyer Andersen wrote:
Hi,
I'm having problems
Hello.
As far as I know there's no USB host driver in OM kernel, so even if
external USB device is self powered or power connector is attached
there's no chance to connect anything to Neo.
When will it be available? You could provide it with other two drivers -
mouse and keyboard, and that
Sorry to bring up the whole google phone thing again, but...
I read the arm-linux Mailing list. Yesterday, Brian Swetland (Linux
Kernel Lead, Android Project, Google) posted, announcing the public git
tree for the Qualcomm MSM7K.
This could just be the platform the android guys have been using
On 8 Nov 2007, at 21:22, Robin Paulson wrote:
...
i know it's got a gps and can e-mail/text us where it is, but that
will only work if someone doesn't re-flash it and has other caveats on
it working. ...
I'd guess that only 1% of the population knows what a Neo looks like,
or would even
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
1) I think Google IS developing their own phone after all
2) I think that phone will be based on the Qualcomm MSM7K
3) I think Android will be using Kastor as a rendering engine
4) If so, Android will look a lot like the Kastor demos on tat's
website. (e.g.
1) I think Google IS developing their own phone after all
2) I think that phone will be based on the Qualcomm MSM7K
3) I think Android will be using Kastor as a rendering engine
4) If so, Android will look a lot like the Kastor demos on tat's
website. (e.g.
On Friday 09 November 2007 15:00:19 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
development. However, why would they go to all the trouble of porting
Linux to a new SoC when there are many other already supported SoCs they
could have used to develop on? I think this could be evidence that
Google IS developing
Hi thomas,
thanx for investigating,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I've already mentioned, another interesting thing I noticed was one
of the Open Handset Alliance's members - The Astonishing Tribe
(http://www.tat.se).
But why joined TAT on the 5 november, the day of the press release?
isn't
He is talking about receiver chips, like those used in
SonyEricsson/Nokia cellphones, to provide the phone owner with FM
radio reception. Not to transmit say, music, to a radio.
Well I mentioned both, and they are separate chips.
There is plain FM, FM with RDS/RBDS, AM/FM
and also FM
But why joined TAT on the 5 november, the day of the press release?
isn't this a little bit late or just another reason to believe they use
TAT, cause they don't wanted to spoil the whole thing with TAT oh their
list even earlier?
Good question... I had assumed 5th November is just when the
On Nov 9, 2007 7:34 AM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With a device like the Neo the biggest issue with automated I'm
here messages is the risk of the battery running flat 7 the thief
being unable to acquire a suitable charger.
Stroller.
The way I see it, this isn't an issue if you
Dnia piątek, 9 listopada 2007, Attila Csipa napisał:
I wouldn't be surprised if Google made a prototype/reference phone, for
testing (just like Trolltech did with the Greenphone) and to eliminate
any hardware obstacles/delays that might be caused by other
manufacturers.
Trolltech did not
Dnia piątek, 9 listopada 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał:
announcing the public git tree for the Qualcomm MSM7K.
This could just be the platform the android guys have been using for
development. However, why would they go to all the trouble of porting
Linux to a new SoC when there are many
Doug Sutherland wrote:
I am planning to make some PCB boards with the SI4701 and
minimal parts on them in the future, will be sold on ebay
(I have surface mount reflow oven).
See the Silicon Labs parts here:
Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
Implementing an FM sender would however make the Neo hard to sell on
markets where personal FM transmitters are illegal (however weak the
signal is) such as Sweden. At least it was still illegal when I was
living there.
cheers ./daniel
ahm - we're talking
Hi John!
That was a very long, detailed and good answer. Exactly what I needed. The
fact that the battery time is over 7 hours rather than 3 (like most laptops)
gives me faith that it will be quite enough for me. Big thanks!
/Oliver
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On Friday 09 November 2007 17:14, Mike Hodson wrote:
On Nov 9, 2007 7:34 AM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With a device like the Neo the biggest issue with automated I'm
here messages is the risk of the battery running flat 7 the thief
being unable to acquire a suitable charger.
On Friday 09 November 2007 16:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) I think Google IS developing their own phone after all
2) I think that phone will be based on the Qualcomm MSM7K
3) I think Android will be using Kastor as a rendering engine
4) If so, Android will look a lot like the Kastor
On Nov 9, 2007 9:38 AM, AVee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which will only work when the thief is friendly enough to turn the phone on
with the same sim-card installed, otherwise, what number would you text to?
I'm guessing most GSM thiefs are smart enough to remove the SIM first.
You don't know
John Locke wrote:
Hello,
I was running Qtopia for 5 or 6 weeks, and under that, I was getting
about 5 hours of time tops, whether I used the phone or not. The battery
indicator has 5 bars, and after a good 4 hours, there would still be 3
bars left (60%, or so you might think). But by that
Doug Sutherland wrote:
Georg,
My original plan was to design a generic add-on board for
embedded single board computers that includes an audio
codec, FM tuner, and optional text-to-speech. I still have
that plan but may make several variants on this, I have lots
of interest in mobile audio
On Friday 09 November 2007 17:43:25 Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
Dnia piątek, 9 listopada 2007, Attila Csipa napisał:
I wouldn't be surprised if Google made a prototype/reference phone, for
testing (just like Trolltech did with the Greenphone) and to eliminate
any hardware obstacles/delays
I realize the 850mhz issue is complex and you can't give an answer
right away, but I'd like to know when we could expect one? I'm one of
the many North American's who needs the 850 band, and If I know it's
coming I'm going to start doing some software dev, if it's not I'll
start looking elsewhere.
Georg,
The amazing thing about these Silicon Labs parts is that they require
almost no external components. For example the SI470x FM tuners
require a crystal and regulator, that is all, they can use headphone
cable as antenna (as is done in most phones now), and they have
stereo analog output
On 9 Nov 2007, at 18:45, Mike Hodson wrote:
...
Now this is a great idea. Have it automatically go into stolen mode if
the sim changes. I honestly didn't think about that one.
Of course this begs the question* - what if they DON'T change the SIM
card?
Some suggestions were made last
Now this is a great idea. Have it automatically go into stolen mode if
the sim changes. I honestly didn't think about that one.
But this obviously can't become part of the base system; it's a bad idea
for many people. I (and many others I know) legitimately switch SIMs
several times a
Then I send a special SMS which switches the Neo to stolen mode :)
2007/11/9, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 9 Nov 2007, at 18:45, Mike Hodson wrote:
...
Now this is a great idea. Have it automatically go into stolen mode if
the sim changes. I honestly didn't think about that one.
Of
Doug Sutherland wrote:
Georg,
The amazing thing about these Silicon Labs parts is that they require
almost no external components. For example the SI470x FM tuners
require a crystal and regulator, that is all, they can use headphone
cable as antenna (as is done in most phones now), and they
On 11/9/07, Georg Michelitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
I'm interested in a FM transmitter in order to for example listen to my
music on my car's radio.
/snip
This could also enable some really cool speakerphone abilities, as long as
we can then filter the audio input to remove the echo
There is an interesting speaker phone codec made by cirrus logic
http://www.cirrus.com/en/products/pro/detail/P1006.html
They are in stock at digikey
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Now this is a great idea. Have it automatically go into stolen mode if
the sim changes. I honestly didn't think about that one.
Here's an idea.
Let's say that the phone keeps a complete history of it's movement in
space and time (or spacetime, if you like).
Let's say we set it to check it's
On Nov 9, 2007 1:24 PM, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But this obviously can't become part of the base system; it's a bad idea
for many people. I (and many others I know) legitimately switch SIMs
several times a year (when travelling to Europe), and don't need to be
worried about false
On Nov 9, 2007 3:36 PM, Tomi N/A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's an idea.
Let's say that the phone keeps a complete history of it's movement in
space and time (or spacetime, if you like).
...
When you're phone is stolen - and the above behavior is made
SIM-independent - you get regular tips
It seems bug labs don't have a GSM module in mind, but nevertheless,
their idea seems very interesting.
I'd like to hear other opinions...
Cheers,
Tomislav
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On Tuesday 06 November 2007 03:36, Jon wrote:
I'd suggest everyone find their country on GSM World:
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/index.shtml and check their
providers. Unfortunately some of the maps don't differentiate between 850
and 1900 (for example Rogers Wireless in Canada).
On Friday 09 November 2007 21:24, Ian Darwin wrote:
Now this is a great idea. Have it automatically go into stolen mode if
the sim changes. I honestly didn't think about that one.
But this obviously can't become part of the base system; it's a bad idea
for many people. I (and many others
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:24:25 -0500 Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Now this is a great idea. Have it automatically go into stolen mode if
the sim changes. I honestly didn't think about that one.
But this obviously can't become part of the base system; it's a bad idea
for many
Lorn,
I just flashed over the latest image you uploaded. Upon receiving a
call, the phone does not ring, I cannot hear the other person they
cannot hear me and the alarm clock doesn't ring. Odd thing though is
that when I place a call I can be heard and they can hear me. I'm also
curious
Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
Lorn,
I just flashed over the latest image you uploaded. Upon receiving a
call, the phone does not ring, I cannot hear the other person they
cannot hear me and the alarm clock doesn't ring. Odd thing though is
that when I place a call I can be heard and they
Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
Lorn,
I just flashed over the latest image you uploaded. Upon receiving a
call, the phone does not ring, I cannot hear the other person they
cannot hear me and the alarm clock doesn't ring. Odd thing though is
that when I place a
I have moved the wiki page for those interested in buying a second hand Neo
to-
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Interested_in_second_hand_neo
The page for users wanting to sell their GTA01 devices remains at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/US_850_band_users_wanting_to_sell_Neo
Regards,
Rakshat
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