Re: 2007.11 snapshot available

2007-12-05 Thread Joseph J. McCarthy
What if you could tilt the Neo to switch keyboards instead. Or, perhaps, instead of multi-tap you tilt and press 2 to get B instead of hold horizontal and tap 2 to get A. It seems that the accelerometers could be used to make the keyboard easier to use. Now that I am typing perhaps the

Re: Example of accelerometers utility

2007-12-05 Thread Joseph J. McCarthy
Not to cross-post in threads, but I was just throwing some ideas on using tilting to make keyboards easier in the snapshot thread. Anyone have any other ideas along this line? I would hate to have to carry a stylus when there is nowhere to put it... Joe Stroller wrote: On 4 Dec 2007, at

Re: dfu-util help

2007-12-05 Thread Joseph Reeves
dfu-util: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, statically linked, not stripped Thanks, I'll try the 32 bit version now! On 05/12/2007, Lucas Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joseph Reeves a écrit : Thanks! How can I see if it's 64 bit? I'm on a lowly 32 bit

Re: Compulab EM-X270 Wireless PDA Module

2007-12-05 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 05.12.2007 um 13:41 schrieb Gabriel Ambuehl: On Wednesday 05 December 2007 13:07:11 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: handling cost, credit card processing cost, etc. And finally some compensation for the time we spend doing this instead of other things. The largest single cost component is

Re: dfu-util help

2007-12-05 Thread Lucas Bonnet
Joseph Reeves a écrit : Thanks! How can I see if it's 64 bit? I'm on a lowly 32 bit machine here... $ file dfu-util dfu-util: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, statically linked, not stripped If you get 64-bit instead of 32-bit then you found the

Re: dfu-util help

2007-12-05 Thread Joseph Reeves
Thanks! How can I see if it's 64 bit? I'm on a lowly 32 bit machine here... Joseph On 05/12/2007, Lucas Bonnet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joseph Reeves a écrit : But the this is as good as I can get out of it: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/DFU$ sudo ./dfu-util -a kernel -R -D

Re: dfu-util help

2007-12-05 Thread Joseph Reeves
Well that all went great, running the Qtopia snapshot now - already made some calls, and that was after I wondered round the office for a bit trying to avoid working and got my Christmas holiday booked! Thanks all! On 05/12/2007, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dfu-util: ELF 64-bit LSB

Re: Kernel upgrade by ipkg

2007-12-05 Thread Werner Almesberger
Graeme Gregory wrote: There is unfortunately a bug in the kernel, a workaround for this was introduced with the November 2007 snapshot. It's this one: http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=567 - Werner ___ OpenMoko community

Kernel upgrade by ipkg

2007-12-05 Thread Graeme Gregory
This has been a long requested feature and its finally ready to be unleashed on the world. There is unfortunately a bug in the kernel, a workaround for this was introduced with the November 2007 snapshot. So before I release this capability I need to make sure everyone has the chance to upgrade

Re:A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a neo1973 and I wish I could connect it to my Laptop in order to access the internet ( I use Ubuntu 7.10 ). I followed this page on the wiki http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking but nothing... my neo won't connect to the internet! Everything seems ok but

A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread geniere90
Hi everyone! I have a neo1973 and I wish I could connect it to my Laptop in order to access the internet ( I use Ubuntu 7.10 ). I followed this page on the wiki http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking but nothing... my neo won't connect to the internet! Everything seems ok but the

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Jay Vaughan
My first problem when I tried setting up networking was that my home network is 192.168.0.x, and of course the NEO wants 192.168.0.202. So the first thing I did was to edit the NEO's /etc/network/interfaces to use IP 192.168.200.202, with gateway 192.168.200.200. I also set the DNS server to

Re: 2007.11 snapshot available

2007-12-05 Thread AVee
On Wednesday 05 December 2007 10:14, Thomas Wood wrote: Obviously T9 will not be implemented due to patent issues. I will ask him if the source is available anywhere. Do you (or anyone else) happen to have any background on this T9 patent issue? I seem to find a US Patent and some stories

OT:administrivia -- a request to reduce duplicate mails

2007-12-05 Thread Joshua Layne
Hi all, I am subscribed to several of the openmoko lists. When someone copies multiple lists on a message, I get all the copies (usually 3 for some reason). Worse, when anyone replies to the initial mail, they reply all and I get another full set of mails. I realize that there are valid reasons

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Jay Vaughan writes: My first problem when I tried setting up networking was that my home network is 192.168.0.x, and of course the NEO wants 192.168.0.202. So the first thing I did was to edit the NEO's /etc/network/interfaces to use IP 192.168.200.202, with gateway 192.168.200.200. I also

Re:A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
If your network was 192.168.1.x to start with, you shouldn't have had to modify that. What exactly isn't working? Are you able to ping the phone from your laptop? Does your laptop have a usb0 network device after plugging in the NEO? ___ OpenMoko

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Richard Reichenbacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think so... neo's dns is 192.168.200.200 Is it wrong? Are you sure you have your dns address in correctly? Whats in /etc/resolv.conf? DEXGATEMICRO il centralino VoIP

A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread geniere90
Nothing, same problem... :( I also tryied to change the configuration of my network: from 192.168.1.x to 192.168.0.x as yours. But nothing... I think the problem is in ubuntu... (what follows is for Debian Linux. If you've got another Linux, mapping this to your environment should

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Michael Shiloh
Richard Reichenbacher wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think so... neo's dns is 192.168.200.200 Is it wrong? Are you sure you have your dns address in correctly? Whats in /etc/resolv.conf? ___ Copy your host machines resolv.conf into the

Re: OT:administrivia -- a request to reduce duplicate mails

2007-12-05 Thread Lars Hallberg
Joshua Layne skrev: 'trivial' might be a tad strong here :) I, for example, have no idea how to do this with exim4 - I have no doubt it is possible though. I'll see what my brain extender (aka google) turns up. It is trivial for the software... that does not necessarily make it trivial to

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Ian Darwin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm able to ping the phone and my laptop, too. But I can't connect to the internet: ... We had two different responses: 1) Mickey concluded it must be resolv.conf; 2) Dr. Schaller concluded the notebook doesn't have IP forwarding turned on. How can we

Re: OT:administrivia -- a request to reduce duplicate mails

2007-12-05 Thread Joshua Layne
On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:57:54 +0100, Lars Hallberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joshua Layne skrev: Hi all, I am subscribed to several of the openmoko lists. When someone copies multiple lists on a message, I get all the copies (usually 3 for some reason). Worse, when anyone replies to the

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Richard Reichenbacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing, same problem... :( I also tryied to change the configuration of my network: from 192.168.1.x to 192.168.0.x as yours. But nothing... I think the problem is in ubuntu... (what follows is for Debian Linux. If you've got another Linux, mapping this to

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Jay Vaughan
Something I haven't investigated -- could the NEO do dhcp? yes - in fact i'm using this to avoid all the hassles with my network .. ipkg install udhcpd should give you what you need .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Mete Fikirlier
I had similar issue, and followed the steps described in http://openmoko.togaware.com/survivor/Network_Setup.html . I hope it helps. Mete - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2007 10:32:49 AM

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Michael Shiloh
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Ian Darwin writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm able to ping the phone and my laptop, too. But I can't connect to the internet: ... We had two different responses: 1) Mickey concluded it must be resolv.conf; 2) Dr. Schaller concluded the notebook doesn't have IP

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Lars Hallberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: Nothing, same problem... :( I also tryied to change the configuration of my network: from 192.168.1.x to 192.168.0.x as yours. But nothing... I think the problem is in ubuntu... I'm on ubunto to. In my /etc/network/interfaces i added: auto usb0 iface usb0

Re: OT:administrivia -- a request to reduce duplicate mails

2007-12-05 Thread Lars Hallberg
Joshua Layne skrev: Hi all, I am subscribed to several of the openmoko lists. When someone copies multiple lists on a message, I get all the copies (usually 3 for some reason). Worse, when anyone replies to the initial mail, they reply all and I get another full set of mails. I realize that

Re:A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think so... neo's dns is 192.168.200.200 Is it wrong? Almost certainly. That's the DNS address I used, because I've got a DNS server on my laptop. You should set NEO's DNS to the same DNS as your laptop goes to. Also -- make sure you've got ip forwarding and NAT

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Jeff Andros
It sounds like you just need to bridge the connections... check here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31632 On 12/5/07, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 05.12.2007 um 22:36 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm able to ping the phone and my laptop, too. But I

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm able to ping the phone and my laptop, too. But I can't connect to the internet: when I use ipkg update or the web browser, nothing... If you can ping, then the only thing missing is to adjust /etc/resolv.conf on the phone. -- - Michael Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: 2007.11 snapshot available

2007-12-05 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 5 grudnia 2007, Krzysztof Kajkowski napisał: T9 is not necessary important (i.e. I do not use english on my phone   so probably I would need to hack it to include polish T9 database). It   is useful in SMSes but not on writing URLs or console ;) T9 is useful not only in SMSes but

dfu-util help

2007-12-05 Thread Joseph Reeves
Hello all, Probably a the most noob question you're going to get for a while, but I'm a bit stuck... I wanted to flash the latest Qtopia build but have come unstuck at the first hurdle. Running Kubuntu 7.10 and downloaded dfu-util from here:

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Jonathon Suggs
I was wondering why people we using static routes. I have my own dhcp server, so if I want static routes, then I just put the configuration into the dhcp server (based on MAC address). It lets you only have to configure one thing and everyone get the same information. Whether or not a dhcp

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Ian Darwin writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm able to ping the phone and my laptop, too. But I can't connect to the internet: ... We had two different responses: 1) Mickey concluded it must be resolv.conf; 2) Dr. Schaller concluded the notebook doesn't have IP forwarding turned on.

Re: SMS is required + fix for battery drained isse

2007-12-05 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Dec 5, 2007 12:18 AM, flexd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Reichenbacher wrote: Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Dec 4, 2007 5:45 PM, Bernhard Kaindl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it is enough for the US, but if you define the average European mobile phone user a part of mass, then you

A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread geniere90
I think so... neo's dns is 192.168.200.200 Is it wrong? Are you sure you have your dns address in correctly? Whats in /etc/resolv.conf? DEXGATEMICRO il centralino VoIP multifunzione per l'azienda. Prova gratuita

Compulab EM-X270 Wireless PDA Module

2007-12-05 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi all, we all love choice and openness. Currently, there is only the GTA01 available for OpenMoko and the GTA02 still needs some time. This has raised the search for alternatives. Especially the Wireless PDA module EM-X270 from Compulabs was discussed positively - except for its missing

Re: Example of accelerometers utility

2007-12-05 Thread Stroller
On 4 Dec 2007, at 09:58, Al Johnson wrote: Monday 03 December 2007, Stroller wrote: On 2 Dec 2007, at 15:42, Steven Le Roux wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWc-j4Xs5_w I _love_ the ball-bearing inbox and the way that a message from your g/f might have a different timbre from one

Re: dfu-util help

2007-12-05 Thread Lucas Bonnet
Joseph Reeves a écrit : But the this is as good as I can get out of it: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/DFU$ sudo ./dfu-util -a kernel -R -D ./uImage-2.6.22.5-moko 11+svnr3238-r7-neo1973.bin ./dfu-util: ./dfu-util: cannot execute binary file If chmod +x does not work, check that it's not a 64 bits

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 05.12.2007 um 22:36 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm able to ping the phone and my laptop, too. But I can't connect to the internet: when I use ipkg update or the web browser, nothing... Looks like your laptop has no appropriate entry in its routing table to forward traffic from your

Re: dfu-util help

2007-12-05 Thread Joseph Reeves
Hi Andy, Thanks for your reply. Sorry, I should have said that I had chmod'd it to begin with. ls reveals: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/DFU$ ls -l dfu-util -rwxr-xr-x 1 joseph joseph 706018 2007-12-05 12:04 dfu-util Thanks again, Joseph On 05/12/2007, Andrew Loughran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: A problem with usb networking

2007-12-05 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Jay Vaughan writes: Something I haven't investigated -- could the NEO do dhcp? yes - in fact i'm using this to avoid all the hassles with my network .. ipkg install udhcpd should give you what you need .. Thanks -- I'll have to play with that. ___

Re: Compulab EM-X270 Wireless PDA Module

2007-12-05 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Wednesday 05 December 2007 13:07:11 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: handling cost, credit card processing cost, etc. And finally some compensation for the time we spend doing this instead of other things. The largest single cost component is the German VAT of 19%. If you are ordering from

Re: 2007.11 snapshot available

2007-12-05 Thread Krzysztof Kajkowski
Wiadomość napisana w dniu Dec 5, 2007, o godz 12:51 AM, przez Jon Phillips: Priorities for mass usage: 1. phone working 2. acceptable battery life (1 full day without charge) Am I wrong? For me it's also finger-usable keyboard - just like the one in Qtopia. With that you can operate

Building apps *on* the neo1973 ..

2007-12-05 Thread Jay Vaughan
Okay, today for a bit of early morning fun I set up a dev environment on my neo1973: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card/hak$ time gcc -I/usr/include -I/usr/ include/cairo -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/ lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/

Re: dfu-util help

2007-12-05 Thread Andrew Loughran
Joseph Reeves wrote: Hello all, Probably a the most noob question you're going to get for a while, but I'm a bit stuck... I wanted to flash the latest Qtopia build but have come unstuck at the first hurdle. Running Kubuntu 7.10 and downloaded dfu-util from here:

Re: 2007.11 snapshot available

2007-12-05 Thread Krzysztof Kajkowski
Wiadomość napisana w dniu Dec 5, 2007, o godz 10:14 AM, przez Thomas Wood: On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 09:20 +0100, Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: For me it's also finger-usable keyboard - just like the one in Qtopia. With that you can operate your phone without stylus (in most cases).

Re: 2007.11 snapshot available

2007-12-05 Thread Thomas Wood
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 09:20 +0100, Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: Wiadomość napisana w dniu Dec 5, 2007, o godz 12:51 AM, przez Jon Phillips: Priorities for mass usage: 1. phone working 2. acceptable battery life (1 full day without charge) Am I wrong? For me it's also

Re: SMS is required + fix for battery drained isse (was: 2007.11 snapshot available)

2007-12-05 Thread Thomas Wood
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 01:45 +0100, Bernhard Kaindl wrote: On Tue, 4 Dec 2007, Jon Phillips wrote: [...] So can we __please__ put the thought of text messaging (SMS) being optional for mass __usage__ (not resting, as it's now) to rest now? Of course it's not neccesary if you do not plan to