Jeremiah -
Do you know if this model has objects providing dimensions for the
pcb, screen, battery, other elements? It isn't a problem to wait
see, if the release will be occurring soon. I was just curious.
Why would you want dimensions for pcb, screen, battery, etc?
Regarding the
On Wednesday 16 January 2008, Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
Jeremiah -
Do you know if this model has objects providing dimensions for the
pcb, screen, battery, other elements? It isn't a problem to wait
see, if the release will be occurring soon. I was just curious.
Why would you want
Hi
Some minutes ago i installed qtopia on the sd-card of my neo. Now i have a
dual-boot mobile and that's really cool.
There is also a method in the wiki where qtopia and openmoko use the same
linux installation. But on both solutions you have to go to the uboot-menu to
chose the phone-desktop
Wolfgang Spraul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Regarding the format, the original is in Pro/Engineer Assembly
(.asm) and Part (.prt) files. That's probably hard to digest for any
FOSS CAD software.
BRLCAD[0] has preliminary support for this format.
[0]http://brlcad.org/
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Esben Stien is
Esben -
Interesting. I checked on BRLCAD's website
Converting Geometry Between BRL-CAD and other Formats, Page 17
http://ftp.brlcad.org/VolumeIV-Converting_Geometry.pdf
and it seems Pro/E import is actually quite solid. However you need a
seat of Pro/E to do the conversion.
Is releasing in
Well, I think that's pretty useless, because Qtopia uses FB instead of X11
und gdm is a X11-displaymanager.
Also it's not that easy, because all the distros you mentioned are
completely different in the whole softwarestack, so we're not talking about
switching between windowmanagers or so.
The
Hi,
Sorry for the short notice.
The monthly meeting of the Silicon Valley Homebrew Mobile Phone Club
(SVHMPC) is tonight, and the topic is open source Linux frameworks
for mobile devices.
Google will discuss Android, and I'll discuss OpenMoko.
The meeting is free and is held at The Tech
By the way, the wiki mentioned below is at
http://hbmobile.org/wiki/index.php?title=HOWTO_Pages
The website is a useful resource in general, and OpenMoko is mentioned
there too.
Michael
Michael Shiloh wrote:
Hi,
Sorry for the short notice.
The monthly meeting of the Silicon Valley
I am unable to attend this meeting due to geography, but if anyone is in
attendance I would be interested to hear the Google people's response to why
they felt the need to start a competitive project rather than join the OpenMoko
team.
Michael, as an official in the OpenMoko community, I
Good question, Jeffrey, and you suggest a question that I'd like to ask
you, the community:
Why do you chose to develop on OpenMoko, rather than on Android? Or do
you do both?
(Beside the lack of Android hardware)
Michael
Jeffrey Thomas wrote:
I am unable to attend this meeting due to
The choice for Android to let programmers develop only using java
would let me develop for Openmoko.
I don't have a Neo yet, though.
Kind regards,
Hans Bakker
2008/1/16, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Good question, Jeffrey, and you suggest a question that I'd like to ask
you, the
If I only had the time to develop anything... studying computersince I
almost had to quit programming :( and the rest I do is not relevant to
anything. The only cause that I listen to this list is that I really
like the Idea behind openMoko and I really enjoy the news about it and
to read
Hi,
I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney).
I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up.
I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the following:
Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to
kernel
Barry Steele wrote:
Hi,
I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney).
I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up.
I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the following:
Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found. Try passing init=
Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry!
All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the latest
from
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/deploy/glibc/images/neo1973/
Good luck and let us know how it goes,
Michael
Barry Steele wrote:
Hi,
I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm
Thanks Michael,
I will let you know how we get on.
Looks like a learning opportunity.
Love the look of the machine btw.
Stay well,
Barry
Michael Shiloh wrote:
Welcome to OpenMoko, Barry!
All you need to do is flash a new kernel and file system. Get the
latest from
Thanks Lorn,
Will let you know how I get on.
Barry
Lorn Potter wrote:
Barry Steele wrote:
Hi,
I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney).
I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up.
I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the
0n Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 08:55:53AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote:
The neo does not come with a root filesystem, so you'll have to flash one.
For me, Qtopia images from qtopia.net work great :)
Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me.
Why would I use Qtopia
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Michael Shiloh wrote:
Good question, Jeffrey, and you suggest a question that I'd like to ask
you, the community:
Why do you chose to develop on OpenMoko, rather than on Android? Or do
you do both?
(Beside the lack of Android hardware)
Michael
- OpenMoko is not only software, it's
Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
0n Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 08:55:53AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote:
The neo does not come with a root filesystem, so you'll have to flash one.
For me, Qtopia images from qtopia.net work great :)
Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me.
On 16/01/2008, Wilkinson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me.
Why would I use Qtopia images as opposed to OpenMoko images ?
I haven't flashed an openmoko image in a while so I'm not sure how
easy it is to get it usable as a phone
Barry Steele writes:
I am looking on the Openmoko site, but I would really appreciate any advice.
Take a look at the instructions at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_openmoko
(I noticed several people told you to flash it, but I didn't notice
anybody telling you how!)
I prefer to using Qtopia, but No Voice when using VoIP via USB connnection
or BT connection.
Lorn told me he will release a fixed version soon. I am looking forward to
it.
George
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Subject: COMMUNITY DIGEST, VOL 62, ISSUE 11
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
andy selby wrote:
On 16/01/2008, Wilkinson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me.
Why would I use Qtopia images as opposed to OpenMoko images ?
I haven't flashed an openmoko image in a while so I'm not sure how
easy it is to get
Lorn reminds me that there is another option in the open source Linux
frameworks for mobile devices space. (I think SVHMPC wanted to include
Trolltech as well. Not sure what happened.) (And of course there are
other options besides these three.)
So the questions remain: What features make you
Sorry to respond to an old thread, but just thought I would add my
observations...
Lorn Potter wrote:
Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
From what I can tell the noise comes and goes. When I'm in a good
signal
area I really don't hear it but when I'm in a bad signal area it's very
loud. I asked
I don't think ProE by itself is suitable, especially since you need a
copy of ProE even to import it to BRLCAD. I myself would suggest
Wavefront (.obj), ASCII DXF (.dxf), or STL (.stl) file. All are
standard formats should be in ProE and any other 3D editor.
Instructions for converting
Jeremiah -
thanks for the information, that is indeed very helpful.
Your list includes DXF, that was the preference before.
I am concerned that the export process will corrupt the file and we
release a file that will be painful to actually use.
From the formats you listed (Wavefront, DXF,
There are converters from .stl and .dxf files to G-code. A web search
will bring up a few. I couldn't recommend any because I haven't tried them.
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On Jan 14, 2008 8:32 PM, Jeremiah Flerchinger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you generate CAM paths with Blender?
For me the close tie in with the hardware is what interests me in the
project. It is not just software. You have access to the accelerometers
data, gps data, wifi, and all the open hardware. I feel that will lead to
the best possible solution for the phone. It is the software working
together
For one, if I understand correctly, android is all java...no thanks.
With the whole openmoko build your app package fast tutorial (dev
kit), certainly makes it more appealing.
Brandon Kruse (bkruse)
On Jan 16, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL
I see OpenMoko as lower level than Android. Users can give feedback
into the very core of the hardware software. I expect to someday see
Android applications integrated into OpenMoko. Android appears to be
just a virtual machine sandbox that sits on top of a Linux core. I
don't see most
Yes that is a perfect question to ask.
Also will there be any video avaliable? I would be very interested to see
this event.
On Jan 16, 2008 8:48 PM, Jeremiah Flerchinger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I see OpenMoko as lower level than Android. Users can give feedback
into the very core of the
Lorn Potter writes:
andy selby wrote:
u, better programming API? ;)
No, openmoko uses GTK.
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Hi Folks,
I've flashed the rootfs and a new kernel.
So then I got all excited and inserted my SIM into it and powered up.
Turns out I should have read some more. My current phone (Nokia N80 -
can I run openmoko on that?), is a 3G phone and it seems that the neo
doesn't like it.
I then
Wolfgang Spraul wrote:
Jeremiah -
thanks for the information, that is indeed very helpful.
Your list includes DXF, that was the preference before.
I am concerned that the export process will corrupt the file and we
release a file that will be painful to actually use.
From the formats you
To the best of my knowledge, Telstra's 3G network (Australia) runs on
850MHz, which isn't supported at the moment. There was a discussion about
the support of this frequency not too long back.
Tim
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry
On Jan 17, 2008 1:45 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* battery life of ~ 5hours
This is endemic to the hardware.
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Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech
I thought we cleared out that this was not a hardware problem? Or maybe not
a hardware
Hi Michael,
THis is a very interesting site. It is *very* disappointing that it has
been so well hidden from me as a wiki user - ..
YOu will see at
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories
that the latest from
* Official downloads
* Recent/latest builds
is 21 Nov and 1 Dec.
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