Thanks a lot.
So this does the trick:
echo 1
/sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on
echo 0
/sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-bt.0/reset
hciconfig
2008/5/14 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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Probably http://quickstart.openmoko.com/ :-)
2008/5/15 Wilkinson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
0n Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:53:13PM +0200, David Samblas Martinez wrote:
Since I was a young wannabe I like to read manuals, I allways remember
my first full specification readding at 13 years
Hi Alex,
if I understand you question (my english has margin to
be improved ;) ) the manual is at
http://quickstart.openmoko.org not completed yet but
interesting reading
Regards
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Samblas
Greetings all,
I wonder if it would be useful for devel purposes to have the OM
sourcetree imported into LXR (http://lxr.linux.no/) so folks can have an
quick method to access code via HTTP, which I have personally found to
be much quicker than trying to large trees of C, espically better than
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Greetings all,
|
| I wonder if it would be useful for devel purposes to have the OM
| sourcetree imported into LXR (http://lxr.linux.no/) so folks can have an
| quick method to access code via HTTP, which
Hi again folks,
Other screenshot.. :-)
http://linux-iscsi.org/index.php/Image:ISCSI-WiFI-FBdev-Landscape.png
Many thanks to the very gracious folks for helping me wrt mplayer (and
other general questions) in #openmoko on irc.freenode.net. If you are
within reach of an IRC client, and are ready
Sorry me if this has been said in other post, but if
gtk is not the default graphical library what
library gonna be ETK the official one? Just to
document me for future apps(ideas) in mind
--- Mo Abrahams [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
I was wondering about that too. Personally I would
rather
Hm, this is all new to me. Has anyone tried grabbing the qtopia keyboard
and using it with openmoko? If the libraries are all there, it shouldn't be
a problem right?
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 10:05 AM, David Samblas Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Sorry me if this has been said in other post,
I am not a developer, but at some point I WILL own a Freerunner.
Is it too much to hope that we'll have access to something similar to how
Ubuntu installations are upgraded and updated with fixes?
My guess is that sort of system is not in the DNA of the core
OpenMoko team. That's not a dis, it
Ron K. Jeffries schrieb:
Will we have some package system a la .deb or .rpm models?
As a startingpoint to read through the wiki I recomend something like
that: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Ipkg
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There is a package manager already: ipkg. I don't know if it
auto-updates. But it works perfectly fine for installing third-party
apps. I built an app, packaged it, and loaded it onto my virtual Neo
(under qemu) easily with the developer's framework.
-Steven
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:22 AM,
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
I was figuring something like that since long time... I hoped to
play with Neverball and accelerometers, but unfortunately we won't
have 3d soon :/.
Perhaps it is easier to port enigma. That is a very nice game too
I am pretty certain there is no chance of an entirely new toolkit being
developed for openmoko as a replacement for existing toolkits, it would
defeat the purpose a little bit, and if a new toolkit was to be
developed just for this, it would not be proprietary. Openmoko is
opensource.
On Thu,
Edward Falk wrote:
I really liked using GTK to develop -- it meant I could write my code on
a workstation with the intent of porting it to Moko later, and also with
the possibility of writing a workstation version of the same app.
So what are supposed to program in now? Is GTK actually going
I think gtk should definitely be part of the platform. As far as I know the
Java Swing hooks are for gtk. Since its shipping with Java it should be
able to use the gtk, right?
Plus as far as I can tell the ruby and python hooks for gtk are slightly
cleaner and easier than working with qt. So
On 5/15/08, Lasse Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2008 09:22:51 -0700
Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it too much to hope that we'll have access to something similar to
how Ubuntu installations are upgraded and updated with fixes?
There is a package manager like
All,
I've got my sort-of, kind-of working rotary dialer (with source) here:
http://www.cibomahto.com/?p=192
It's pretty ugly and the physics are a little buggy, but it's a start. I will
set it up on projects.openmoko.org when I get a chance.
I haven't really done my due diligence in
On 5/15/08, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
People that want to use Qt prob. prefer Qtopia over OM, so I think GTK is
the only correct thing.
Just a comment on what I wrote:
I think people should use what they like, but that if anything should be
official, it should be GTK+.
HA, you found it.
We will start to make it more public shortly. One issue is the specs we
wrote a while back have been overtaken by design improvisation. For example,
with diversity I wrote the spec back on October and I'll bet that the final
design is a VAST improvement on the spec. In a closed
Nice work so far.
Wait till you see the mail application, where you have to drag an envelope
cutter over each message to be able to read it…
That made me laugh!
Matt
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All,
I've got my sort-of, kind-of working rotary dialer (with
Michael Shiloh wrote:
Have we made the decision then to officially move away from GTK? This
was asked on the community list awhile ago, and IIRC there has been no
official answer.
Michael
Sorry for coming in the middle of the thread like that. Just wanted to
point something out.
Moving
On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 09:55 -0700, Edward Falk wrote:
I really liked using GTK to develop -- it meant I could write my code on
a workstation with the intent of porting it to Moko later, and also with
the possibility of writing a workstation version of the same app.
So what are supposed to
Thought this might be of some interest to the community. I contacted the
guys over at MarkMail, a search engine for mailing list archives and they
kindly loaded the OpenMoko lists. They have a slick web interface for
browsing threads and some very nice advanced search functionality. Here's
the
It reminded me of the mood music in Quake III. :-)
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Steven **
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is that noise in the background? Do you do your programming in a
haunted house? It's freakin me out...
-Steven
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I love the rotary dialer
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Steven **
[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
What is that noise in the background? Do you do your programming in a
haunted house? It's freakin me out...
-Steven
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ron K. Jeffries wrote:
As an Ubuntu *user* every now and then I get an alert that
upgrades are available.
Likewise with other major distros like Fedora -- you get an alert that
upgrades are available when you login, or come back from an idle state
overnight (nightly cron job I imagine).
In
Hey Guys,
Just want to keep the community updated.
I was one of the few developers who have received a freerunner (gta02) in
the mail a couple days back.
Since then I have been updating all my latest packages (http://bkruse.com,
and the mokoiax project page), will check in my code tonight.
The
As a future user, I'm glad to hear about progress in this area. It might get
me to actually set up an Asterisk server. :) Can we really get the
datastream small enough for GPRS?
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On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Brandon Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The goal of this project is to seamlessly tie into the openmoko dialer
application as a 'gateway', so that you could chose to dial out over GSM or
dial out over IAX2 (wifi, possibly GPRS).
If you would like to help in the
Thanks everyone :-).
I'm pretty sure the 'noise' is Sigur Rós. It was getting pretty late...
Matt
What is that noise in the background? Do you do your programming in a
haunted house? It's freakin me out...
-Steven
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All,
I've
Hello,
This could be useful for contributors to the OpenMoko project,
especially for people who wish to learn more about the kernel and about
embedded specific topics...
At Free Electrons, we decided to offer a free seat in our upcoming
embedded Linux training session (June 23-27, French
Thanks Brandon, we appreciate your contributions.
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Subject: IAX2/Asterisk + Openmoko FreeRunner
Hey Guys,
Just want
2008/5/15 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 5/15/08, Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think gtk should definitely be part of the platform. As far as I know the
Java Swing hooks are for gtk. Since its shipping with Java it should be
able to use the gtk, right?
Plus as
On Wednesday 14 May 2008 07:14, Ron K. Jeffries wrote:
Dash GPS personal nav device (uses OpenMoko) opens API
It's sorta funny, but nobody here says a word about Dash,
the Freerunner's red-haired step-sister device, OEM'd
from FIC as I understand things.
One of the reasons might be:
Hi Brandon,
I'm an end-user for the most part.
Do you think you can get the freerunner to emulate a common ip phone?
I'm imagining using it with TalkSwitch or any general ip based system.
Thanks
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Brandon Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Guys,
Just want to keep
On Tuesday 13 May 2008 18:34, Mo Abrahams wrote:
Although people will have to start setting their final alarm for ten
minutes earlier than they really need to get up, to give them time to
solve the really hard puzzle without making themselves late anyway.
How sensitive is GPS? An alarm that
Very nice. Can you pop this onto the wiki?
Thanks,
Michael
Andrew Bruno wrote:
Thought this might be of some interest to the community. I contacted the
guys over at MarkMail, a search engine for mailing list archives and they
kindly loaded the OpenMoko lists. They have a slick web interface
Am Donnerstag, 15. Mai 2008 schrieb Andrew Bruno:
Thought this might be of some interest to the community. I contacted the
guys over at MarkMail, a search engine for mailing list archives and they
kindly loaded the OpenMoko lists. They have a slick web interface for
browsing threads and some
Hi Brandon,
Thanks for the update. This might be the excuse I'm looking for to set
up Asterisk at home.
Although I tested your phone before I sent it to you. Unless I made a
mistake, it worked then. What concerns me is that I do have one other
phone that doesn't seem to take sound in via
Wow. That's very generous. I should expect someone will be able to take
advantage of this. I know I've seen a couple of community members with
addresses in Nice.
Thanks for your support of Openmoko!
Michael
Michael Opdenacker wrote:
Hello,
This could be useful for contributors to the
On Thu, 15 May 2008 13:58:40 -0700
ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the case of the Freerunner though, if updates are available, we
should give the user the option of upgrading everything
automagically, without ever prompting them, or letting them manually
update.
We should disable
On 15 May 2008, at 19:37, Ron K. Jeffries wrote:
...
As an Ubuntu *user* every now and then I get an alert that
upgrades are available. If I say yes it automagically fires up
a package manager. I enter the my root password,
and a few minutes later it's a done deal. Smooth, easy...
for a major
Seems that there is already a Moko-Manager project
http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/openmokomanager/
I was unable to run it yet but it got screen shoots
ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Ron K. Jeffries wrote:
As an Ubuntu *user* every now and then I get an alert that
upgrades
Found what?!??!
Why I try following Marco's link here I just get a big directory
listing, and it's not at all obvious what video he is referring to.
Stroller.
On 15 May 2008, at 18:58, steve wrote:
HA, you found it.
...
Do you mean something like this [1] (flash player required)?
I would have to guess that he is referring to the video that requires
flash: freerunner1.4.swf
It looks REALLY good.
Stroller wrote:
Found what?!??!
Why I try following Marco's link here I just get a big directory
listing, and it's not at all obvious what video he is referring to.
On Thu, 2008-05-15 at 23:48 +0100, George Brooke wrote:
Also maybe doing major updates while on battery should be disabled
(certainly while battery is low) just to avoid any problems (bricked
phone)
How about it downloads the updates whenever wifi is available (battery
or not), and then (if
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Great work so far, keep on.
Greetings Bastian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
| All,
|
| I've got my sort-of, kind-of working rotary dialer (with source) here:
| http://www.cibomahto.com/?p=192
|
| It's pretty ugly and the physics are a little buggy,
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That's very interresting. The site sais:
Dash includes maps for the United States (Continental US, Hawaii and
Alaska) only. It will not work in Canada, Mexico, Europe or any location
outside the United States.
Since when are Canada, Mexico and
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
as such the software update has both qtopia on it as well as enlightenment as
the wm - yes, some apps use etk too. native look really doesn't exist. there
is no one homogeneous toolkit. qt has no changes made to its look and feel
currently. gtk does ship
2008/5/16 Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
That's very interresting. The site sais:
Dash includes maps for the United States (Continental US, Hawaii and
Alaska) only. It will not work in Canada, Mexico, Europe or any location
outside the United States.
Since when are Canada, Mexico and Europe
steve wrote:
HA, you found it.
Ehehe... I knew :P!
I've seen that a couple of weeks ago, but I thought it was just a proof
of concept...
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Andrew Bruno wrote
Thought this might be of some interest to the community. I contacted the
guys over at MarkMail, a search engine for mailing list archives and they
kindly loaded the OpenMoko lists. They have a slick web interface for
browsing threads and some very nice advanced search
Mo Abrahams wrote:
How about it downloads the updates whenever wifi is available (battery
or not), and then (if set to update automatically) updates once plugged
in to charge, and if set to manual requires battery power to be above a
certain percentage.
I'd say that if GSM downloads are going
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I think the user should decide, wheter the update should be done at once
or later. Of cource an advise of batterystate should be done.
Greetings Bastian
ian douglas schrieb:
| Mo Abrahams wrote:
| How about it downloads the updates whenever wifi
Yes,
The iaxclient library I am implementing it in supports very very low
bandwidth protocols.
I have made a call of GPRS before, the only thing is the latency, but it's
somewhat useable still.
I have worked on the GUI for Digium, so go here and install asterisk + the
asteriskGUI (AsteriskNOW
Great!
Basically, when the source can be built into an ipkg pretty easily.
I want someone to test the testcall application I ported to see about
audio quality, controls, etc.
-bk
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Brandon
Encouragement is always helpful :)
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 4:48 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Brandon, we appreciate your contributions.
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On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Vinc Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Brandon,
I'm an end-user for the most part.
Do you think you can get the freerunner to emulate a common ip phone?
I'm imagining using it with TalkSwitch or any general ip based system.
Thanks
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at
I will do Michael.
That could have been the problem with my 1973 prototype, so thank you for
keeping me updated.
I am hoping to have the packages rebuilt by Friday and start the overall
integration, at least giving
the end user a simple console application to start testing :)
I passed a call
Thanks Brian, That sounds very cool. I was wondering how that would
work. I'm very excited to see how it all works out.
V
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Brandon Kruse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Vinc Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Brandon,
I'm an end-user
On Thu, 15 May 2008 19:56:41 +0200 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
On 5/15/08, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
People that want to use Qt prob. prefer Qtopia over OM, so I think GTK is
the only correct thing.
Just a comment on what I wrote:
I
On Thu, 15 May 2008 09:55:40 -0700 Edward Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
I really liked using GTK to develop -- it meant I could write my code on
a workstation with the intent of porting it to Moko later, and also with
the possibility of writing a workstation version of the same app.
So
On Fri, 16 May 2008 01:44:59 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
babbled:
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
as such the software update has both qtopia on it as well as enlightenment
as the wm - yes, some apps use etk too. native look really doesn't exist.
there is no
On Thu, 15 May 2008 20:58:48 +0300 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
Michael Shiloh wrote:
Have we made the decision then to officially move away from GTK? This
was asked on the community list awhile ago, and IIRC there has been no
official answer.
Michael
Sorry for coming
On Thu, 15 May 2008 13:28:15 -0400 Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
I think gtk should definitely be part of the platform. As far as I know the
Java Swing hooks are for gtk. Since its shipping with Java it should be
able to use the gtk, right?
Plus as far as I can tell the ruby and
On Thu, 15 May 2008 17:05:23 +0200 (CEST) David Samblas Martinez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled:
Sorry me if this has been said in other post, but if
gtk is not the default graphical library what
library gonna be ETK the official one? Just to
document me for future apps(ideas) in mind
please
Could it be possible to make tones with Make your own Mein Fraulein
station kit to use for encryption?
http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Crane, Matthew wrote:
Not
Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone knows how much the bonus pouch/headsets being offered
with the bulk orders would cost if purchased separately?
The Sydney group are looking into the (huge) customs costs, and it looks like
it might actually work out cheaper if we ditch the bulk order and just
If it's included in the bulk order, do you *need* to declare an extra value?
Chris Hogan wrote:
Just wondering if anyone knows how much the bonus pouch/headsets being offered
with the bulk orders would cost if purchased separately?
The Sydney group are looking into the (huge) customs costs
It's not so much the declaration.. It's more the fact that the whole
shipment will be over a certain value (I think $1000?)..
Here is oz if it's above a certain value you have to pay GST (extra
10%), plus I think a customs duty as well... which just sucks big time..
To answer Chris's
That's something I thought some time ago,
but it was not possible 'couse there are
too many possible hardware combinations.
But we don't have that on the Freerunner.
It would be nice to add to the description
of every package, app or update the time it
take to install it. I mean, we can
Steve has already mentioned on the list that they don't intend to sell
pouches or headsets as individual items, and that they're only available
as part of a bulk order -- included at no extra cost as part of the bulk
order, which to me means no extra value.
-id
Neil Davey wrote:
It's not so
Hi all,
Yeah, with or without extras the customs cost will be the same... and it works
out (I think) at about $425 per phone - higher than the cost of an individual
order (which falls below the $1000 threshold and so doesn't attract customs
charges).
So the only 'savings' we're getting are
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2008 20:58:48 +0300 Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
babbled:
I will do my best to show you more respect than you have obviously shown
me. No promises.
indeed. but most of the world does use languages that for display purposes are
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True - I hadn't yet read Ian's reply when I wrote that :-).
On Fri, 16 May 2008 03:19:59 pm Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
0n Fri, May 16, 2008 at 03:17:28PM +1000, Chris Hogan wrote:
So the only 'savings' we're getting are the extras packed in with the
bulk orders. If they're only worth
as such the software update has both qtopia on it as well as enlightenment as
the wm - yes, some apps use etk too. native look really doesn't exist.
there
is no one homogeneous toolkit. qt has no changes made to its look and feel
currently. gtk does ship on the device. choose the toolkit
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