Re: help me

2009-06-24 Thread qu kai
Thank you very much! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: your mail

2009-06-24 Thread Michele Brocco
I think that you could also use nabble to have a bit of forum experience if you like. http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)

2009-06-24 Thread mobi phil
Hey!! Is this kind of phrase i am not interested in c++. driving the linux phone development? I can never understand how is it possible to have such a huge gap on the scale between C programmers and C++ programmers? Why are C++ programmers dying out? Is it because some C programmers never managed

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread pike
Hi is it me or is xrandr or xglamo a bit confused ? I do export DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -q 480x64050.0* 640x48025.0 240x32050.0 320x24050.0 but it doesnt actually seem to support all that on my neo. xrandr -o left that works (and selects the second option)

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread Edder
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:43 PM, pike pike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: PS - I installed opendoom - it has the same problem, its trying to rotate the screen into 320x240, but the screen goes yellow most of the time.. which is why I was trying to look into this. I noticed the same problem with

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
pike pike-openm...@kw.nl writes: after switching a few times, x crashes. restarting xserver-nodm twice repairs it. what am i doing wrong ? You are not reading the bug reports :-) A simple search for glamo at e.g. http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/cgi-bin/openmoko-bugs.py?q=glamo finds #2263

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 24 June 2009, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: pike pike-openm...@kw.nl writes: after switching a few times, x crashes. restarting xserver-nodm twice repairs it. what am i doing wrong ? You are not reading the bug reports :-) A simple search for glamo at e.g.

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk writes: Om2009 is specified in the subject, and AFAIK this is still using Xglamo, so this bug doesn't seem to be relevant. The Xorg driver was created from the Xglamo source. Also, the bug is in kernel so it should apply to both.

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread pike
Hi what am i doing wrong ? You are not reading the bug reports :-) you're so right. did now, and its tracced here. http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2162 fwiw, this bug is in om2009 testing release5, cleanly flashed. and with some fiddling like # export DISPLAY=:0 # xrandr -s 320x240 -o

Re: font size in other window managers

2009-06-24 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/23 Nikita V. Youshchenko yo...@debian.org Hi, I'm playing with other window managers in Om2009, like matchbox and icewm. All the apps that I run use insanely small fonts and buttons. Same as when you run them in pure X. Does anyone have an idea how to change this behaviour?

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Michal Brzozowski wrote: Now I have Serenity again, the illume keyboard is turned off again (yay), the battery app shows the state wrong (!) Ive not tried with paroli, but when I compile e17 from svn and I upgrade the version I've in my Om2008 partition I've to go in Illume-settings - Advanced

Re: font size in other window managers

2009-06-24 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fmwrote: I find that the problem persists in Paroli. The menu fonts are normal, but when typing an sms the font is really small. Where does Paroli take the font sizes from? It is created as a gui.elementary.Entry, in

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote: Michal Brzozowski wrote: Now I have Serenity again, the illume keyboard is turned off again (yay), the battery app shows the state wrong (!) Ive not tried with paroli, but when I compile e17 from svn and I

Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)

2009-06-24 Thread David Ford
do you understand the weight involved with using c++? without very very careful management, c++ is rather hefty for embedded devices. granted, having 128M to work in is indeed far more tenable than smaller devices but it's still onerous. C is much more lightweight and very functional. any

Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)

2009-06-24 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/24 David Ford da...@blue-labs.org do you understand the weight involved with using c++? without very very careful management, c++ is rather hefty for embedded devices. granted, having 128M to work in is indeed far more tenable than smaller devices but it's still onerous. C is much

Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)

2009-06-24 Thread David Ford
that is one typical aspect. Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/6/24 David Ford da...@blue-labs.org mailto:da...@blue-labs.org do you understand the weight involved with using c++? without very very careful management, c++ is rather hefty for embedded devices. granted,

Re: linphone 3.1.0

2009-06-24 Thread MicVM
Al Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 25 March 2009, Paul Fertser wrote: Problems: * I haven't got it to do sound yet - it seems unhappy with the alsa device capabilities. I don't know if this is a configuration issue or a fundamental problem. I guess you face the same issue with borked

strange df behaviour

2009-06-24 Thread ivvmm
Hello list, found strange df behaviour. I'm using my micro sd which came with FR only for openstreetmaps. As a result it is filled with great amount of them. The filesystem on it is ext3. The df program from virtualbox reports it is filled 84%. But one cannot write there, because no space is

Re: strange df behaviour

2009-06-24 Thread Marcel
Am Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2009 22:01:39 schrieb ivvmm: Hello list, found strange df behaviour. I'm using my micro sd which came with FR only for openstreetmaps. As a result it is filled with great amount of them. The filesystem on it is ext3. The df program from virtualbox reports it is filled

Re: strange df behaviour

2009-06-24 Thread Sven Klomp
The filesystem on it is ext3. The df program from virtualbox reports it is filled 84%. But one cannot write there, because no space is available. Outputs: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/root 252544142744

Re: is 0.4A sufficient for charging?

2009-06-24 Thread ivvmm
Alexander Lehner wrote: BTW: Could you please send a link to the shop where you found this DC converter? Yes, I can. But here are two problems. First: they have not published it still on their website. Second: it is in Russian only. the link: http://velobig.ru signature.asc Description:

Re: strange df behaviour

2009-06-24 Thread ivvmm
Sven Klomp wrote: I think you run out of inodes because of maps data. Run df -i Virtualbox does not know about such flags. When will we have the ability to switch to GNU coreutils?.. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)

2009-06-24 Thread Jon Levell
Hi, I'm using SHR-Unstable as my daily phone, it works but there are some things that bug me, mostly I can live with or work around them. It occurs to me other people might have better work arounds so I thought I'd post my current list and see what happens: Wifi = It seems reliable with the

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
I see none of my contacts... am I missing something obvious or is it a bug ? Xavier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)

2009-06-24 Thread Michal Brzozowski
Hmm, that is one very aspect of C++ I wasn't aware of. 2009/6/24 David Ford da...@blue-labs.org that is one typical aspect. Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/6/24 David Ford da...@blue-labs.org mailto:da...@blue-labs.org do you understand the weight involved with using c++? without

Re: strange df behaviour

2009-06-24 Thread Marc Bantle
ivvmm schrieb: Hello list, found strange df behaviour. I'm using my micro sd which came with FR only for openstreetmaps. As a result it is filled with great amount of them. The filesystem on it is ext3. The df program from virtualbox reports it is filled 84%. But one cannot write there,

Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)

2009-06-24 Thread mobi phil
memory?... this remembers me about women... you can give the same amount of money to a blond, black, brunette, blue eyes etc. women... all of them they will spend it the same nanosecond... give the same money to a good businessman He will use it carefully... the programming language does not

Re: Om2009 testing release 5

2009-06-24 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/19 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm I had the phone go into unresumable suspend. I received a call while it was suspended, it woke up and I answered the call. I don't remember if I put it down or the other side. Then the phone went to suspend again, and there was another call

Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)

2009-06-24 Thread jeremy jozwik
i think the landscape hum is on all releases. i know for a fact its in shr-testing On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Jon Levellopenm...@coralbark.net wrote: Hi, I'm using SHR-Unstable as my daily phone, it works but there are some things that bug me, mostly I can live with or work around

Re: is 0.4A sufficient for charging?

2009-06-24 Thread Alexander Lehner
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, ivvmm wrote: Alexander Lehner wrote: BTW: Could you please send a link to the shop where you found this DC converter? Yes, I can. But here are two problems. First: they have not published it still on their website. Second: it is in Russian only. the link:

Re: your mail

2009-06-24 Thread mobi phil
A forum is probably better place than email lists if the email lists tend to cover huge amount of information. Having a forum, you can keep o bit more order in the knowledge base that is accumulating in the email list. Tags/labels would be probably even more powerful than the simple categories in

Re: your mail

2009-06-24 Thread Marcel
Am Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2009 22:45:54 schrieb mobi phil: A forum is probably better place than email lists if the email lists tend to cover huge amount of information. Having a forum, you can keep o bit more order in the knowledge base that is accumulating in the email list. Tags/labels would be

Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)

2009-06-24 Thread arne anka
Wifi = It seems reliable with the WPA2 networks I use it with but I can't seem to turn it off in SHR-settings and once I've connected to a network I can't reconnect to any network without rebooting. (I know there's work going on in the kernel relating to this). Workaround: After I've

Re: How to fix a broken AUX button ?

2009-06-24 Thread Philippe Lhardy
2009/6/7 Daniel Willmann dan...@totalueberwachung.de: Hey, On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 15:42:07 +0200 Philippe Lhardy philippelha...@chez.com wrote: 2009/5/26 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com: Hi Philippe, Sorry I can't help you with your problem, but I was just replying to say that I

Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)

2009-06-24 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/6/24 Jon Levell openm...@coralbark.net Midori === Aside from the superuser-warning banner (which will be gone in the next release), the keyboard shortcuts (e.g. F11 for full screen) aren't available in Literki. There's a config file for accelerator keys (~/.config/midori/accels)

Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)

2009-06-24 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Wifi = It seems reliable with the WPA2 networks I use it with but I can't seem to turn it off in SHR-settings and once I've connected to a network I can't reconnect to any network without rebooting. (I know there's work going on in the kernel relating to this). Workaround: After I've

Re: strange df behaviour

2009-06-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com writes: When will we have the ability to switch to GNU coreutils?.. I have been using coreutils for almost a year on my freerunner. It's quite portable :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)

2009-06-24 Thread Paul Fertser
Jon Levell openm...@coralbark.net writes: Hum in landscape When the phone is in landscape mode (really useful when typing with Literki) there's a quiet but persistent hum. This started to happen for me too. I thought that's some hardware parameter had slightly changed but

Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)

2009-06-24 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 06:21:49 pm Paul Fertser wrote: Jon Levell openm...@coralbark.net writes: Hum in landscape When the phone is in landscape mode (really useful when typing with Literki) there's a quiet but persistent hum. This started to happen for me too. I

Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)

2009-06-24 Thread jeremy jozwik
pygtk-rotate, rotate, accel-rotate, NewRotate, TurnScreen, simple-rotate... check http://projects.openmoko.org/search/?type_of_search=softwords=rotateSearch=Search On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Adam Jimersonvend...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 24 June 2009 06:21:49 pm Paul Fertser wrote:

tango and the missing map tiles

2009-06-24 Thread Tim Abell
Hi all, I've found that if tango doesn't have a working net connection available when you pan around it will generate empty files for the map images and then never attempt to re-download them leaving nasty gaps in your coverage. Here's a quick n dirty script that removes all the empty files so

Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)

2009-06-24 Thread Laura Vance
It's not about the programmer managing memory, the C++ compiler produces a MUCH larger memory footprint. I like C++ programming, and I used C for years before that. My first exposure to C++ was when I simply compiled one of my C programs with the C++ switch. An executable file that was about

Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)

2009-06-24 Thread Adam Jimerson
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 07:12:35 pm jeremy jozwik wrote: pygtk-rotate, rotate, accel-rotate, NewRotate, TurnScreen, simple-rotate... check http://projects.openmoko.org/search/?type_of_search=softwords=rotateSearc h=Search Thanks for the reply, accel-rotate sounds great would love for it to

Re: SHR annoyances (+ a few workarounds)

2009-06-24 Thread jeremy jozwik
wouldnt know, i only use pygtk-rotate. i like telling it when i want it to rotate : ) On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Adam Jimersonvend...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 24 June 2009 07:12:35 pm jeremy jozwik wrote: pygtk-rotate, rotate, accel-rotate, NewRotate, TurnScreen, simple-rotate...

Re: tango and the missing map tiles

2009-06-24 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/6/25 Tim Abell t...@timwise.co.uk: I've found that if tango doesn't have a working net connection available when you pan around it will generate empty files for the map images and then never attempt to re-download them leaving nasty gaps in your coverage. Here's a quick n dirty script

Re: tango and the missing map tiles

2009-06-24 Thread Joseph Booker
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:30:42 +0100 Tim Abell t...@timwise.co.uk wrote: Hi all, I've found that if tango doesn't have a working net connection available when you pan around it will generate empty files for the map images and then never attempt to re-download them leaving nasty gaps in your

Re: [SHR-Unstable] Broken Batter Applet

2009-06-24 Thread Tim Abell
bump. any news on this? I'm having the same issue in Om2009 Paul Fertser wrote: Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes: 2009/5/26 Thomas White t...@bitwiz.org.uk: I found that as well. Is anyone able to comment on what HAL is being used for in SHR-Unstable? If it's simply been

[Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X

2009-06-24 Thread Tim Abell
Hi all, I've got my bt keyboard connected, and according to hcidump I think the keypress events are getting to bluez, however they aren't getting to any applications, including xev. Does anyone know what I need to do to troubleshoot this? refs: my hcidump: http://pastebin.ca/1473582

Re: Freerunner's Future - sony ericsson evilness

2009-06-24 Thread Tim Abell
my favourite sony ericsson bug is the one where it waits till your memory stick (blergh) is almost totally full (with precious memories etc), and then wraps round and overwrites the FAT, followed by a this card is not formatted message. I'd link to the bug report but, erm, well, there is no

Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X

2009-06-24 Thread Lon Lentz
Is the keyboard using encryption? On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Tim Abellt...@timwise.co.uk wrote: Hi all, I've got my bt keyboard connected, and according to hcidump I think the keypress events are getting to bluez, however they aren't getting to any applications, including xev.

Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X

2009-06-24 Thread Tim Abell
How do I tell? It all worked fine on my ubuntu box last time I tried. Tim Abell Lon Lentz wrote: Is the keyboard using encryption? On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Tim Abellt...@timwise.co.uk wrote: Hi all, I've got my bt keyboard connected, and according to hcidump I think the

Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X

2009-06-24 Thread Lon Lentz
With Apple's keyboards, you have to add 'auth enable; encrypt enable;' to device {} in hcid.conf. Thought maybe you could be having the same problem. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Tim Abellt...@timwise.co.uk wrote: How do I tell? It all worked fine on my ubuntu box last time I tried.

Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X

2009-06-24 Thread Tim Abell
Oh, ok. I can't find the file you mention. r...@om-gta02:/etc/bluetooth# ls audio.confinput.confmain.conf network.conf rfcomm.conf Ta. Tim Abell Lon Lentz wrote: With Apple's keyboards, you have to add 'auth enable; encrypt enable;' to device {} in hcid.conf. Thought maybe

Re: [SHR-Unstable] Broken Batter Applet

2009-06-24 Thread Paul Fertser
Tim Abell t...@timwise.co.uk writes: bump. any news on this? I'm having the same issue in Om2009 I'm now convinced that this is a problem in both hal and E's battery gadget. If battery gadget didn't try to average percentages, it would ignore both usb and apm batteries and calculate the right

Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X

2009-06-24 Thread Paul Fertser
Lon Lentz lon.le...@gmail.com writes: With Apple's keyboards, you have to add 'auth enable; encrypt enable;' to device {} in hcid.conf. Thought maybe you could be having the same problem. Both SHR and OM2009 are using bluez4, so no hcid.conf there. -- Be free, use free

Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone

2009-06-24 Thread Cedric Cellier
-[ Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 05:32:42PM -0600, Laura Vance ] The thing that I think is a complete absurdity is the fact that so much of the software for the FR is written in an interpreted language (Python). This alone contributes to the slowness of the device. Not only to the slowness, but