[Community Updates] August 6th, 2009 released!

2009-08-07 Thread Patryk Benderz
Hello eveerybody, August 6th, 2009 Community Update is out! Take a look at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-08-06 and contribute to the new draft at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-08-19 -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux

Re: [Community Updates] August 6th, 2009 released!

2009-08-07 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: Hello eveerybody, August 6th, 2009 Community Update is out! Take a look at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-08-06 and contribute to the new draft at:

Re: Unabel to SSH into Neo Freerunner

2009-08-07 Thread David Fokkema
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 01:12 +, Niels Heyvaert wrote: Hi, I'm currently having difficulties connecting to the Neo Freerunner (running OM2009) from Ubuntu 9.04. Initially I did not get the usb0 ethernet connection when plugging in the booted device, so I used Correct. Om2009

Re: ZAGG invisible sheild for Neo Freerunner

2009-08-07 Thread Ben Wong
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Mikhail Umorinmike...@gmail.com wrote: It's a bit of a pain, especially the full body one. You need steady hands and a lot of patience. The installation takes about an hour, then ZAGG recommends to leave it overnight. Then the plastic snugs like a glove on the

Re: [Community Updates] August 6th, 2009 released!

2009-08-07 Thread KaZeR
Nicola Mfb wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: Hello eveerybody, August 6th, 2009 Community Update is out! Take a look at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/2009-08-06 and contribute to the new draft at:

Re: Unabel to SSH into Neo Freerunner

2009-08-07 Thread arne anka
i have serious issues, to distinguish what you do on your pc and what on the freerunner. the pc should have ip .200 and the fr .202. so, please explain more carfully what you are doing and mention the distribution you are using on your fr. ___

Re: intone-video 0.12

2009-08-07 Thread KaZeR
c_c wrote: Hi, Well, I find that while mplayer with the xglamo patches cant play flv files - it does perform better. So I'm going back to that version of mplayer. Changes * uses mplayer with xglamo support * dbus support for - incoming calls - outgoing

Re: ZAGG invisible sheild for Neo Freerunner

2009-08-07 Thread Biagio Marino
Hello, Zagg undersupplies the SHIELD spray for the full body option, so use sparingly, but liberally when installing the screen piece because any fingerprints will be visible (like on mine :) ) -- even if you wash you hands really well. What do you think about the use of latex glove to

Re: Debian installation

2009-08-07 Thread Davide Scaini
try debian kernel... ;-) d On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:23 AM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Esteban Mongeesteban.franci...@gmail.com wrote: Hello. Sorry for my very bad english, I speak spanish... hola! do you happen to have a usb keyboard

Re: Neon!

2009-08-07 Thread Valery Febvre
jeremy jozwik wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Marceltan...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello! I just want to praise Valery Febvre for her (? Sounds female to me... females are rare in here *g*) absolutely great picture viewer, namely Neon. yah, neon rocks. and its awesomely fast Marcel,

Selling Freerunner - London

2009-08-07 Thread ezuall
All, Unfortunately I don't really have time for my Freerunner anymore. This was one of the coolest devices I've ever had the opportunity to use, but it's depressing having it gather dust in the corner while someone could actually be using it. Before I put it on eBay I was wondering if anyone

Re: SHR working application list

2009-08-07 Thread Petr Vanek
Now that the SHR Manual Draft is up (1) and the Logo contest is ongoing (2) it would be a good idea to to have a wiki page listing that are working on current SHR Unstable. I was thinking of a table with the following columns most applications are in opkg, what if opkg got some fields to fill in

Freerunner audio channels

2009-08-07 Thread David Fokkema
Hi list, I finally took a lunch break to check out the various alsa channel settings. Angus's mixer scripts rock, BTW! Trying to track down the input for the handset, I've looked at the wolfson schematic, browsed through the handset state file and can only come to the conclusion that the audio

Re: SHR working application list

2009-08-07 Thread Petr Vanek
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:23:32 +0200 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz (PV) wrote: Now that the SHR Manual Draft is up (1) and the Logo contest is ongoing (2) it would be a good idea to to have a wiki page listing that are working on current SHR Unstable. I was thinking of a table with the following

Re: Neon!

2009-08-07 Thread Marcel
Am Freitag, 7. August 2009 15:05:27 schrieb Valery Febvre: Marcel: sorry I'm a guy ;-) Dammit! Okay, sorry for misintepreting your name... :D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Freerunner audio channels

2009-08-07 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/7/09, David Fokkema dfokk...@ileos.nl wrote: - Why exactly are FR's different while I've never heard of Nokia users needing to tweak mixer settings. WTF? Every phone user tweaks mixer settings by using volume up and volume down buttons during call... In Freerunner we only miss good UI

Re: Freerunner audio channels

2009-08-07 Thread Marcel
Am Freitag, 7. August 2009 16:29:24 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak: On 8/7/09, David Fokkema dfokk...@ileos.nl wrote: - Why exactly are FR's different while I've never heard of Nokia users needing to tweak mixer settings. WTF? Every phone user tweaks mixer settings by using volume up and

Re: Unabel to SSH into Neo Freerunner

2009-08-07 Thread Angus Ainslie
On August 6, 2009 09:07:40 pm c_c wrote: Hi, I also get the following error :- usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 7 usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices eth1: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:0b.0-2, CDC Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:2a:26

Re: Freerunner audio channels

2009-08-07 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/7/09, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Freitag, 7. August 2009 16:29:24 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak: On 8/7/09, David Fokkema dfokk...@ileos.nl wrote: - Why exactly are FR's different while I've never heard of Nokia users needing to tweak mixer settings. WTF? Every phone user

Re: Debian installation

2009-08-07 Thread Esteban Monge
try debian kernel... ;-) Hello thanks for the answers... I must download the kernel of http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6-openmoko/? And how download the driver modules? Or the kernel have the kernel modules? hola! do you happen to have a usb keyboard that perhaps

Re: intone-video 0.12

2009-08-07 Thread Michele Brocco
On 8/7/09, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: c_c wrote: Hi, Well, I find that while mplayer with the xglamo patches cant play flv files - it does perform better. So I'm going back to that version of mplayer. Changes * uses mplayer with xglamo support * dbus

Re: ZAGG invisible sheild for Neo Freerunner

2009-08-07 Thread Warren Baird
I bought the full body shield and had it installed for maybe 6 months before just pulling off all but the screen protector a few days ago. Like someone else mentioned, the edges collect a lot of dirt and grit, and just doesn't look that great. My recommendation is to just get the screen

Re: intone-video 0.12

2009-08-07 Thread Bernd Prünster
KaZeR schrieb: - the video doesn't scale - the video isn't centered, it's player on the top-left corner same here Video is available here if you need it for tests : http://www.kazer.org/RampRollOver-moko.avi Thank you :) Otherwise, video playback seems smooth so far, nice!

Re: Help with FSO calls timeouts (was: (om2009) OpenBmap client keeps crashing)

2009-08-07 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
comments inline On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Onenonen...@free.fr wrote: I changed the subject, in order to try bringing attention to your timeouts issues... good   If paroli doesn't run, it wont start at all. This might be because my application does not request the GSM ressource.

Re: Freerunner audio channels

2009-08-07 Thread Vasco Névoa
I think you're all missing the point. David's initial post is a breath of fresh air into a long debated but (AFAIK) non-resolved issue. I deeply welcome his investigation into this subject, and support his questions (which I also would like to see answered). Although the issue of low

Re: Freerunner audio channels

2009-08-07 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 07 August 2009, David Fokkema wrote: Hi list, I finally took a lunch break to check out the various alsa channel settings. Angus's mixer scripts rock, BTW! Trying to track down the input for the handset, I've looked at the wolfson schematic, browsed through the handset state file

Re: Help with FSO calls timeouts (was: (om2009) OpenBmap client keeps crashing)

2009-08-07 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/7/09, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: This might be because my application does not request the GSM ressource. Thus, if GSM is not up and running, requested by another application, I am not sure of how nice it handles it. Thats what I thought. Requesting the GSM resource might be

Re: [Community Updates] August 6th, 2009 released!

2009-08-07 Thread Dan Staley
Thanks for the update! And the new layout looks very nice! On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:40 AM, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: Nicola Mfb wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: Hello eveerybody, August 6th, 2009 Community Update is out! Take a

Re: Document with answers to most popular battery-related questions is ready

2009-08-07 Thread Paul Fertser
Rafael Campos meth...@gmail.com writes: Q: But why doesn't it ever stop charging on my device? A: The GSM modem is connected directly to the battery terminals so if it's active, charger will think it's still charging the battery and won't turn off unless GSM becomes inactive.

Keyboard (delete/backspace, insert...)

2009-08-07 Thread glenn . mh . dk
Hi! I have tried to find the following in the default keyboard in Om2009 unstable Illume touchscreen keyboard - at least: * delete/backspace * insert without inserted space at the end of the insertion point I have tried to use it to change paths in e.g. Navit - but the inserted spaces is a

Re: Keyboard (delete/backspace, insert...)

2009-08-07 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/7/09, glenn.mh...@gmail.com glenn.mh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I have tried to find the following in the default keyboard in Om2009 unstable Illume touchscreen keyboard - at least: * delete/backspace * insert without inserted space at the end of the insertion point I have tried to use

Re: Keyboard (delete/backspace, insert...)

2009-08-07 Thread glenn . mh . dk
At 20:00 +0200 07/08/09, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: ... Sorry, but that mail made me feel depressed :/ Click on everything possible on keyboard, say oh my god, i was blind! and select Terminal keyboard -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko

Re: Freerunner audio channels

2009-08-07 Thread David Fokkema
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 16:29 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On 8/7/09, David Fokkema dfokk...@ileos.nl wrote: - Why exactly are FR's different while I've never heard of Nokia users needing to tweak mixer settings. WTF? Every phone user tweaks mixer settings by using volume up and

Re: ZAGG invisible sheild for Neo Freerunner

2009-08-07 Thread Mikhail Umorin
On Friday 07 August 2009 05:44:09 Biagio Marino wrote: Hello, ... What do you think about the use of latex glove to prevent the formation of fingerprints? I don't think it's a good idea. First, latex gloves seem to have some kind of a powder on them -- that will stick to the screen. Second,

Re: Freerunner audio channels

2009-08-07 Thread David Fokkema
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 16:52 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On 8/7/09, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Freitag, 7. August 2009 16:29:24 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak: On 8/7/09, David Fokkema dfokk...@ileos.nl wrote: - Why exactly are FR's different while I've never heard of

Re: Freerunner audio channels

2009-08-07 Thread David Fokkema
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 16:45 +0100, Vasco Névoa wrote: I think you're all missing the point. David's initial post is a breath of fresh air into a long debated but (AFAIK) non-resolved issue. Thanks! I deeply welcome his investigation into this subject, and support his questions

Re: Keyboard (delete/backspace, insert...)

2009-08-07 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/7/09, glenn.mh...@gmail.com glenn.mh...@gmail.com wrote: If you catched the proper notion you will think: Oh My God - I have been enlightened! From now on I will also remember to think about usability and not provide my end users with nerdy user interface stuff, e.g. some non-button like

Re: Freerunner audio channels

2009-08-07 Thread David Fokkema
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 17:12 +0100, Al Johnson wrote: On Friday 07 August 2009, David Fokkema wrote: - Why exactly are FR's different while I've never heard of Nokia users needing to tweak mixer settings. Most phones have a simple volume up/down control, often a pair of buttons on the

Re: Keyboard (delete/backspace, insert...)

2009-08-07 Thread glenn . mh . dk
At 21:30 +0200 07/08/09, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On 8/7/09, glenn.mh...@gmail.com glenn.mh...@gmail.com wrote: If you catched the proper notion you will think: Oh My God - I have been enlightened! From now on I will also remember to think about usability and not provide my end users

Re: Keyboard (delete/backspace, insert...)

2009-08-07 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/7/09, glenn.mh...@gmail.com glenn.mh...@gmail.com wrote: It support gestures, so you don't need that button, and you even don't need backspace and space buttons. I have tried that - results in characters just popping up many times instead... Do not bother it is just a silly usability

Re: Unabel to SSH into Neo Freerunner

2009-08-07 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 09:56:04PM -0500, c_c wrote: It's been a little flaky for me too after the last two SHR-U updates. unplugging and re-plugging seems to work every 3rd plug or so. But doesn't last long. Had a tough time upgrading yesterday to latest SHR-U. Any Ideas? FWIW, of

Re: Freerunner audio channels

2009-08-07 Thread Denis Johnson
+1 2009/8/8 Vasco Névoa vasco.ne...@sapo.pt I think you're all missing the point. David's initial post is a breath of fresh air into a long debated but (AFAIK) non-resolved issue. I deeply welcome his investigation into this subject, and support his questions (which I also would like to

[shr] illume keyboard problem when rotating screen

2009-08-07 Thread Davide Scaini
hi mates, i'm using shr-u every day updated ... danger is my hobby. i'm experiencing some problems when i rotate the screen: illume keyboard does not fit anymore and i cannot pop it out. if i disable then re-enable the keyboard all works then ... any idea? thanks d ps if i suspend then resume

Re: [shr] illume keyboard problem when rotating screen

2009-08-07 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Davide Scainidsca...@gmail.com wrote: hi mates, i'm using shr-u every day updated ... danger is my hobby. i'm experiencing some problems when i rotate the screen: illume keyboard does not fit anymore and i cannot pop it out. thats not only a problem on the

Re: Neon! -- [Phone number scroll design]

2009-08-07 Thread Daniel.Li
Hi All, I think the scrolling action, in Neon, is perfect. Is there any possibility to implement this feature into Contacts/Message/Settings in SHR, which can be scrolled smoothly like Neon does? On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 15:05 +0200, Valery Febvre wrote: jeremy jozwik wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009

Re: Neon! -- [Phone number scroll design]

2009-08-07 Thread Bernd Prünster
Daniel.Li schrieb: Hi All, I think the scrolling action, in Neon, is perfect. Is there any possibility to implement this feature into Contacts/Message/Settings in SHR, which can be scrolled smoothly like Neon does? this depends mostly on the theme. contacts use etk tree (aswell as msgs)

Re: [shr] illume keyboard problem when rotating screen

2009-08-07 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 04:44:40PM -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: thats not only a problem on the newest version. little things like that is why i switched to literki. now if only he would re-code the vibrate feature i would be super happy moko guy Oh, man. Thank you so much for making

Re: Keyboard (delete/backspace, insert...)

2009-08-07 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:57 PM, glenn.mh...@gmail.com wrote: At 21:30 +0200 07/08/09, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: [...] And Freerunner isn't for end users. It's for geeky and nerdy users With good software freerunner is for end users ;) [...] usability in meaning i'm too stupid to know if

Micro SD question

2009-08-07 Thread Cristian Gómez
Hi all, I'm waiting for my FR (can't wait). I'm following the list and see some messages complaining about problems with some micro SD cards (like Kingston) I want your opinions about what memory should I buy. Does a Markvision one work correctly? Thanks /***

Re: Micro SD question

2009-08-07 Thread Damian Spriggs
I've had no problems with my Trancend 8Gb on SHR, Hackable, or Android. On Aug 7, 2009, at 11:54 PM, Cristian Gómez wrote: Hi all, I'm waiting for my FR (can't wait). I'm following the list and see some messages complaining about problems with some micro SD cards (like Kingston) I want

Re: Keyboard (delete/backspace, insert...)

2009-08-07 Thread William Kenworthy
Yes, its a well known usability issue and FR black mark. Find the directory where terminal.kbd lives and copy it over the top of the others - problem solved. BillK On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 21:57 +0200, glenn.mh...@gmail.com wrote: At 21:30 +0200 07/08/09, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On

Re: [shr] illume keyboard problem when rotating screen

2009-08-07 Thread William Kenworthy
On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 16:44 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Davide Scainidsca...@gmail.com wrote: hi mates, i'm using shr-u every day updated ... danger is my hobby. i'm experiencing some problems when i rotate the screen: illume keyboard does not fit anymore