Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-28 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/8/27 Lee Grime lee.gr...@gmail.com: Re-camping.  I can only tell it is doing this because I left it near my PC and the speakers were picking it up!  Happens about every 5-10mins. I did not have this problem with SHR, it is stable for GSM.  SMS has a few quirks, but nothing major.  I know

Re: QtMoko images V8

2009-08-28 Thread undrwater
Radek Polak wrote: Hi all, i am just uploading new QtMoko debian images. You can download as usually from http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/ Changes from previous version: * UI is much faster (by fixing bug with opened accelerators.) Yes it is! Thanks! *

Re: [all] Don't answer a call by turning FR upside down..

2009-08-28 Thread Markus T�rnqvist
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 01:33:18AM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Shouldn't be very hard but it'd be extremely cool. Integration to a distro (SHR maybe :) might be a bit more of a hack (adding GUI to enable/disable this feature etc) though.. Very valid pros and cons so far, but for most

Re: QtMoko images V8

2009-08-28 Thread HouYu Li
Hi, radek. The system not showing up the GSM network status and icons on desktop not clickable. I am using u-boot. Do I have to change to Qi?? Or something missed in the image?? On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi all, i am just uploading new QtMoko debian

Re: Showroom hosting , roadmap draft design

2009-08-28 Thread Markus T�rnqvist
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 08:18:47AM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Fabian Killusfab...@ji-xiansheng.de wrote: http://ji-xiansheng.de/tmp/om_packages_mockup.png Wow, nice done Fabian! +1 I like the layout, it has the elements we need. I can't find anything else

Re: QtMoko images V8

2009-08-28 Thread Radek Polak
undrwater wrtote: * Bluetooth works again (thanks to Bartłomiej Zimoń) Not for me. Still get: Bluetooth not available. Yes, but that's another bug :) But after reboot bluetooth should work just fine (suspend breaks it). Regards Radek ___

Re: QtMoko images V8

2009-08-28 Thread Radek Polak
HouYu Li wrote: Hi, radek. The system not showing up the GSM network status and icons on desktop not clickable. I am using u-boot. Do I have to change to Qi?? Or something missed in the image?? Hi HouYu Li, i am using uboot too. Do you have it in NAND? Maybe you can check if md5 matches or

Re: Showroom hosting , roadmap draft design

2009-08-28 Thread Fabian Killus
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:18:47 +0300 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Fabian Killusfab...@ji-xiansheng.de wrote: I did a quick mockup of how I would like to have such a showroom look like. The traditional openmoko colors were used. Please comment if

Re: [SHR-U] Bluetooth and GSM... Again.

2009-08-28 Thread undrwater
c_c wrote: Hi, Also, I need a way to enable/disable bluetooth without editing configs and restarting frameworkd and ophonekitd, as doing so takes several minutes. Best solved by making two bash scripts and their associated .desktop files. Inconvenient hack - but it's working for me.

Re: Showroom hosting , roadmap draft design

2009-08-28 Thread Fabian Killus
On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:54:37 +0300 m...@nysv.org (Markus Törnqvist) wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 08:18:47AM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Fabian Killusfab...@ji-xiansheng.de wrote: http://ji-xiansheng.de/tmp/om_packages_mockup.png Wow, nice done Fabian!

Re: Showroom hosting , roadmap draft design

2009-08-28 Thread Markus T�rnqvist
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 07:13:23AM +0200, Fabian Killus wrote: On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:18:47 +0300 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Actually this is heavily inspired by gentoo-portage.com, which is a nice (but unofficial) package listing system for Gentoo. I just added the distributions menu

SHR clock reset

2009-08-28 Thread Michal Brzozowski
Hi, I'm having the following problem on SHR-u. The clock resets itself to 0:00 Jan 1 2000 once in a while. Sometimes it's correct again. Any idea which program is doing this? Is it getting incorrect time from GSM? Michal ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: SHR first experiences user manual

2009-08-28 Thread Paul Fertser
Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi writes: How about preferring nano over vi? I think nano - telling people what to press, might be more friendlier. Nano is fucked-up shit imho. I'd be sad to see it mentioned in the SHR manual, no matter what the reasoning is. -- Be free, use free

Re: SHR first experiences user manual

2009-08-28 Thread Markus T�rnqvist
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:32:09AM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi writes: How about preferring nano over vi? I think nano - telling people what to press, might be more friendlier. Nano is fucked-up shit imho. I'd be sad to see it mentioned in the SHR manual, no

Community list archives fail

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
A message didn't make it to the lists archive completely: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-August/054019.html vs. http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f1958 r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi

Re: QtMoko images V8

2009-08-28 Thread Thomas HOCEDEZ
Hi ! Great, I don't have my phone here, but I'll test ASAP. I have some other questions (from some french users): -Is a more efficient Web browser is included ? The one by default is not really good. - How can I reactivate the keyboard while surfing ? I can't authenticate on some sites 'cause I

vi vs. nano in shr user manual (was Re: SHR first experiences user manual)

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Audio:_Volume On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Markus Törnqvistm...@nysv.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:32:09AM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi writes: How about preferring nano over vi? I think nano - telling

RE: [all] Don't answer a call by turning FR upside down..

2009-08-28 Thread Niels Heyvaert
Shouldn't be very hard but it'd be extremely cool. Integration to a distro (SHR maybe :) might be a bit more of a hack (adding GUI to enable/disable this feature etc) though.. Yes, it does sound like a cool feature, as long as it is turned off by default :-). Question is, is this the

Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus

2009-08-28 Thread KaZeR
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: tangogps (=mapnik) map looks better tangogps map scrolls smoother faster True, realtime-drawn maps on low power device like the FR can't compete with bitmaps maps on these points. Risto H. Kurppa wrote: tangogps doesn't crash/freeze It would be interesting

Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux

2009-08-28 Thread Marcel
I'm trying to try this ;), but I cannot seem to download caches. Does downloading require me to have a gc.com subscription to make mass cache downloads? AGT keeps telling me my user/pass (definitely correct) are wrong... -- Marcel Am Donnerstag, den 27.08.2009, 15:02 -0500 schrieb D. Fett:

Re: QtMoko images V8

2009-08-28 Thread Radek Polak
Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote: -Is a more efficient Web browser is included ? The one by default is not really good. Yes, that browser has many problems. I am trying to port arora web browser, but it will take some time. Until then you can install some browsers for X windows and use QX to run them. I

Re: Community list archives fail

2009-08-28 Thread Marko Knöbl
2009/8/28, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: A message didn't make it to the lists archive completely: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-August/054019.html vs. http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f1958 r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi |

Re: SHR first experiences user manual

2009-08-28 Thread George Brooke
On Friday 28 August 2009 08:40:19 Markus T�rnqvist wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:32:09AM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi writes: How about preferring nano over vi? I think nano - telling people what to press, might be more friendlier. Nano is fucked-up shit

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-28 Thread David Garabana Barro
O Xoves, 27 de Agosto de 2009, Lee Grime escribiu: Re-camping. I can only tell it is doing this because I left it near my PC and the speakers were picking it up! Happens about every 5-10mins. I did not have this problem with SHR, it is stable for GSM. SMS has a few quirks, but nothing

Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:06 AM, KaZeRka...@altern.org wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: True, realtime-drawn maps on low power device like the FR can't compete with bitmaps maps on these points. Don't know if glamo will help here at some stage.. Risto H. Kurppa wrote: tangogps doesn't

Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux

2009-08-28 Thread D. Fett
It should work with a regular user account. Are you sure your network connection works? Daniel Marcel-2 wrote: I'm trying to try this ;), but I cannot seem to download caches. Does downloading require me to have a gc.com subscription to make mass cache downloads? AGT keeps telling me my

Re: vi vs. nano in shr user manual (was Re: SHR first experiences user manual)

2009-08-28 Thread Petr Vanek
Maybe the manual should explain how to use vi: how to save, exit etc.. I have no idea how to use it. Maybe a link to vi howto? the question is how in depth should the manual go. even describing how to adjust volume level (which as has been said million times is unique to each device so there is

Re: Community list archives fail

2009-08-28 Thread Patryk Benderz
The link to nabble doesn't work. Here's the correct one: http://n2.nabble.com/all-Don-t-answer-a-call-by-turning-FR-upside-down-tp3530667p3530667.html Marko, maybe we should convince others (as on wiki CUD) to use: ? http://news.gmane.org/index.php?prefix=gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko -- Kind

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Tried to install debian today: INST_MIRROR=http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian HOST=ribian TASKS=ALL SINGLE_PART=true QI=true ./install.sh all problem #1: fdisk fails. (copied from irc..) 10:08 rhkfin Syncing disks. 10:08 rhkfin Partitioning failed, could not execute with fdisk: 10:08 rhkfin n

Re: [all] Don't answer a call by turning FR upside down..

2009-08-28 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Am Freitag 28 August 2009 09:48:46 schrieb Niels Heyvaert: Shouldn't be very hard but it'd be extremely cool. Integration to a distro (SHR maybe :) might be a bit more of a hack (adding GUI to enable/disable this feature etc) though.. Yes, it does sound like a cool feature, as long as it

Re: vi vs. nano in shr user manual (was Re: SHR first experiences user manual)

2009-08-28 Thread Fabian Schölzel
2009/8/28 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: I have no problems accepting that some prefer more vi than nano but I have hard time accepting it being suggested in a manual where you can't be sure people know how to use it as it isn't as self-explanatory as nano, no matter how much Ctrl you have

Re: Unknown boot options

2009-08-28 Thread David Fokkema
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 11:30 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com writes: Unknown boot option 'g_ether.dev_addr=MAC' 4 times in a row. It does not affect anything but I hate to see error messages when my loglevel=1 quiet and my device is perfectly fine. It

Re: [all] Don't answer a call by turning FR upside down..

2009-08-28 Thread arne anka
that what if it wasn't just turning the phone that caused the call to go silent, but a fast speed? Regardless of starting direction... So you could take the phone out and it wouldn't go silent just yet until you whip it. yepp. if you hit right, it might silence the fr for good.

Re: [all] Don't answer a call by turning FR upside down..

2009-08-28 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 01:33:18AM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: From what I heard the issue is that reading accelerometers is very CPU-intensive. Not really! omnewrotate doesn't ever take more than 1% and usually is around 0% (according to top -d 1 -p ...) What's very cpu intensive is to

Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus

2009-08-28 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] with this: Unfortunately using the country border for detecting the membership of a town also isn't an option, because the boundaries are usually not closed or wrong Exactly, but few sentences further, they claim there is a workaround - you need some scripts they made. -- Kind Regards,

Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] with this: Unfortunately using the country border for detecting the membership of a town also isn't an option, because the boundaries are usually not closed or wrong Exactly, but few sentences further, they

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-28 Thread Radek Polak
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Tried to install debian today: ... E: Internal error: install I really dont like these long install scripts. When it works it's good but if not, it's really hard to find where is problem. I think Debian should be offered as ready-for-flash image. I am creating debian

Re: QtMoko images V8

2009-08-28 Thread Bart .
Dnia 28 sierpnia 2009 9:07 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz napisał(a): undrwater wrtote: * Bluetooth works again (thanks to Bartłomiej Zimoń) Not for me. Still get: Bluetooth not available. Yes, but that's another bug :) But after reboot bluetooth should work just fine (suspend

Re: vi vs. nano in shr user manual (was Re: SHR first experiences user manual)

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Petr Vanekvan...@penguin.cz wrote: Maybe the manual should explain how to use vi: how to save, exit etc.. I have no idea how to use it. Maybe a link to vi howto? the question is how in depth should the manual go. even describing how to adjust volume level

Re: Debian first experience made a bit easier...

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Radek Polakpson...@seznam.cz wrote: I really dont like these long install scripts. When it works it's good but if not, it's really hard to find where is problem. But isn't that the thing with everything? I think Debian should be offered as ready-for-flash

Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux

2009-08-28 Thread Marcel
Yes, I'm sure about that and now as I tried again it worked. Strange. Does the program need a restart first to write the data to a config file? Just guessing here... Anyway, next issue :) Downloading works quite fine, had to create ~/caches first and wondered why it won't work... Could you please

Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux

2009-08-28 Thread D. Fett
Marcel-2 wrote: Yes, I'm sure about that and now as I tried again it worked. Strange. Does the program need a restart first to write the data to a config file? Just guessing here... Exactly this may be the case. Will check that later Marcel-2 wrote: Anyway, next issue :)

Re: Freerunner wireless internet

2009-08-28 Thread Helge Hafting
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 01:19:52PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: 1. The wireless does not work after the phone wakes from suspend. [...] Just this morning, with SHR 2009/08/08: 1. resume 2. enable wifi in shr-settings 3. use mofi to connect

Re: Towards paperless geocaching - Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux

2009-08-28 Thread Marcel
Am Freitag, den 28.08.2009, 05:08 -0500 schrieb D. Fett: Marcel-2 wrote: Could you please make the Maps dir configurable? I luckily have a symlink ~/Maps - mapdir, but someone else won't... That should be no problem. Until now, I only know about tangoGPS downloading maps automatically,

Re: SHR clock reset

2009-08-28 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/8/28 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com On 8/28/09, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Hi, I'm having the following problem on SHR-u. The clock resets itself to 0:00 Jan 1 2000 once in a while. Sometimes it's correct again. Any idea which program is doing this? Is

Re: [all] Don't answer a call by turning FR upside down..

2009-08-28 Thread Helge Hafting
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Hi! There's been this rumor about using accelerometers of Freerunner to ignore a call around. At the moment there are no useful applications for gestures, only (great!) games: mokomaze, doom etc. Someone wrote the framework for gestures but it's not been actually

Re: SHR clock reset

2009-08-28 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/28/09, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: 2009/8/28 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com On 8/28/09, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: Hi, I'm having the following problem on SHR-u. The clock resets itself to 0:00 Jan 1 2000 once in a while. Sometimes it's

Re: [all] Don't answer a call by turning FR upside down..

2009-08-28 Thread Michal Brzozowski
If the phone is not upside down, alert as predefined. Continue sniffing: if the phone is turned upside down, go silent, stop vibra. And reject the call too, I guess? What happens if I change the phone profile when it's ringing? Does it keep just vibrating if I change to it to

Re: [all] Don't answer a call by turning FR upside down..

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Helge Haftinghelge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Can you check that is is exactly upside down, and ring anyway if it is a few degrees or more off from completely flat? People put phones is pockets. Women put them in handbags, even. So the

Re: [SHR-U] GSM and GPRS Problems

2009-08-28 Thread Michele Brocco
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/19/09, Michele Brocco ssj2mi...@gmail.com wrote: Since the latest troubles with fsousaged in FSO I am having problems with gsm and gprs. When I reboot I can enter my pin and everything works fine. After it,

Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus

2009-08-28 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.plwrote: [cut] I like all the purposes you did it for - this makes Navit again a bit more usable Oh, come on Risto, it is much more usable than tangoGPS for example. Navit has a working routing engine which is vital.

Re: SHR clock reset

2009-08-28 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/8/28 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: I'm having the following problem on SHR-u. The clock resets itself to 0:00 Jan 1 2000 once in a while. Sometimes it's correct again. Any idea which program is doing this? Is it getting incorrect time from GSM? i get this sometimes when shr breaks

RE: SHR clock reset

2009-08-28 Thread Niels Heyvaert
I don't understand what you mean. Care to elaborate? The phone had always automagically set the time correctly (from gsm I suppose). Recently it doesn't do that anymore. Freerunner (as almost all other phones) has small battery inside to keep clock running even without that big battery. It

Re: SHR clock reset

2009-08-28 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/28/09, Niels Heyvaert nielsheyva...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't understand what you mean. Care to elaborate? The phone had always automagically set the time correctly (from gsm I suppose). Recently it doesn't do that anymore. Freerunner (as almost all other phones) has small battery

Re: vi vs. nano in shr user manual (was Re: SHR first experiences user manual)

2009-08-28 Thread William Kenworthy
On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 11:00 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Audio:_Volume ... Wait a sec - did I understand correctly that you want to tell people to use vi in the user manual? So I take you expect that people going through the manual are

Re: vi vs. nano in shr user manual (was Re: SHR first experiences user manual)

2009-08-28 Thread Iain B. Findleton
The FLTK distribution has an excellent editor that is largely based on nedit code which I use on my FR. Forward your X display to another host and fire it up. Does not have all the features of nedit, but works just fine when compiled out of the box. ... Wait a sec - did I understand

Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus

2009-08-28 Thread Adolph J. Vogel
Do you mean this: This is because osm2navit only knows about a few is_in tags. To fix this, look for a reliable is_in tag in the towns in your country. If there is none, contact us, we have some scripts which can help adding one in this case. Then add the tag (at most 3 per country) to this

Re: Qt Extended 4.4.3

2009-08-28 Thread Pablo Miño
I am actually using GTA01, not GTA02 (I did not fix it yet, I hope I can do it soon). Are there QtMoko images for GTA01 or only GTA02? As I have been using Qt Extended for a while now I was really wanting to give it a try to 4.4.3, is it possible to give you an FTP where you can upload the

Re: Qt Extended 4.4.3

2009-08-28 Thread HouYu Li
oops. sorry. I do not have images for GTA01. Terribly sorry. 2009/8/28 Pablo Miño pablodanielm...@gmail.com I am actually using GTA01, not GTA02 (I did not fix it yet, I hope I can do it soon). Are there QtMoko images for GTA01 or only GTA02? As I have been using Qt Extended for a while now

Re: vi vs. nano in shr user manual (was Re: SHR first experiences user manual)

2009-08-28 Thread Marko Knöbl
2009/8/28, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz: I also question too many links in the manual as i would like to package it as html for people to view it on the phone... The Wiki Editing Guidelines[1] are already telling people to Use as few links as possible. However these guidelines are hard to

Re: vi vs. nano in shr user manual (was Re: SHR first experiences user manual)

2009-08-28 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 28 August 2009, William Kenworthy wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-28 at 11:00 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Audio:_Volume ... Wait a sec - did I understand correctly that you want to tell people to use vi in the user manual? So I

Re: Om2009

2009-08-28 Thread Tom Yates
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: Angus Ainslie a écrit : Now I have a question of all of you. Should I continue to maintain Om2009. From the recent poll by rhk it seems that SHR users outnumber OM users by ~ 7:1. So what I'd like to know is does anyone still think Om2009 is a

Re: Om 2009, NWA, keyboard?

2009-08-28 Thread Carsten Gerlach
Hello, Am Mittwoch 26. August 2009 23:58:24 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: click the top bar and then click the keyboard on top right and there you go, easy as what :) Is it possible to start the keyboard with the layout terminal automatically when I start the terminal? Thanks, Carsten -- Hier

Re: Om 2009, NWA, keyboard?

2009-08-28 Thread Matthias Huber
Carsten Gerlach schrieb: Hello, Am Mittwoch 26. August 2009 23:58:24 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: click the top bar and then click the keyboard on top right and there you go, easy as what :) Is it possible to start the keyboard with the layout terminal automatically when I start the

Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

2009-08-28 Thread Steven **
To clarify, is it possible to have the LED's on while in suspend at all? Or does the software have to drive the LED high (and default without software input is off)? -Steven On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Timo Juhani Lindforstimo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Nathan Kinkade n...@nkinka.de writes:

Re: Freerunner wireless internet

2009-08-28 Thread Michele Brocco
On 8/26/09, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Michele Broccossj2mi...@gmail.com wrote: [...] For me in SHR-U with mofi wifi reconnects after resume (just with the same essid however). It just doesnt re-request a dhcp lease, have to call udhcpc manually

Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

2009-08-28 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Steven **montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.com wrote: To clarify, is it possible to have the LED's on while in suspend at all?  Or does the software have to drive the LED high (and default without software input is off)? The leds could be on or off on suspend

Re: Om2009

2009-08-28 Thread Petr Vanek
but identifying which -U images are fully-functional and which are boxes of part-broken bits seems a bit of a black art. any of you SHR chaps car e to tell us OM2009 stick-in-the-muds how the knowledge of which releases are functional and which are less so is transmitted? any chance of you

Re: vi vs. nano in shr user manual (was Re: SHR first experiences user manual)

2009-08-28 Thread Petr Vanek
I would agree with Risto here - vi is great for experienced users, but for the inexperienced or pure user - it can be a nightmare experience that provides detractors with plenty of ammunition that linux is hard to use, for geeks only and not for serious use ... and what about leafpad - it's

Re: vi vs. nano in shr user manual (was Re: SHR first experiences user manual)

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Petr Vanekvan...@penguin.cz wrote: I would agree with Risto here - vi is great for experienced users, but for the inexperienced or pure user - it can be a nightmare experience that provides detractors with plenty of ammunition that linux is hard to use, for

Re: Om2009

2009-08-28 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Am Donnerstag, den 27.08.2009, 11:21 -0400 schrieb Warren Baird: I must admit that I switched from OM2009 to SHR-U about a month ago now, since it looked like nothing was happening. I must admit that aside from Paroli (which apparently is coming soon to SHR-U - or already there), it wasn't

Re: Om2009

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Bernhard Reiterock...@raz.or.at wrote: OM2009 users: are you successfully using your Freerunners as phones (also picking up calls)? Or just for non-phone purposes? Yes, om2009 unstable. (but I still vote for going to SHR :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at

Re: SHR clock reset

2009-08-28 Thread Vikas Saurabh
Timezone from GSM is already implemented for ages ;) I have often got wrong timezones reported by cell (thereby resetting my phone's clock and making me reach late somewhere :(...but thats a different story) I was wondering if shr-settings can get something like: Use cell timezone: * yes * no *

Re: Om2009

2009-08-28 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/28/09, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Bernhard Reiterock...@raz.or.at wrote: OM2009 users: are you successfully using your Freerunners as phones (also picking up calls)? Or just for non-phone purposes? Yes, om2009 unstable. (but I still vote for

Om2009 Maintainer

2009-08-28 Thread Angus Ainslie
Hi All, After some deliberation and input from the community I am going to stop maintaining Om2009. I'm going work on getting paroli to co-exsist in SHR. If you want to try and run paroli in SHR unstable RFN. Flash the latest shr- unstable image.

Re: SHR clock reset

2009-08-28 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/28/09, Vikas Saurabh vikas.saur...@gmail.com wrote: Timezone from GSM is already implemented for ages ;) I have often got wrong timezones reported by cell (thereby resetting my phone's clock and making me reach late somewhere :(...but thats a different story) I was wondering if

Re: QNavitCtl - Navit Bookmarks via dbus

2009-08-28 Thread arne anka
i just tried qnavitctl right now and had two problems: - where is the bookmarks.csv supposed to come from? navit creates bookmark.txt - tab buttons, button register leads only to could not get Navit instance and QDBusObjectPath: invalid path reply: coud not get iter

Re: Om2009 Maintainer

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Angus Ainslienyt...@openmoko.org wrote: Hi All, After some deliberation and input from the community I am going to stop maintaining Om2009.  I'm going work on getting paroli to co-exsist in SHR. If you want to try and run paroli in SHR unstable RFN. Flash

Re: SHR clock reset

2009-08-28 Thread Petr Vanek
I was wondering if shr-settings can get something like: Use cell timezone: * yes * no * ask --Vikas It can't, as FSO doesn't expose that over dbus. And I won't implement editing frameworkd.conf manually, as it's really ugly. why not? you already do anyways for [odeviced.idlenotifier], or

Re: Om 2009, NWA, keyboard?

2009-08-28 Thread Stefan Fröbe
Just put the following into a script to run after an update: #!/bin/sh cd /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards rm Default.kbd ln -sf Terminal.kbd Default.kbd HTH Stefan On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Carsten Gerlach daswaldh...@gmx.de wrote: Hello, Am Mittwoch 26. August 2009

Re: SHR clock reset

2009-08-28 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/28/09, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: I was wondering if shr-settings can get something like: Use cell timezone: * yes * no * ask --Vikas It can't, as FSO doesn't expose that over dbus. And I won't implement editing frameworkd.conf manually, as it's really ugly. why not? you

Re: Om 2009, NWA, keyboard?

2009-08-28 Thread Carsten Gerlach
Hello, Am Freitag 28. August 2009 22:06:12 schrieb Stefan Fröbe: cd /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards rm Default.kbd ln -sf Terminal.kbd Default.kbd Thank you, this works. And what do I have to do, that the keyboard starts directly when I start the terminal? Greetings, Carsten

Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

2009-08-28 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 08:23:46PM +0200, Jose Luis Perez Diez wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Steven **montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.com wrote: To clarify, is it possible to have the LED's on while in suspend at all?  Or does the software have to drive the LED high (and default

Re: blink AUX or power light while suspended?

2009-08-28 Thread arne anka
This post in that same thread mentions that leaving an LED on would halve the battery life while suspended: what it says is, _blinking_ would halve it, since blinking would mean resume/suspend/resume/suspend ... still, there's an issue with the aux led in some versions, which makes it eat a

Re: appraw - .desktop file patcher for fsoraw

2009-08-28 Thread Leonti Bielski
Just tried it - really great app! I could not believe a couple months ago that something like this would be possible some day - I remember having to run the script in terminal so the screen would not dim. Now with fsoraw and appraw it's so easy. BTW, can you make bitbake file for it so it can be

Re: Freerunner wireless internet

2009-08-28 Thread Davide Scaini
which kernel? you need the perfect blend :) e.g. i use a 2.6.28-rc4 with nwa. no a single freeze! On 8/28/09, Michele Brocco ssj2mi...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/26/09, Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Michele Broccossj2mi...@gmail.com wrote: [...] For me in

Re: Om2009 Maintainer

2009-08-28 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Angus, thanks a lot for your fantastic work on Om2009. It didn't go where we wanted it to go, but still covered a lot of ground. I guess I will switch to SHR too then (good instructions!) :-) Keep in touch, Wolfgang On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 01:09:49PM -0600, Angus Ainslie wrote: Hi All, After

apt-portal import opkg repos :) some comments

2009-08-28 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
Meanwhile the design, and the server is going on I was working on the backend and I hope this will help Attached is the adaptation of apt2sql to work on opkg repositories opkg2sql.py. now at least it provided almost the same information as apt2sql I have succesfuly import the all architecture, but

Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) some comments

2009-08-28 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
the problem persist, so the conversion to ascii doesn't solve it, the problematic package description is pyelf-sudoku, it seems that is not on UTF-8 nor ascii, is that posible? Can any one on SHR mantainers take a look on this and fix it?, surelly the origin is in the description on the bb file

New Freerunner Owner wants to help out!

2009-08-28 Thread Alex Teiche
Hello Everyone, I have had my Freerunner for 2-3 Months now(A6 no buzzfix), and I feel like I finally have the time to help out:) I sent an email a while ago asking about peoples recommendations for developing a new chat app, but I never found the time to get started. I am 100% self taught, but

Re: Showroom hosting , roadmap draft design

2009-08-28 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
snip Please comment if you like it or not (I know it's not perfect, just an idea). Here comes the png: http://ji-xiansheng.de/tmp/om_packages_mockup.png jxs My comments on the mokup some of them will be related to the coding effort to reach some of your proposal and what I think it should

Re: Showroom hosting , roadmap draft design

2009-08-28 Thread Bernd Prünster
Fabian Killus schrieb: I did a quick mockup of how I would like to have such a showroom look like. The traditional openmoko colors were used. Please comment if you like it or not (I know it's not perfect, just an idea). Here comes the png: http://ji-xiansheng.de/tmp/om_packages_mockup.png

Re: New Freerunner Owner wants to help out!

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hello there, great to see people want to help! My short answer ( others give theirs :) SHR (unstable) is currently the most used distro: http://doodle.com/sd2c8d8snr23eeqq There are people needed to work on SHR testing, that currently is in unusable state - this makes the whole SHR distro a bit

Re: apt-portal import opkg repos :) some comments

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
David, awesome work there! Can't wait to see you release the devel version of the repo. Nice spotting broken pyelf-sudoku, I hope it'll get fixed soon. And I also hope the dpkg-branch could live in the original apt-portal project to avoid too much division. It sound's a bit nasty to me to write