Tilman Baumann wrote:
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
Patrick Davila wrote:
http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/04/22/side-by-side-video-windows-mobile-and-embedded-linux/
You have to admit the bling looks pretty.
Just a question: the widgets shown are they running on X?
It seems they
On Wednesday 02 April 2008 18:32, Tom Cooksey wrote:
On Sunday 30 March 2008 13:42:23 Harald Welte wrote:
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 07:46:52PM +0100, joerg wrote:
Am Do 27. März 2008 schrieb Lally Singh:
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Somebody
Tom Cooksey wrote:
I had those questions too, I think that when 3D specs of the Glamo chip
will be available, it will be possible to make some 3D-accelerated
tasks, but I've no idea about the performances of this chip. Anyway I
don't think it's so great...
Right, but because it is local to the
Mark Haury wrote:
Marcin Juszkiewicz openembedded at haerwu.biz
mailto:community%40lists.openmoko.org?Subject=FreeRunner%20delayed%20a%20further%206%20months%3F%21%3F%21%3F%3FIn-Reply-To=47DBEEE9.3090305%40gmail.com
wrote on Sun Mar 16 11:02:12 CET 2008
Dnia Saturday 15 of March 2008, Mark
clare wrote:
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008, Lorn Potter wrote:
The community has... it has put Qtopia on the device and made it
work very reasonably, I think.
The 4.3 branch is in bug fix mode, so nothing substantial there. Most
work is being done for 4.4
The latest binary for Neo from
clare wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Lorn Potter wrote:
Actually, for the 02, they are still working out the _hardware_.
Except if you try to put your own system on there, a lot of the
hardware is not going to work.
That's because the tablet devices hardware are not well documented
Trolltech released Qtopia Phone 4.3.1 today, and with it, a new flash
image and
vmware based open source Qtopia SDK for the Neo.
http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/
GPL Qtopia source code can be downloaded from
ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/source
Enjoy.
--
Lorn 'ljp' Potter
Paul Eggleton wrote:
Lorn Potter wrote:
Trolltech released Qtopia Phone 4.3.1 today, and with it, a new flash
image and vmware based open source Qtopia SDK for the Neo.
Thanks Lorn.
Could you also perhaps briefly mention what's new in this release?
Cheers,
Paul
http://doc.trolltech.com
One of the htc-linux guys ported embeddedkonsole/konsole 4 to Qtopia.
I have done some more work on it for the Neo and created a qpk of it for the
Neo running Qtopia, and put it up at qtopia.net
Enjoy.
--
Lorn 'ljp' Potter
Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES, Trolltech
so others can
take advantage of the improvements too.
�
thx
all the changes are in tsdogs branch. Still looking into the input
method not closing.
goxbixlive
2008/2/11, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
One of the htc-linux guys ported embeddedkonsole/konsole
On Friday 01 February 2008 09:31, Ilkka Urtamo wrote:
Hi
I got my neo last week (and very happy with it btw). I have it up and
running nicely and I am now thinking where to contribute.
Wiki is saying that there are plans for BT in neo but does not specify
any details on that.
I would be
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
http://trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2008-01-28.4605718236
Hm. What does this mean to the Qt distribution for the Neo? What does
that mean to Maemo? Which one will be abandoned in the long run? Or will
they merge? Or Qt for Nokia 810?
Zeth Green wrote:
Back to the topic, I am interested in OpenMoko for two reasons. Firstly, and
most importantly, as has been previously expressed, the current Android
platform proposals and similar Linux phones such as motorola's own Linux
platform are thoroughly uninteresting to me so far,
左 国坤 wrote:
Hi, Nick
tks for your advice.
how can i kill the gsm function in software level?
if using openmoko fw, the gsm can be turned down easily, but when using
Qtopia, it seems no menu to kill
gsm module or process. Maybe I have to do some configure before build Qtopia
source, if it
Lorn Potter wrote:
左 国坤 wrote:
Hi, Nick
tks for your advice.
how can i kill the gsm function in software level?
if using openmoko fw, the gsm can be turned down easily, but when using
Qtopia, it seems no menu to kill
gsm module or process. Maybe I have to do some configure before build
左 国坤 wrote:
Hi, Lorn,
thank you for your suggestions.
I have switched to Aireplane mode after add alsactl -f /etc/gsmhandset
restore to /etc/init.d/qpe on Line 64.
and then restart device. But now no any call can be received and when do a
out call, a warning tell me
'You can't make a
左 国坤 wrote:
Dear Lorn,
tks for your reply.
Where can I DL your snapshot?
Sorry for my no more information about this.
Best Regards.
George
I am still working on voip, once I know it works for the Neo, I will put
a new snapshot up at qtopia.net, and will let you know.
--
Lorn
Barry Steele wrote:
Hi,
I just took delivery of a neo1973 (I'm in Australia btw, Sydney).
I have inserted the microSD and SIM cards and booted the machine up.
I get the boot logo and then Linux tries to start but I get the following:
Kernel Panic- not syncing: No init found. Try passing init=
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Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
0n Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 08:55:53AM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote:
The neo does not come with a root filesystem, so you'll have to flash one.
For me, Qtopia images from qtopia.net work great :)
Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me
andy selby wrote:
On 16/01/2008, Wilkinson, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, OpenMoko newb (waiting for FreeRunner release) - so bare with me.
Why would I use Qtopia images as opposed to OpenMoko images ?
I haven't flashed an openmoko image in a while so I'm not sure how
easy it is to get
左 国坤 wrote:
Hi, all
I am using VOIP by compile Qtopia 4.3.1 Open source for Neo1973 Phase1.
I need your help to clear some problems.
1, Incoming call
ringtone OK, Answer OK, Hold OK, But No VOICE from Caller, and vice versa.
2, Out Call
Keeping with 'Dialing' status, NO Call Tone,
Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
From what I can tell the noise comes and goes. When I'm in a good signal
area I really don't hear it but when I'm in a bad signal area it's very
loud. I asked Lorn Potter what he thought and he said it was probably a
software issue.
If I was told
Nick Guenther wrote:
Hijacking a bit:
for the record, all thunder does is write
fast_cccv or closed to
/sys/devices/platform/s3c2410-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0008/chgmode
depending on what mode you want, and wrap that up in a nice OM GUI.
Any hope for a qtopia version?
I can make a script
GoXbox Live wrote:
Hi.
I have made a Qtopia image for the Neo1973. The image is quite same as
the ones Lorn Potter releases, but mine has added two gps applications.
I have made a couple of screenies here:
http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/Neo1973/screenshots/RoadGPS.jpg and
http
is quite same as
the ones Lorn Potter releases, but mine has added two gps applications.
I have made a couple of screenies here:
http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/Neo1973/screenshots/RoadGPS.jpg and
http://www.linuxtogo.org/~goxboxlive/Neo1973/screenshots/Roadmap-1.jpg
http
Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
I've been using the latest image from qtopia.net since it was
uploaded. I just realized today when I tried to send a text that the
keyboard isn't predicting anything. I checked in languages and english
is selected. The predictive keyboard comes up when I go to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting clare [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
english is selected. The predictive keyboard comes up when I go to
type a message but it just doesn't predict anything. Any ideas?
Give Thanks - sorry I couuldn't resist...
clare
Kai Winter wrote:
Very good... The SIM card seems to be recognized on every start and
phone calls also work ;)
But still I can't create a working GPRS connection. Is this a general
problem or am I doing something wrong?
Nope. It hasn't been implemented yet. Qtopia uses GPRS through the
Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote:
Wiadomość napisana w dniu Nov 27, 2007, o godz 9:33 AM, przez Lorn Potter:
I just uploaded a new Qtopia snapshot image to the downloads section
of Qtopia.net. This introduces the new Cruxus mediaengine, which has a
few plugins already, which include libmad, tremor
On Friday 23 November 2007, AVee wrote:
On Thursday 22 November 2007 10:56, Shaul Kedem wrote:
Hi,
One of his ways out of this is Google releasing the source and
someone else compiling for ARMv4. now google said they will open the
source (they have no choice, its GPLv2) so I'd wait and
AVee wrote:
On Monday 19 November 2007 14:54, Marcelo Lira wrote:
Free software is worth encouraging. Status quo closed source is not.
So, this is a problem, but it is ok to use free software to help the growth
of a company that profits in selling licenses for closed source software?
Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
Lorn Potter wrote:
If you look at the development, both Nokia and Openmoko 'runs the show'
and has the last say on their respective platforms, not the community.
It is perfectly reasonable to me that Nokia and FIC get to decide the
software that's installed
William Weinberg wrote:
OCCAM'S RAZR - One ought not to multiply entities without necessity.
VENT
Why does the world need yet another mobile Linux knitting circle? Just
because you can buy a domain name doesn't mean you should mint new .orgs.
Sigh.
Let's all fight fragmentation with more
Marcelo Lira wrote:
From my POV, when people at OpenMoko decided on GTK for its paltform
they are giving developers the ability to participate and influence
*directly* on its development, and create great apps, both opensource
and proprietary, without paying any license fees. The Nokia
Marcelo Lira wrote:
License fees for Qtopia (and Qt) are a pittance compared to the fees of
even one engineer for one year for any company
Yes I agree with you before you said it:
Look that the pricing is not the most importante issue
You can influence directly the development of Qtopia
rukhsana ansari wrote:
Also, the default VOIP application that comes with Trolltech's QPE4.3
image for the Neo does not have sound working.
This is a known issue. We haven't added QAudioState switching to the
needed parts.
--
Lorn 'ljp' Potter
Software Engineer, Systems Group, MES,
John Locke wrote:
Hello,
I was running Qtopia for 5 or 6 weeks, and under that, I was getting
about 5 hours of time tops, whether I used the phone or not. The battery
indicator has 5 bars, and after a good 4 hours, there would still be 3
bars left (60%, or so you might think). But by that
Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
Lorn,
I just flashed over the latest image you uploaded. Upon receiving a
call, the phone does not ring, I cannot hear the other person they
cannot hear me and the alarm clock doesn't ring. Odd thing though is
that when I place a
Zalunin Pavel wrote:
Yeah, I think, that greenphone today is not actually project, because
now Compulab created hw platform for creating smartphones for $2300 . It
has sensor big sensor panel.
And of couse OpenMoko Neo 1973 is better than greenphone. Qt released
greenphone, but not upgraded
Ryan Prior wrote:
Nope, no trick. QTopia just doesn't have support for power saving on
Neo1973 last I heard, so the battery you're life is the battery life
everybody's getting. It is an issue that will be resolved, though.
It does have support for resume/suspend. We just turn it off by
Openmoko wrote:
Hi,
I've started a little project: to make a keypad where it's not required to
use the stylus, i.e. the fingers should be used instead.
The plan is to make an alternative to the matchbox keyboard so that the new
keypad can be used both in terminal, for texting etc.
So far I've
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow! With qtopia I can actually use my neo! Battery life sucks, but oh
well..
One thing tho - I cant play mp3s it says media type not supported..any
ideas as to why or where to look for a more specific error message? wavs
are fine, but mp3s dont work
Thats because
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 17:21, Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
I posted this in the forum but never received a response. Any possibility
of an official ipkg repo from trolltech so we don't have to keep
reflashing? I've actually been using qtopia on my neo as an everyday phone
and I hate to
Heilpern, Mark wrote:
Hi Lorn,
Thanks for the update one problem though. In my case (and presumably
the case for others), I'm not normally inserting a SIM. If I wait long
enough will the lock time out since the network isn't going to register?
Failing that, is there a configuration file I
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 17:21, Richard Reichenbacher wrote:
I posted this in the forum but never received a response. Any possibility
of an official ipkg repo from trolltech so we don't have to keep
reflashing? I've actually been using qtopia on my neo as an everyday phone
and I hate to
I have uploaded a Qtopia snapshot version flash image for the Neo.
You can get it from here:
http://www.qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php
a brief change log:
* fixed audiostate handling (including head[sets/phones])
* updated kernel to 2.6.22.5
* fixed screen dimming/blanking.
* ringtones
Michael Welter wrote:
I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I performed
the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos (like you see
with two opposing mirrors).
I used a wrong alsa state in the Qtopia tech preview image, which has an
echo problem (sidetone),
Michael Welter wrote:
Lorn Potter wrote:
Michael Welter wrote:
I was making some test calls using the Neo and Qtopia. When I
performed the echo test (+13034144978 x820) I got repeating echos
(like you see with two opposing mirrors).
I used a wrong alsa state in the Qtopia tech preview
Carlo E. Prelz wrote:
Subject: Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973
Date: mar 25 set 07 08:18:31 +0200
Quoting Dani Anon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
- But QT is not free (as in beer) for commercial usage
This is not the only reason why Qtopia is sub-optimal.
It's not a reason at all.
Dani Anon wrote:
Yep, but there's this undeniable fact that having 0 entry cost invites
a whole new class of developers that you wouldn't have otherwise. I
think we could perfectly choose QTopia and just handicap commercial
developers, either of the options is better than having two options.
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 25.09.2007 um 17:20 schrieb Dani Anon:
But hey I like how you conveniently left unanswered my comment about
how the FBUI and DirectFB projects exist solely to remove the X server
overhead. Can you explain to me and them why they are wrong and how
they have
Dani Anon wrote:
On 9/25/07, Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:32:46 +0200, Dani Anon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/25/07, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Carlo E. Prelz wrote:
Subject: Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973
Date: mar 25 set 07 08:18
Piotr Duda wrote:
I have to admit qtopia is quite nice (sounds does not work for me right now and
Updated flash image is pending.
Ive managed to hang it after first 10min of intense clicking;) but I vote for
the Openmoko, for the openness never seen before in mobiles, from the very
begining
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote:
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 22:58:00 Lorn Potter wrote:
Not X11 like all other systems. This has better performance and is in my
eyes the perfect solution for embedded devices.
There is no great performance difference between x11 and fb.
As long as X11 renders to FB
Thomas Wood wrote:
All in all, the great thing about OpenMoko and the Neo1973 is that
you're free to choose whatever path you wish to take. If you want to use
Qtopia on your Neo1973 then you are more than welcome to do so! There
are many many different Linux distributions and probably almost as
A couple other differences, QT is C++ based, whereas GTK is C based,
so depending on what your preferences are... Also, isn't GTK licenesed
as LGPL, whereas QT is GPL? So commercial developers will need to pay
for a seperate license for QT if they make non-GPL apps, whereas GTK's
license is more
Giles Jones wrote:
Mauro Iazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
before someone beats me to it.
http://trolltech.com/company/newsroom/announcements/press.2007-09-17.9260755578
Ironic given one of their Greenphone guys was slagging the OpenMoko project a
while back.
That greenphone guy was me.
Michael Schmidt wrote:
Thanks,
but why is the Neo phone not a small laptop? that all can be
installed, at least for the needed libraries.
So a GTK gui still makes sense...
Greenphone then can as well join OPENMOKO platform, and if greenphone
uses only QT, is then the GTK application working?
I think that the GTK front end for the Neo has a lot of potential that
the Qtopia front end may miss, so a strategy that borrows from both
systems would be good for us early adopters.
Er, the dev kit appears to be missing openssl, which could be a problem.
Also, announcements aside, I don't
Tilman Baumann wrote:
Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:45:51 +0200, Mauro Iazzi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hate to say it but in my experience at least, its a dream developing
apps using QT esp given the nice IDE in comparison to using GTK. QT
just has the docs and
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
Dnia piątek, 24 sierpnia 2007, wim delvaux napisał:
Knowing that the device is now about 6 months late and looking at the
overall stability and completeness of the GUI (List of issues is still
long perhaps too long ?) I wonder if it would not
Tilman Baumann wrote:
I like Qtopie too. Especially considering how well they could handle
embedded guis for years.
But in reallity. qt and c++ is a limitation. Look how far Opie was
evolved during the last years and how god id was from the beginning. But
it still was more or less
off list.
Just between you and me... there will be some great announcements in the
next few weeks.
wim delvaux wrote:
HI all,
Champion of open source and user of familiar on Ipaq when time was new, i
wonder if it was such a good idea to rewrite from scratch an entire GUI
system.
Brad Midgley wrote:
Lorn
Just between you and me... there will be some great announcements in the
next few weeks.
I think you just said the loud part quiet and the quiet part loud (a
simpsons reference :)
doh!
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On Sat, 25 Aug 2007, Tilman Baumann wrote:
Am 24.08.2007 um 21:03 schrieb Lorn Potter:
Tilman Baumann wrote:
I like Qtopie too. Especially considering how well they could
handle embedded guis for years.
But in reallity. qt and c++ is a limitation. Look how far Opie was
evolved during
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