Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Toni Mueller supp...@oeko.net wrote: Other things that I'd change if I were able to, off the top of my head: Hi Tony! A great list of issues and things to write down for further development. Please add the items here so they're all on one list and can easily

RE: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-22 Thread Tom Yates
On Thu, 21 May 2009, Staley, Daniel L wrote: 3.) This is a big one for me: When someone sends me a text message, the number does not get looked up in the addressbook. The lookup works fine when someone calls me, but not when an sms comes in. I just see the number instead of the name.

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 06:46:54PM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: Hi Angus, On Thu, 21.05.2009 at 10:03:50 -0600, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: The time gets updated from the network NTP, I assume? That'd be very much ok. Thats paroli talking to the frame work before the

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/5/20 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: I've been told that you can install the package udev-static-devices to reduce the boot time by ~30s (but if you have your home on /media/disk/bind-home, it'll not work, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009#Installing ) - stuff still under

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: how do we install this package? i can't find it in the om archives; is it from a separate feed, or does it need to be installed manually?

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/5/22 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: how do we install this package? i can't find it in the om archives; is it from a separate feed, or does it need to be installed manually?

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 21, 2009 07:22:15 am Robin Paulson wrote: that's confusing. i'm trying to install udev-static-devices, because apparently it will speed up boot time. it's not listed in the feeds which are on my neo (including 'http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/testing/armv4t/' as you listed

RE: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Staley, Daniel L
Hi, I decided I'd try to start using om2009 as my daily phone to help test it out. Here are a few of my comments (some I'm sure have been mentioned before) 1.) I really like the paroli look/interface! It is simple, responsive, and the contrast makes it easy to see. 2.) If you rotate the

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 04:24:33 -0400, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com wrote: Toni Mueller wrote: I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} Yeah, we want it all :) while flashing moko11 I've just discovered that Paroli doesn't let me set the date, but only the time. For

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 21, 2009 09:21:07 am Toni Mueller wrote: Hi, On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 04:24:33 -0400, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com wrote: Toni Mueller wrote: I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} Yeah, we want it all :) while flashing moko11 I've just discovered that

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, some more breakage, may be unrelated to Om2009, though... I've managed to mangle my menues, so now I can't get at the settings anymore, and the Terminal is also gone. I don't remember being able to completely disable suspend, and my micro SD card seems to be not properly recognized. At

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi Angus, On Thu, 21.05.2009 at 10:03:50 -0600, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: The time gets updated from the network NTP, I assume? That'd be very much ok. Thats paroli talking to the frame work before the framework is ready to respond. Ok. I'd prefer digital too and maybe

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 21, 2009 10:46:54 am Toni Mueller wrote: There was a dialogue in Paroli where I could adjust the time. There, I entered the time according to my local time zone, being unaware of the network time stuff. But I'd prefer to configure an /etc/localtime, like in any other *nix, too. Doing it

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-21 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, [ still exploring the thing w/o much of a clue... ] On Thu, 21.05.2009 at 17:21:07 +0200, Toni Mueller supp...@oeko.net wrote: * Illume (Paroli?) should have a reset to factory setting option, so I don't have to re-flash in case I made a mistake. after messing up too much and, as I

[Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} Yesterday I felt bold and flashed Om2009t3 onto my phone, but neither moko11 nor the new u-boot yet, though. Playing around without a SIM card installed, I found two problems that might be cleared up reading the website(s): 1. Once

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hiya, Toni Mueller wrote: Hi, I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} Yeah, we want it all :) Yesterday I felt bold and flashed Om2009t3 onto my phone, but neither moko11 nor the new u-boot yet, though. Playing around without a SIM card installed, I found two problems

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Toni Mueller supp...@oeko.net wrote: Hi, I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} Great :) 1. Once in the dialer, I couldn't exit. In the wiki it says: Go to the main screen of Paroli, then press the AUX button for two seconds. But I

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 04:24:33 -0400, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.com wrote: Toni Mueller wrote: I thought I'd just throw my 0.02 cents into the arena. ;} Yeah, we want it all :) no problem. ;) 1. Once in the dialer, I couldn't exit. In the wiki it says: Go to the main screen of

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 20.05.2009 at 12:26:46 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: I've been told that you can install the package udev-static-devices to reduce the boot time by ~30s (but if you have your home on /media/disk/bind-home, it'll not work, see

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Angus Ainslie
Hi Toni On May 20, 2009 02:11:07 am Toni Mueller wrote: 2. Instead of shutting down, pressing and holding the power button for an extended period simply powered off the device. I think this is already known and being worked on, but thought I'd mention it for completeness. If you hold the

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Angus Ainslie
So far, I didn't really care much for the different keyboards, but if I can have a wish, I'd like response times like the current keyboard in Paroli gives (ie, it immediately gives results as fast as I can type), not as sluggish with 1-2 second pauses between key presses, like in Om2008.12,

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: Hi Toni On May 20, 2009 02:11:07 am Toni Mueller wrote: 2. Instead of shutting down, pressing and holding the power button for an extended period simply powered off the device. I think this is already known and being

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Reading that wishes are not encouraged at this time, I'd probably better not hold my breath, though. That has changed a bit. We are now encouraging the community to create a wish list. What we also need the community to do is implement the wish list.

Re: [Om2009] testing Release 3: first impressions

2009-05-20 Thread Angus Ainslie
On May 20, 2009 09:14:56 am Risto H. Kurppa wrote: This is great to hear Angus, that actually OM will also include some solutions from the community - I guess it means we might have a change of shipping a more complete distro, not only the very minimal, almost working stuff. Is there a