Re: ATT is cruising for a bruising

2007-09-18 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:03:05 +0200, Raphaël Jacquot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem was that their three Iphones were racking up a bill for data charges using foreign phone charges. The Iphone regularly updates e-mail, even while it's off, so that all the messages will be available

Re: ATT is cruising for a bruising

2007-09-18 Thread Sander van Grieken
On Monday 10 September 2007 12:47:26 Giles Jones wrote: Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : This not because Apple or ATT are evil. It's actually a bug (or call it a design shortcoming) and could happen to anyone. I'd actually call it ignorance or lack of information from Apple.

Re: ATT is cruising for a bruising

2007-09-18 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Monday 10 September 2007 12:18:39 Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: Iphone's international plan in 29 countries, mostly in Europe, costs $24.99 for 20 megabytes. Which isn't even tha tbad considering my telco wants 5 CHF (roughly 4USD) per month. I meant to say MB, obviously. signature.asc

Re: ATT is cruising for a bruising

2007-09-18 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Monday 10 September 2007 12:03:05 Raphaël Jacquot wrote: Normally it does not cost US users for domestic data transfers, but the Iphone's international plan in 29 countries, mostly in Europe, costs $24.99 for 20 megabytes. Which isn't even tha tbad considering my telco wants 5 CHF (roughly

Re: ATT is cruising for a bruising

2007-09-11 Thread Steve
Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:03:05 +0200, Raphaël Jacquot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem was that their three Iphones were racking up a bill for data charges using foreign phone charges. The Iphone regularly updates e-mail, even while it's off, so that all the

ATT is cruising for a bruising

2007-09-10 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
http://theinquirer.net/?article=42235 But then the Baby Bells are gonners, init?!? By Nick Farrell: Monday 10 September 2007, 07:53 A HUMAN called Jay Levy says he has been stung by Apple's iPhone pact with ATT after he took an Iphone on a Mediterranean cruise. They didn't use their phones,

Re: ATT is cruising for a bruising

2007-09-10 Thread Giles Jones
Alexey Feldgendler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : This not because Apple or ATT are evil. It's actually a bug (or call it a design shortcoming) and could happen to anyone. I'd actually call it ignorance or lack of information from Apple. Apple like to make things simple even though the

Re: ATT is cruising for a bruising

2007-09-10 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:47:26 +0200, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenMoko should probably include some system-wide network access management that avoids huge roaming bills. Quite simply, build in a data counter that you can enter the cost of a data unit and have the phone show you

Re: ATT is cruising for a bruising

2007-09-10 Thread Richard Bennett
On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:06:02 +0200, Sander van Grieken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: wifi+in china - use Tor Maybe better just not use email at all in that case: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/10/misuse_of_tor_led_to_embassy_password_breach/ ___

Re: ATT is cruising for a bruising

2007-09-10 Thread Giles Jones
Sander Van Grieken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : Nah it should be more advanced than that. True, but start with the basics. You have to build the logging into the GPRS code. GPRS+roaming - only check mail once a day, only download headers. no images download when browsing GPRS+no roaming -