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Subject: Re: Price of the Freerunner published?
ramsesoriginal wrote:
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
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of the Freerunner published?
ramsesoriginal wrote:
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
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Christian Beier ha scritto:
Am Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:48:10 +0100
schrieb Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What we Europeans would need is a FIC
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jonathan Spooner wrote:
I would of thought in the EU you'd need a supplier who is big enough to
bring over GTA02s by the container-load, not in 10s. Its the only way
to keep the price down everywhere else.
We
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
Andy Powell wrote:
TRIsoft 399$ would make 257 EUR
TRIsoft Shipping from China / Taiwan / US appr. $70 to Europe
TRIsoft is $469, makes 302 EUR
TRIsoft plus 19% VAT is 360 EUR for a self import at the actual price.
Well, I don't think that a seller buys the
. And there
will be a discount.
Steve
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Subject: Re: Price of the Freerunner published?
ramsesoriginal
Having lived in the US and Europe...
1) We usually do pay shipping from China. It's usually built into the cost
of the product so it's hard to say exactly what it is. I would guess less
than $10 a unit.
2) We do not have VAT in the US. Closest thing we have to it is sales tax.
Most states have
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Christian Beier ha scritto:
Am Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:48:10 +0100
schrieb Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What we Europeans would need is a FIC subsidiary somewhere here,
As I read FIC has some
On Thursday 20 March 2008 16:05, Stroller wrote:
snip
But we must remember that an importer has to tie his own money up in
stock (money that could otherwise be earning interest for him) and
gamble with the currency exchange rates. If he buys when the dollar
is at 1:X and the exchange rate
ramsesoriginal wrote:
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Christian Beier ha scritto:
Am Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:48:10 +0100
schrieb Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What we Europeans would need is a FIC subsidiary somewhere here,
As I
ramsesoriginal ha scritto:
The same also holds true if (and here comes the crazy part: correct me
if it's illegal) someone want's to buy a bunch of Freerunners (let's
say 10), customize them (with custom themes, programs, settings, maybe
even pre-filled data, some additional hardware, case mods,
On Mittwoch, 19. März 2008, Carlo E. Prelz wrote:
Quoting Peter Trapp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Well, I've paid 300€ (=300$) for Neo1973 even without any reseller and
group purchasing with two other guys to save shipping costs (to
Germany)!!
So, where is the big problem?
You can go to
On Friday 21 March 2008 11:01:37 Andy Powell wrote:
Actually the best way to handle that is to buy currency at a fixed,
guaranteed price. ukforex (no affiliaton) do this sort of thing. I don;t
understand why more people don't do it. If you're importing stuff on a
regular basis it just makes
On 21 Mar 2008, at 10:01, Andy Powell wrote:
On Thursday 20 March 2008 16:05, Stroller wrote:
snip
But we must remember that an importer has to tie his own money up in
stock (money that could otherwise be earning interest for him) and
gamble with the currency exchange rates. If he buys when
Definite cultural problem within the open source/free software
community. People use it for both definitions of 'free', and complain
heavily over everything that isn't free (in $$). Small companies
need to account for the risks they're taking for the community in
their margins, otherwise they
Am Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:48:10 +0100
schrieb Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What we Europeans would need is a FIC subsidiary somewhere here,
As I read FIC has some branch in Czech or Slovakia. Thing is: If you
ship a container €70 is definitely not the price per device.
You can help: motivate
Christian Beier ha scritto:
Am Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:48:10 +0100
schrieb Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What we Europeans would need is a FIC subsidiary somewhere here,
As I read FIC has some branch in Czech or Slovakia. Thing is: If you
ship a container €70 is definitely not the
On 20 Mar 2008, at 13:24, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
On 3/19/08, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
you have to pay the 19% even if you import by yourself (the 19%
are also on
the shipping fees).
That is not correct (at least here in Norway we do NOT pay VAT for the
shipping
Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to-brazil/
:
The price range for the Neo FreeRunner has been published, it's going
to be less than 400 USD — which is quite a substantial improvement
over the estimated 650
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Steven **
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to-brazil/
:
The price range for the Neo FreeRunner has been published, it's going
to be
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Steven **
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to-brazil/
:
The price range for the Neo FreeRunner has been published, it's going
to be
On Wednesday 19 March 2008, Steven ** wrote:
Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to-b
razil/
The price range for the Neo FreeRunner has been published, it's going
to be less than 400 USD — which is quite
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 16:10, Steven ** wrote:
Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to-b
razil/
The price range for the Neo FreeRunner has been published, it's going
to be less than 400 USD — which is
Subject: Re: Price of the Freerunner published?
Date: mer 19 mar 08 05:51:01 +0100
Quoting Sander van Grieken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
If I recall correctly, the initial Freerunner pricing was $450 for
the device and $600 for the devkit.
What I really hope is that the price in US
Oh wow, I've been paying a little bit of attention to those exchange
rates, but I hadn't realized it's gotten that bad.
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Subject: Re: Price of the Freerunner published?
Date: mer 19 mar 08 05:51:01 +0100
:
Subject: Re: Price of the Freerunner published?
Date: mer 19 mar 08 05:51:01 +0100
Quoting Sander van Grieken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
If I recall correctly, the initial Freerunner pricing was $450 for
the device and $600 for the devkit.
What I really hope is that the price
On Mittwoch, 19. März 2008, Lally Singh wrote:
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Steven **
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to
-brazil/
The price range for the Neo
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 6:40 PM, thomasg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since nobody seems to realize it, I guess I have to explain this.
1. Even the distributor has to pay shipping
2. 19% VAT in germany
3. x% additional fees (recycling, ...) in germany/europe
4. 2 years warranty in germany
5.
On Mittwoch, 19. März 2008, Andy Powell wrote:
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 16:10, Steven ** wrote:
Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to
-b razil/
The price range for the Neo FreeRunner has been
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 17:56, Andy Powell wrote:
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 16:10, Steven ** wrote:
Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to
-b razil/
The price range for the Neo FreeRunner has
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 17:56, Andy Powell wrote:
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 16:10, Steven ** wrote:
Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to
-b razil/
The price range for the Neo FreeRunner has
Vincent wrote:
2. 19% VAT in germany
3. x% additional fees (recycling, ...) in germany/europe
Regarding points 1, 2, 3 and 6 - doesn't the US have something similar?
2. I'm originally from Canada, but my experience in the US is that each
state, and sometimes within separate counties
Hi folks,
several days ago I got from www.pulster.de the price 399€ for the stock
unit, incl. shipment, taxes etc.
Am Mittwoch, den 19.03.2008, 19:58 +0100 schrieb Peter Trapp:
...
400USD != 400EUR
...
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mfg/br, christian
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29640 Schneverdingen
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Andy Powell wrote:
400USD != 400EUR
If this is an indication of the pricing for Europe, please arrange for some
European versions to get shipped to the USA where we can buy them and have
them shipped to Europe.
I do agree with you...!
--
Treviño's World - Life and Linux
Andy Powell wrote:
TRIsoft 399$ would make 257 EUR
TRIsoft Shipping from China / Taiwan / US appr. $70 to Europe
TRIsoft is $469, makes 302 EUR
TRIsoft plus 19% VAT is 360 EUR for a self import at the actual price.
Well, I don't think that a seller buys the shipping of each phone $70...
Maybe
Subject: Re: Price of the Freerunner published?
Date: Wed 19 Mar 08 07:58:50PM +0100
Quoting Peter Trapp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Well, I've paid 300€ (=300$) for Neo1973 even without any reseller and group
purchasing with two other guys to save shipping costs (to Germany
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
both US and EU must offer some sort of warranty.
I don't believe this is true. IIRC the EU requires sellers or
manufacturers to warranty items (or perhaps specific items) but
there's no such requirement in the USA (though
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