Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-17 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 5 Oct 2013 17:19:18 +0200 joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote: In the last 50 years I've seen only _one_ truly modular concept for electronic circuits that would basically meet the flexibility requirements you are asking for:

Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-17 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 05 Oct 2013 17:24:51 +0200 Raphael Wimmer raphael.wim...@ifi.lmu.de wrote: * The concept assumes that all components use a common communication backplane. This is not feasible, as a variety of voltages and communication protocols are in use in a typical phone (I2C, SPI, UART, USB,

Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-17 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Sat, 05 Oct 2013 15:00:07 -0400 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote: And it would be bulkier and more expensive than a non-modular phone, of course. http://components.arrow.com/part/search/buglabs The main cost in doing that is the plastic of the modules. Denis.

Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-08 Thread Davide Scaini
Someone was talking about a modular phone, right? Have a look at this (spoiler: it's not a phone ;) yet) http://www.redsharknews.com/technology/item/1123-this-could-be-the-biggest-advance-in-camera-design-for-a-decade Regards, d On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Kai Lüke

Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-05 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Pascal Gosselin pas...@aeroteknic.com wrote: If technically feasible That's the problem. -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak, dos http://dosowisko.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-05 Thread Pascal Gosselin
On 2013-10-05 11:06 AM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Pascal Gosselin pas...@aeroteknic.com wrote: If technically feasible That's the problem. What immediately jumps to my mind is the small number of pins for the modules, forcing everything to be based on

Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-05 Thread Ian Stirling
On 10/05/2013 04:04 PM, Pascal Gosselin wrote: While I understand the needs/wants of open hardware, the average smartphone user really couldn't care less. That's the core of the problem, lack of a large user base. HOWEVER, what a *lot* people seem to be interested in, is an open

Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-05 Thread joerg Reisenweber
In the last 50 years I've seen only _one_ truly modular concept for electronic circuits that would basically meet the flexibility requirements you are asking for: http://makezine.com/2011/12/08/the-braun-lectron-system-retro-circuit- dominoes/ /j -- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html

Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-05 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 05.10.2013 um 17:06 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak: On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Pascal Gosselin pas...@aeroteknic.com wrote: If technically feasible That's the problem. ++ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-05 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 05.10.2013 um 17:14 schrieb Pascal Gosselin: On 2013-10-05 11:06 AM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Pascal Gosselin pas...@aeroteknic.com wrote: If technically feasible That's the problem. What immediately jumps to my mind is the small number of pins

Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-05 Thread Raphael Wimmer
On Sat, 05 Oct 2013 17:04:24 +0200, Pascal Gosselin pas...@aeroteknic.com wrote: [...] If technically feasible, this project I believe stands the best chance of obtaining funding as the concept has wide appeal. Interesting long-term vision: maybe. Short-term replacement for GTA04: no. I

Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-05 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 05.10.2013 um 17:19 schrieb joerg Reisenweber: In the last 50 years I've seen only _one_ truly modular concept for electronic circuits that would basically meet the flexibility requirements you are asking for: http://makezine.com/2011/12/08/the-braun-lectron-system-retro-circuit-

Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
There are numerous threads on Reddit that explain very well why this is not feasible [1,2,many] This is bogus. It is feasible. Just not quite in the way those people ask for it. E.g. you wouldn't have just a CPU module, and instead you'd have a module that combines the CPU with many other

Re: The open hardware phone project that's had the most interest

2013-10-05 Thread Kai Lüke
Hi, GTAx is allready more extensible than normal smartphones because of usb host mode. And any different fast data connector I think about might allow an attacker to get access to your system, like the hacks with firewire. I also think it would be nice to have modular phone, but this is a huge