Re: anyone has tried fnop?

2012-03-15 Thread Alex Samorukov
On 03/12/2012 08:14 PM, Kosa wrote: A just found this site and wondered if anyone has tried this OS? http://phones.fnop.net/ Pricing: Starts at 400EUR, depending on features and NOT including the hardware (phone). And no link to SVN. And remote destuction... I think it is designed for

Status of the GTA04 Group Tour

2012-03-15 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Just two weeks left over to get subscribers, makes me think that it is time to look at the order indicator. We have achieved 41%. This is a big step forward after the 25% during FOSDEM time and shows that we have a growing support. Thanks to all those who see a future for the GTA04! On the

One GTA04A3 (Early Adopter) board for sale

2012-03-15 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi all, we have one GTA04A3 board (Ser #0024) that we do not need any more for further experiments. It has two bugs - one is the well known power-down issue of the UMTS module that has been fixed in the A4 boards. And, the PCM voice interface appears to have a broken wire which can't be repaired.

Keyboard for GTA04

2012-03-15 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
During the Openmoko Stammtisch Munich yesterday, we have once again discussed options to build a special GTA04 keyboard. And now I think we have found a way to really square the circle. The square being functionality and the circle being cost. The idea is to use: * off-the shelf pushbutons

Re: [Gta04-owner] Keyboard for GTA04

2012-03-15 Thread Gennady Kupava
Hi, Nicolaus, Actually detached keyboard is almost useless for phone. It is not possible to use it any conditions expect then phone lays on some surface and you not holding it. This is because if you using one hand to hold phone, you have one one hand free. Holding and using keyboard with one

Re: [Gta04-owner] Keyboard for GTA04

2012-03-15 Thread Martin Jansa
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:09:09PM +0400, Gennady Kupava wrote: Hi, Nicolaus, Actually detached keyboard is almost useless for phone. It is not possible to use it any conditions expect then phone lays on some surface and you not holding it. This is because if you using one hand to hold

Re: [Gta04-owner] Keyboard for GTA04

2012-03-15 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 15.03.2012 um 12:09 schrieb Gennady Kupava: Hi, Nicolaus, Actually detached keyboard is almost useless for phone. It is not Well, the idea is not a detached keyboard but a detachable (so that it simplifies mechanical construction). possible to use it any conditions expect then phone

Re: [Gta04-owner] Keyboard for GTA04

2012-03-15 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 15.03.2012 um 13:29 schrieb Martin Jansa: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:09:09PM +0400, Gennady Kupava wrote: Hi, Nicolaus, Actually detached keyboard is almost useless for phone. It is not possible to use it any conditions expect then phone lays on some surface and you not holding it.

Re: [Gta04-owner] Keyboard for GTA04

2012-03-15 Thread Gennady Kupava
On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 13:41 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: And why not add some hooks or joints so that you can clip together both parts after detaching them? What would be ok for me! But may be slider is not so complex? Put the battery and sim into lower part, some rails and it is

Re: [Gta04-owner] Keyboard for GTA04

2012-03-15 Thread Gerald A
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.comwrote: I fully agree on this, I have bought smaller keyboard (with USB cable) for freerunner and I don't use it very much, because as you said it's not really usable e.g. while sitting in train and trying to balance phone +

Re: Keyboard for GTA04

2012-03-15 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 15 March 2012 12:57:23 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: During the Openmoko Stammtisch Munich yesterday, we have once again discussed options to build a special GTA04 keyboard. And now I think we have found a way to really square the circle. The square being functionality and the

Re: [Gta04-owner] Keyboard for GTA04

2012-03-15 Thread Martin Jansa
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 09:56:01AM -0400, Gerald A wrote: On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.comwrote: I fully agree on this, I have bought smaller keyboard (with USB cable) for freerunner and I don't use it very much, because as you said it's not really

Re: Keyboard for GTA04

2012-03-15 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 15.03.2012 um 15:10 schrieb Al Johnson: On Thursday 15 March 2012 12:57:23 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: During the Openmoko Stammtisch Munich yesterday, we have once again discussed options to build a special GTA04 keyboard. And now I think we have found a way to really square the

Re: [Gta04-owner] Keyboard for GTA04

2012-03-15 Thread Kai Lüke
Hey, I would like to have it rather swinging out than sliding. Then you could lock it at ca. 180° (with a bar or something) and by using the full back area of the case, it would be big enough for a expanded layout. As connector I would like USB more than bluetooth, but don't know how thin a cable

Re: Keyboard for GTA04

2012-03-15 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 15 March 2012 15:30:34 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 15.03.2012 um 15:10 schrieb Al Johnson: On Thursday 15 March 2012 12:57:23 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: During the Openmoko Stammtisch Munich yesterday, we have once again discussed options to build a special GTA04

Perfect on screen keyboard?

2012-03-15 Thread Radek Polak
Hi, while we are talking about hw keyboard, it would be also nice to discuss software keyboard. My impression is that nobody really tried to make a perfect keyboard. So here is my idea: the has standard qwery layout. The keys are twice as high as wide. Two keys are always grouped in one

Re: [Gta04-owner] Keyboard for GTA04

2012-03-15 Thread Neil Jerram
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes: Now comes the key idea: having a shapeways printed case makes it possible to think about a keyboard built into a replacement battery cover. It makes it a little thicker than normal, but you can detach it and use it as a keyboard. This

Re: Keyboard for GTA04

2012-03-15 Thread Joerg Eesmann
Hi, my idea would be a very stable leather case for the GTA4. I would attach a bluetooth keyboard to the cover, that the keyboard opposes the screen, if closed. The leather case should stable enough, that if it is open, you hold it with both hands, and type with your thumbs, while looking on your

Re: Perfect on screen keyboard?

2012-03-15 Thread Georg Drees
Hello, * On Mar 15, 2012 8:42 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: while we are talking about hw keyboard, it would be also nice to discuss software keyboard. [...] Any other ideas for nice and usable keyboards? I very much like the qwo keyboard: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qwo It

Re: [Gta04-owner] Keyboard for GTA04

2012-03-15 Thread EdorFaus
On 03/15/2012 01:41 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 15.03.2012 um 12:09 schrieb Gennady Kupava: This is because if you using one hand to hold phone, you have one one hand free. Holding and using keyboard with one hand is not possible. And why not add some hooks or joints so that you

Re: [Gta04-owner] Keyboard for GTA04

2012-03-15 Thread EdorFaus
On 03/16/2012 12:00 AM, EdorFaus wrote: clip it onto the side with the USB port use a standard USB keyboard module Aw, man... I just got this odd image in my head of a full-size standard qwerty keyboard with an angled docking port on the top - kinda like the iPod docks in some stereo