Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-26 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
I think there is a place for both Openmoko and Qtopia. Useful features and possibly even entire applications can be cloned/ported back and forth between the platforms. Artwork, sounds, etc can easily be shared. There is even place for more options to discuss. E.g. Objective-C + GNUstep +

OpenMoko as a free platform -was Qtopia for Neo

2007-09-26 Thread Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 17:07 +0200, AVee wrote: I'll use commercial app if they are worth the money. But i really don't see how someone developing a non-free (both in speech as in beer) should get their toolkit for free. When you expect people to pay for *your* software you should not be

Neo Developer Version

2007-09-26 Thread Andreas Hennig
Hello! Some more Phase 1 Neo's will be shiped end of september. Does somebody now, whether they will be GTA02 or GTA01? Thanks ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

RE: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-26 Thread thomas.cooksey
Can we please end this back and forth C vs. C++, Qt vs. Gtk, X11 vs no-X11, Openmoko vs Qtopia. I think most of us have seen plenty of these debates over the years and nothing constructive ever comes of them. As far as I'm concerned, this should have ended last week. The original question

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-26 Thread Tim Newsom
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 8:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I'm concerned, this should have ended last week. The original question asked was why continue with OpenMoko development when Qtopia is available, faster, more complete and stable?. It was debated and some pretty conclusive reasons

Unified PIM

2007-09-26 Thread thomas.cooksey
I guess my only comment is that while I don't really care which interface people use on their phones, it seems like the data interfaces should be the same... If I open up qtopia phone edition and look at my contacts or maybe even edit them and then close it down and open up my OM interface and

Re: Unified PIM

2007-09-26 Thread Joshua Layne
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:49:43 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess my only comment is that while I don't really care which interface people use on their phones, it seems like the data interfaces should be the same... If I open up qtopia phone edition and look at my contacts or maybe even

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-26 Thread Jonathon Suggs
Tim Newsom wrote: I guess my only comment is that while I don't really care which interface people use on their phones, it seems like the data interfaces should be the same... If I open up qtopia phone edition and look at my contacts or maybe even edit them and then close it down and open up

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-26 Thread ian douglas
Jonathon Suggs wrote: Tim Newsom wrote: the data interfaces should be the same... If I open up qtopia phone edition and look at my contacts or maybe even edit them and then close it down and open up my OM interface and look at them, they should be the same. All edit are visible.. No double

Re: Neo Developer Version

2007-09-26 Thread Ortwin Regel
Pretty sure they are GTA01 as we haven't heard anything about GTA02 being finalized and it isn't planned before October anyway. Ortwin On 9/26/07, Andreas Hennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! Some more Phase 1 Neo's will be shiped end of september. Does somebody now, whether they will be

Re: Neo Developer Version

2007-09-26 Thread Daniel Spies
I hope they don't send them out a few days before releasing GTA02. I would feel screwed... On Wednesday 26 September 2007 23:32:49 Ortwin Regel wrote: Pretty sure they are GTA01 as we haven't heard anything about GTA02 being finalized and it isn't planned before October anyway. Ortwin On

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-26 Thread Brad Midgley
Hi Sharing contacts, dates, etc is complicated enough that you should push for openmoko and qtopia to support a standards-based sync with an external server. Then it becomes a more generic problem of interoperability instead of an obscure feature request. Brad

Re: Neo Developer Version

2007-09-26 Thread Marco Barreno
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 11:54:54PM +0200, thus spake Daniel Spies: I hope they don't send them out a few days before releasing GTA02. I would feel screwed... If you have already placed an order, then they'll be shipping you a GTA01 and not GTA02, whenever they end up sending it. GTA02 will

Re: Neo Developer Version

2007-09-26 Thread ROULLAND bruno
hello, after a try on the shop on openmoko.com, there is an error after the first step... But the site will be rewrite so , we must waiting for the GTA02 2007/9/26, Daniel Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I hope they don't send them out a few days before releasing GTA02. I would feel screwed... On

Re: Neo Developer Version

2007-09-26 Thread Rod Whitby
We already know that there will be P0, P1, and P2 phases for GTA02, just like there was for GTA01 (see the wiki for the definition of these terms if you don't know them). The phones people are ordering now are GTA01 P1 models. We also have not heard any reports of P0 developers getting P0 GTA02

still having trouble getting Neo to boot Qtopia from SD

2007-09-26 Thread ian douglas
So to recap what I've tried, that doesn't work to get Qtopia on my SD card and boot from SD: I went to http://www.qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php and downloaded the three files under Qtopia for the Neo1973 Downloads, and unpacked them onto a 2GB microSD card, formatted as ext3: #