. But this is a topic for much much later -
let's get the firmware liberated first, using our existing GTA02s.
Just don't despair if you aren't one of the lucky GTA02 owners.
Viva la Revolucion,
Michael Spacefalcon,
formerly Michael Sokolov
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Harley Laue losinggenerat...@gmail.com wrote:
While I think the project you're working on is great, you come off
sounding petty using terms like Closedmoko. I /still/ don't think any
open hardware phone has come out without some kind of NDA attached to
some part (I could be wrong.)
My
Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote:
There is leaked TSM30 source code for this GSM chipset firmware...
Yes, that's exactly what I'm using as my starting point.
maybe there also is some documentation?
As far as hardware documentation goes, all of it is neatly gathered on
my FTP site:
/FreeCalypso code
base.
Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote:
right... now I remember - Michael Sokolov.
I am not using my old name any more, I go by Michael Spacefalcon now.
Yes, I know, my Ancient UNIX email address still has my old last name
as part of my login name - a login name
Alex Samorukov m...@os2.kiev.ua wrote:
Which country is that?
dprk ? :)
Yes, I love it.
SF
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Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote:
You moved from Canada to North Korea?
I have never lived in Canada. I don't live in North Korea either. In
fact, I don't live anywhere at all - being an active-duty
internationalist operative, I only *operate* in various countries,
working against their
Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:
But one day your GTA02 will stop working - it might fall on the floor or
whatever. GTA04 is only replacement -
Although it may be the only available replacement at the present
moment, it shouldn't remain that way for long. We, the FreeCalypso
community
Bob Ham r...@settrans.net wrote:
Please allow me to address a question to the community as a whole: if
you can produce a free phone then why aren't you? Do it! What are you
*waiting* for?
Well, as you've asked the community as a whole, without restrictive
language to exclude any particular
joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote:
I invite you to visit me at my home
If you meant it seriously, you might as well give your address or GPS
coords (by unicast if you prefer) - but I highly doubt that you meant
it seriously.
trying to force me to hand to you
Hand to me? What me?
Nick openmoko-commun...@njw.me.uk wrote:
Your free phone idea appeals to me enormously, Michael.
Yay, one more supporter!
However, can GSM really be a base for secure communication anyway?
I see that after your post, the thread on the mailing list veered off
into a discussion of security.
Adam Bogacki adam.boga...@clear.net.nz wrote:
I have not been able to find working links to freecalypso-sw anywhere.
Not able to find *working* links? So the link I had posted earlier in
this thread:
ftp://ftp.ifctf.org/pub/GSM/FreeCalypso/snapshots/freecalypso-sw-SE52Fru5.tar.bz2
is not
Adam Bogacki adam.boga...@clear.net.nz wrote:
Now that I have dir 'freecalypso-sw-SE52Fru5' I am not quite sure what
to do.
Is there some documentation available, or a man page ?
No documentation has been written yet, because there is nothing to
document yet: all that's there is a FreeNucleus
Hello Om community,
I am very pleased to announce that after many years of searching, I
have finally found a copy of TI's firmware deliverable package for
their Leonardo development board, i.e., for their Calypso/Iota/Rita
chipset reference platform. It is the package which TI must have
given to
Norayr Chilingarian nor...@arnet.am wrote:
then flash into your GTA0x GSM modem
Wait, it works both on gta-02 and gta-04?
By GTA0x I meant GTA01 and GTA02. GolDeliCo' so-called GTA04 is
rather badly misnamed: GTA originally stood for GSM-TI-AGPS; thus a
device that does not use a GSM chipset
For those following the FreeCalypso project, I have just put out a
packaged release of my GSM flash reading/writing etc tools:
ftp://ftp.ifctf.org/pub/GSM/FreeCalypso/loadtools-r1.tar.bz2
Of course the source for these tools has been available all along in
my freecalypso-sw Hg repository on
Jose Luis Perez Diez jl...@escomposlinux.org wrote:
The procces to flash GSM firmware used linux, the serial port,
and the fluid binary see
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing#Manual_Update_.28GTA01.2C_GTA02.29_.2F_geek_way
Yes, and that exact same procedure should work just as well
Norayr Chilingarian nor...@arnet.am wrote:
Why not add information about free fw and loader to the mentioned wiki page?
So that people who are not in this mailing list, may know about this fw
and a free fc-load tool.
Adding the info to the wiki would be a good idea indeed, but there
would be
Ian Stirling openm...@mauve.plus.com wrote:
However, once anyone has used your work to change the IMSI of their
phone
I assume you meant IMEI. Phones don't have IMSIs, those are numbers
stored in SIM cards.
and you are aware of this,
Yes, I will most likely be aware of it, as I will
dmatthews.org m...@dmatthews.org wrote:
This is something I've quietly had an interest in for a year plus.
Yup, I remember you from 2011. :-)
I'd like to suggest that it would be beneficial not only to have some hand
holding for people that want to compile, but also sample binary for those
Norayr Chilingarian nor...@arnet.am wrote:
Okay, so first thing I did is I have compiled loadtools, as planned
right on freerunner.
[...]
After short build I have three binaries installed
fc-iram fc-loadtool fc-xram
I believe they will run.
Congrats, you have successfully navigated one
Norayr Chilingarian nor...@arnet.am wrote:
Hehe, flashed your image!
http://norayr.arnet.am/tmp/2013-11-09/Screenshot-2_patched.png
Nice!
Thanks a lot.
You're welcome. :)
I don't use gsm usually, I'll check how gprs works over gsm.
It did not work before, usually SHR did not want to
Wow, I went to bed after my last post, and when I got up this morning,
there had been a lively discussion between Norayr, Joerg and Nick!
As much as I would love to be proven wrong on this, I consider it
*very* unlikely that there is any functional defect in moko11 which
somehow gets magically
Hello Om community,
In the course of hacking TI GSM firmwares, I have come across something
that some of you may find interesting, or might even have some insight
into.
We all know that our good familiar Neo Freerunner (GTA02) was made in
two versions: one with 900/1800/1900 MHz bands, the other
joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote:
Bottom line: even 850MHz FR can do 900MHz but the reception is pretty poor=
though just sufficient in usual urban environment.
Hmm, interesting! Of course given the geographical theater I operate
in, my interest would be in going the other way
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:
So please think again if you want to upgrade your GTA02 with a GTA04A5 board.
Upgrade? Surely you must have meant downgrade - why would anyone in
his or her right mind voluntarily give up a device that is 100%
freeable down to the modem
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:
Why do you assume that your (IMHO unlawful) procedure done to free the
Calypso is not possible for a Qualcomm modem?
Because all modern baseband processors (MTK, Qualcomm etc) have ROM
bootloaders which perform cryptographic verification of
dmatthews.org m...@dmatthews.org wrote:
PuTTY is quite a decent (free as in beer) ssh client for windows
PuTTY is free as in speech too, i.e., it is bona fide free software -
not just free as in beer. Of course Windows isn't, but we are talking
about PuTTY, right?
VLR,
SF
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:
Not everybody is weighting the factor of freeable down to the modem equally
when calculating the relative position of two devices to decide between
upgrade and downgrade. You have a different weighting than me.
If freedom is not important to
joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote:
Please can you save me from reading those walls of text filled with [...]
Thinking about it more, I realize that my initial post in this thread
was more inflammatory than necessary. So I do apologize for posting
that on an emotional impulse without
For those who don't know what CSD is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_Switched_Data
Here is an AT command session log of me making a CSD call from my
GTA02 on T-Mobile USA:
at+cgmm
+CGMM: Neo1973 GTA02
OK
at+cgmr
+CGMR: FreeCalypso leo2moko port
OK
at+cops?
+COPS: 0,0,T-Mobile
OK
Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote:
There are tradeoffs everywhere. I think that having a 100% free
firmware for the cell-phone part is really great. Having an up to date
smartphone that runs Free Software is also great.
Hypothetically speaking, if someone would like to have a
David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org wrote:
I've done a bit of work, which I hope will encourage other people to give it
a test. There is a full write up at http://winterveldt.co.za/leo2moko.html,
with links to a distro I've prepared for the sole purpose of flashing your
freerunner's calypso -
Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani giacomomari...@yahoo.it wrote:
Hi David, Michael, all,
thanks a lot for your work, it is very emotional to see this
little piece of freedom rising!
You're welcome. :-)
I'm still not brave enough to risk my only (I mean in all my life time
so far) mobile phone, but
joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote:
That's a bold misconception. OM wiki isn't censored, it just gets cleaned of
SPAM and obviously incorrect AND hazardous info, like e.g. somebody suggesting
to run wear tests against NAND to verify its formatting.
But I still think that it would be
Norayr Chilingarian nor...@arnet.am wrote:
If someone has no backup of calibration data, can she use calibration
data from other phone?
Then we can send our data to that person. Or it won't work this way?
I probably don't understand it well.
joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org followed up:
Hello project followers,
The tool for examining flash file system images read out of TI-based
GSM devices (which include Openmoko GTA0x modems) has just been
released:
ftp://ftp.ifctf.org/pub/FreeCalypso/tiffs-iva-r1.tar.bz2
Aside from the naming and packaging change, the main functional
Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani giacomomari...@yahoo.it wrote:
Hi Comrade,
I can't find the FreeCalypso directory at
$ ftp ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG
For a moment I was wondering why are people going to that old FTP
site and not the new one at ftp.ifctf.org?, but then I realized that
I posted a bogus URL
David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org wrote:
Making a general purpose distro such as Qtmoko loadtools capable is likely to
be a non starter.
I agree in general, but see below for some finer points.
it's likely to be advisable to rip out all the audio stuff also.
That's where I need to provide
Norayr Chilingarian nor...@arnet.am wrote:
Does anyone know what will happen in a cellular network where there is
more than one device has the same IMEI. In other words, if we all
could change our IMEI numbers, and use one imaginary number, are there
technical reasons for network to not work.
Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani giacomomari...@yahoo.it wrote:
It's been easier than expected:
root@neo:~# . /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env
root@neo:/root# /etc/init.d/qtmoko-neo stop
root@neo:/mnt/nfs/root/ModemFFS/Backup# fc-loadtool -h gta02 /dev/ttySAC0
[...]
root@neo:/mnt/nfs/root/ModemFFS/Backup#
=?UTF-8?B?S2FpIEzDvGtl?= kaitobiaslu...@googlemail.com wrote:
thanks to the recent activies I also thought about IMEI yesterday
evening and it was fun that other's also did. Setting IMEI would still
be a nice feature.
A general purpose FFS editing kit for GTA01/02 modems, which will
include
Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani giacomomari...@yahoo.it wrote:
Here we are:
# diff -r michael-ffs my-ffs
Thank you for these diffs; explanation follows inline.
Binary files michael-ffs/Test/Production.bin and my-ffs/Test/Production.bin
differ
Yup, expected - if you hexdump this file, you'll see
Hello fellow freedom lovers,
I have just released the first version of the kit that allows a Neo
Freerunner user to set his/her IMEISV to any value of his/her choice.
Download it here:
ftp://ftp.ifctf.org/pub/GSM/GTA02/ffs-edit-kit-r1.tar.bz2
Operating instructions are inside the tarball. The
joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote:
you recall that single line I actually censored?
http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/all_version__CHANGELOG.txt
line 60, I assume.
(Must have been the only time
in my life I did this) In the changelogs, around moko5 or something.
joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote:
I have no idea, I took care about GSM firmware only much later. But I think
until the point in time when I was able to contract Dieter Spaar for OM, there
been significantly less knowhow about all that stuff inside OM than what you
demonstrate here.
openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) wrote:
Besides legal issues, I miss the thanks to Michaels effords.
Thanks, I appreciate the change in attitude from this previous post
of yours:
: From: openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster)
: To: community@lists.openmoko.org
: Subject: Re: Building a
Nick openmoko-commun...@njw.me.uk wrote:
Any more hints as to what additional freedom enhancements you have
planned?
* Pirelli DP-L10 has a bunch of extra chips supporting the WiFi/VoIP
and camera functions, chips for which there are no docs. I won't be
using any chips without docs in my
openm...@pulster.de (Christoph Pulster) wrote:
I remember adverts of Openmoko in capitals 100% FREE mobile.
that this was a false promise comes evident afterwards.
I wonder how many people forked over their $$$ for those expensive
Openmoko phones primarily in the hope that the bloody NDA would
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:
You are a Pied Piper of Hamelin.
I don't mind the role. Check out The Stolen Child, poem/song by
William Butler Yeats - I particularly like this rendition:
http://www.elvendrums.com/cddragon.php
VLR,
SF
Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote:
But there are other points of view. E.g. some people expect the phone ring
when friends/wife/customer calls.
Yes, that's exactly what I seek out of my cellphone too. And that is
why I require having the source for all sw/fw involved in this telephony
Nick openmoko-commun...@njw.me.uk wrote:
I'm going to the USA soon,
Do you know which part of USA?
and would ideally like to use my GTA02
there. It is a European 900/1800/1900MHz version (I presume - I
bought it 2nd hand - is there an easy way to check?).
As others have said, look at the
Nick openmoko-commun...@njw.me.uk wrote:
It's interesting to hear that 850MHz is a quite recent addition,
Just keep in mind that my idea of recent is within the last 10 y,
at least in this case; most other people's definition of this word
probably means a shorter time span. :-(
All I know is
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org wrote:
I have received a rumor that somebody is working on a
truly free and open phone
This part is in fact true.
with the following specs:
But the specs you have in mind are wrong.
* Quad-Core Intel Z3770D (1.5 - 2.5 GHz)
Nope, it's an
Norayr Chilingarian nor...@arnet.am wrote:
just would like to mention my needs, and unfortunately I cannot satisfy
them with your project. [...]
So I don't need a phone, but a mobile computer [...]
Then my project is not for you. It is for those who specifically want
a plain old cellphone
Norayr Chilingarian nor...@arnet.am wrote:
Yes, probably because they have this call and sms possibility.
Of course they (the carriers) provide call and SMS capabilities,
because I, their customer, want these capabilities, and would not be
their customer if they didn't provide such!
But I
Hello project followers,
Just a quick update on where the FreeCalypso project stands. I am
still reconstructing the full-source form of TI's Calypso reference
firmware, the one which we currently have only in semi-src form,
running on TI's Leonardo board and on the GTA02 modem. How can one
Nick openmoko-commun...@njw.me.uk wrote:
I haven't been using my phone much recently, but it's always been
reasonably reliable when I have. Today I turned it on, and all day
it has just said searching for network.
[...]
I'm not sure where to go or what to look for to debug this. I've
Nick openmoko-commun...@njw.me.uk wrote:
I tried the SIM in another phone and it does work, and another SIM
in this one does not (both the same network).
OK, good observation. The problem is now narrowed down to the FR,
rather than network coverage in your area, your service subscription
or
Nick openmoko-commun...@njw.me.uk wrote:
The phone that works is 3G, and it doesn't seem to have a 'force 2G'
option anywhere.
The option in question often goes by different names: it may also be
named network type or network selection etc, with the choices
being GSM or WCDMA or both. Try
joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote:
Please consider that - it seems / I heard - several 850/900 and 1800/1900
cells are getting reassigned in USA from GSM to UMTS or even LTE during last
year. Ongoing.
Yes, I heard that too. Dunno about Boston area, as I'm nowhere near
there, but at
There is one more way to test/observe what 2G and 3G services and
carriers are available at a given location: by giving that AT+COPS=?
query command to a 3G USB modem stick that speaks AT commands. I've
got a Huawei E303 (South American Claro branding), it is supported by
recent versions of the
Nick openmoko-commun...@njw.me.uk wrote:
In the meantime, I tried running the AT commands with socat, but
didn't get very far.
I've never used socat (I use my own tool, see below), so I don't have
much to comment on that part, but the transcript you've posted shows
that you managed to catch
Nick openmoko-commun...@njw.me.uk wrote:
Interesting results:
[...]
AT+COPS=?
+COPS: (1,T-Mobile ,T-Mobile,310260)
OK
[...]
If I'm not mistaken the above means that only T-Mobile is found.
Yes, it does. 310260 aka T-Mobile USA is the only thing your FR can
hear in the PCS1900 band.
There is one more free phone project still kickin':
https://bitbucket.org/falconian/freecalypso-sw
I somehow doubt that these new folks on the scene (indiephone.eu) will
produce a phone with a baseband processor whose firmware is delivered
to end users in full source form. At best they might
David wrote:
Is a GTA02 debug board any use to you? I'd be happy to mail it to you if so.
I already have one. :)
Excellent - I'm glad you decided to continue.
Yes, I am continuing for the time being, finances etc permitting.
From what I've seen and heard of the UK supplier 3 (the only 3G
Yury S z...@onego.ru wrote:
how to restore the battery for neo (pictures without any description,
sorry)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/zyth_2011/sets/72157646722873307/
I vaguely recall one of the experts on this list (or maybe it was some
other related list or forum) saying that a 2450 mAh
Nick openmoko-commun...@njw.me.uk wrote:
And am I correct in thinking that the latest revision of FreeCalypso
is this:
ftp://ftp.ifctf.org/pub/GSM/FreeCalypso/leo2moko-r1-bin.tar.bz2
It's the latest (and only so far) *practically usable* version. The
full-source, gcc-built FreeCalypso
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