from:"kimaidou"

no wdod for me, but the enlightment crrashedd;..Recover ? when I try the
full screen in woosh, but not in tangogps., under the updated shr unstable

2009/6/29 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com

 hey now! i made no mention of that lovable little keyboard. all i said
 is that i switch illum to none.

 On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm
 wrote:
  Same thing happens on Om2009 by the way. Illume or enlightenment bug.
 Don't
  blame literki :-)
 
  2009/6/29 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com
 
  i read some where else someone calling it the white screen of death
  wsod, or enlightement crashed, this is very bad...
 
  On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm
  wrote:
   By wsod do you mean the enlightement crashed, this is very bad...
   dialog?
  
   2009/6/29 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com
  
   well... i think iv just narrowed it down. all my current applications
   wsod on full screen because i, once again, set the illume keyboard to
   none.
   once i set it back to default everything calmed down.
  
   On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:30 AM, mqymeng.qing...@gmail.com wrote:
   
hi jeremy,
   
I encountered the WSOD two days ago with latest SHR-unstable, after
 a
upgrade without restart xserver or FR.
Haven't seen that problem again after reboot. I suggest you try
 other
applications (eg. tangoGPS) with full/unfull buttons, and/or do a
upgrade
then test again.
I will do a further check on omgps if this problem still exists
 after
your
upgrade, but don't know where to start from for now :)
   
   
jeremy jozwik wrote:
   
running shr-unstable 20090624 with the latest version of omgps on
opkg.org. when i hit the full button i get a white screen of
death.
   
no terminal errors to report.
   
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Re: [omgps] collect feature requests

Hum... speaking as a OpenStreetMap user, it would be great to merge the
functionalities of omgsp with those of a tool like
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokomapper
meaning big buttons (9 per full-screen) allowing to store preset OSM data
such as shop=bakery, highway=residential, amenity=pub, etc.. and be
able to export directly in osm format.
My idea is to get some inspiration here :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMtracker
Have a look at the screenshots, this is THE app missing on the freerunner to
dynamically add data into OSM.

Combining the map navigation of omgps and the easy editing of osm tracker
would be awesome !

Ex: I am fooling around in my city, with omgps on. Hey, this bakery is not
in the map. 3 clics further, it is ! (1clic on Osm, on click on Shops, one
click on Bakery

To be able to see if this bakery was or was not already in osm, it would be
great to have a layer osm poi above the slippy mapnkik map

This is my dream :D


2009/6/30 ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com

 mqy wrote:

 
  currently, you have to stop track then view path with track replay.
 

 Please, make track replay rewindable! For huge tracks you have to wait
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Mokometeo - not time but people willing to help, so..

Hi list,

I am the author of mokometeo : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokometeo
* Glenn sent me diff files some (long ?) time ago to improve mokomeote
* Fgau added a comment on the Discussion page about the yahoo weather api :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Talk%3AMokometeodiff=71423oldid=67713

Since I have no spare time left to do this myself, I created a google code
page with a mercurial repository :
http://code.google.com/p/mokometeo/source/checkout

Please feel free to commit the improvements.

NB : I have just discovered file versionning and mercurial. So I let people
do what they want :D
If you cannot push, it must be a misconfiguration of the google code page,
so please tell me.
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Re: [omgps] collect feature requests

Sorry I have not used Osm tracker, as my only mobile pc is my openmoko. I
have just looked at the screen shots.
Bu I have used osm2go (which has been ported to openmoko :
http://comiles.eu/~natanael/projects/ , see the osm2go dir and the goocanvas
dir ), and a deconnected edition is possible. When you reconnect, it just
sends the changes made.
So it is possible to do

2009/6/30 David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com

 On Tuesday 30 June 2009 11:19:33 David Garabana Barro wrote:

  Having this kind of app is also a dream for me! :)
 
  Only one question.
  How you upload data to OSM?
  Can you upload all data at the end of the day, or you need to be allways
  connected?

 I'm asking about OSMtracker, of course.
 I've already used omgps :)

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Re: [omgps] collect feature requests

I like osm2go, but here are the things wich prevent me to use it :
* not easy installation. If you encounter an error, you must create manually
the ~/.osm2go folder
* needs to set a project (not easy from the openmoko) to download the osm
vector format
* you must set many projects if you want to map in many places, because the
projects must contains very small areas not to be vry slow (best if a
rectangle of 5 km * 5km ). It is a shame you cannot start from scratch
* optimized for maemo screen, so not very usable with finger

But, it remains a great app, and you can try it on you debian or ubuntu :
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=830
And have a look of the wiki page
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM2Go

As a conclusion, I would say I cannot use it on my openmoko which is very
frustrating since it has many great features.
This is why I think we must create a dedicated openmoko software for easy
editing :
* png tiles
* big add poi buttons with preconfigured osm tags (as osm2go does well)
* deconnected mode : import osm data / upload changes BUT without displaying
the vector data, OR only a small bit of data (new layer) chosen by the user.
Diplaying vectors make osm2go slow on the freerunner, but we need the data
to be able to commit changes

I hope I do not monopolize the subject :D

2009/6/30 David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com

 On Tuesday 30 June 2009 11:37:04 kimaidou wrote:
  Sorry I have not used Osm tracker, as my only mobile pc is my openmoko. I
  have just looked at the screen shots.
  Bu I have used osm2go (which has been ported to openmoko :

 I didn't knew it, thanks for the link


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Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-18 Thread kimaidou

Hi all

Thanks for this great app !
I would like to know if someone had a workaround to prevent illume to
pop up its keyboard ?
I would love to see literki do it for me ;) . This way I won't be
bother again with the illume keyboard showing any time I select a text
on any app

thanks anyway for this great app



2009/6/17, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm:
 Hit the desktop icon again runs 'killall literki'.

 W dniu 17 czerwca 2009 23:23 użytkownik jeremy jozwik 
 jerjoz.for...@gmail.com napisał:

 is there anyway to end literki other than opening a new instance of it and
 waiting for it to crash?

 2009/6/17 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm

 RTF config file :-), you can set the keyboard size in there. Polish or
 other diacritic signs are not high on the list as I don't use them :-)

 2009/6/17 Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl

 Hi Michal,
 Great idea!
 I was wondering... it would be much more comfortable to type letters, if
 keyboard would be full screen (i have big hands). Yes, i know it would
 be harder to read, but letters of the keyboard itself could be
 transparent too. Consider it Michael, and thanks for your contribution.

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Re: new qwerty keyboard, Literki

2009-06-18 Thread kimaidou

ok, I became a stubborn command line geek. :D  Aie, it happened quickly
since I got my freerunner
Thx very much

2009/6/18 jahckal jahc...@gmail.com


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Re: OpenBmap

2009-06-09 Thread kimaidou

Hi

+ 1 for the hard steps to see the polygone of one cell in the map trrough
all the lists. Why not just show all the cells in the current zoom level,
from e.g zoom level 14 or 15 (to avoid loading to many data and slowing
down). This is what we want to know : is the coverage ok in this or that
area ? If not, ok, I go there where there is no cell registered, and do som
logging.

Anyway, thanks for this great app.

2009/6/10 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi

 Hi!

 I've been able to run openbmap (see opkg.org) for about a week now,
 here are some experiences:

 - Collecting cell id's is MUCH more easier than contributing to
 openstreetmap.org: all you need to do is start the openbmap app, make
 sure it has 3d fix, press the 'generate' -button (that'll be renamed
 to 'start' or 'log' or something soon :) and off you go. It records
 all the cells it sees. When you go inside, press 'quit' or 'stop'.
 When you get connected to Internet, press 'Upload'. That's it. (ok,
 before uploading you need to register at openbmap.org) - no need to
 go and analyze the saved data afterwards.

 - I already discussed with Onen (#openmoko-cdevel) some issues in the
 client app (= I have no idea what all the numbers mean and OTOH it'd
 be nice to have it work as a daemon eating as little resources as
 possible, OTOH it'd be nice to have the possibility to see a
 visualization of the data collected)

 - about the website www.openbmap.org - it's nice to see the servers
 uprunning again! I was surprised to get over 700 cells collected by
 just driving a car for 250km and taking a train back and taking a bus
 for 30 minutes in the city. Hard to believe I'd have seen 700 cells
 but if they tell I did.. http://realtimeblog.free.fr/logins_stats.php

 - Maps - this is the 'visualization' part of the project and I think
 that is what makes people interested and contribute - like every FLOSS
 software homepage should have 'screenshots' as one of the main menu
 items. Now you can select the country, mobile network, location area
 code and single cell to see the coverage there.
 (http://realtimeblog.free.fr/with_osm.php?mcc=244mnc=91step=2 )

 Since all I know is the country code and my cell operator.
 - sort the country list alphabetically - people don't have any idea of
 country codes (that are not the same as the phone country code:
 calling to finland needs +358 but the cell country code is 244...).
 - ok, I'm fine with selecting the mobile operator, that's something
 most of us know - but maybe sort again alphabetically, not based on
 the code none of us has ever seen..
 - but selecting the location area code - give me a break! So far we
 have 40 - 100 codes for single operator in Finland. If I wanted to
 know what's the coverage on the area of my interest, I have to just
 try to find the area I want by trying the list. And when I finally
 find that, I have to go through all the single cells individually.
 Nt very inspiring.

  - I think the country should be selected by the map: it should give
 the central coordinates and size to be used in the database search
 that then returns the information of cells. Different operators could
 be visualized by different colour. And then when I zoom in, at some
 stage it'd start showing the coverage if individual cells. And then
 clicking on a cell coverage area could give me the numbers: country
 id, operator, location area core, cell ID etc.. The current way
 expects people to want to know the coverage on one operator on one
 location area, and single cell instead of finding the cells in one
 area - which I really believe is the approach people would use more.

 So now we're waiting to be able to use all this information collected
 by three projects (opencellid, cellhunter and openbmap - all the data
 has been imported to openbmap so atm it's the biggest  most precise
 as most information is collected) to locate Freerunner. It'd be great
 to have it somewhere in low levels so that GPS apps could maybe work
 on this: some daemon just provides to location information, no matter
 if it's a random guess, based on GPS, GSM cells or WLAN base stations.
 Until that, please contribute to openbmap, it's easy  fun  the next
 version of the client app will have some fixes that make using it even
 nicer.


 Thanks for everyone who have contributed to this (including the people
 of cellhunter  opencellid!)

 ps. is it possible to download the whole data as a single file?

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Re: Mokomapper.py: Script for easy OSM mapping on the road: mokomapper.py

2009-06-08 Thread kimaidou

Hi !
First thanks to pavel and to you Risto for bringing this up !

Some ideas: we should create a wiki page for this, to gather all the ideas
given here.
My fist impression :
* we need some icons for each button to help finding the things
* I think it is a good start, but why not ask for any osm mapper and try to
redefine all the hierarchy. I think for this a tool as freemind is the best
: easy and quick. I am not saying the hierarchy used is wrong, but I think
we should take the chance to have a discussion on it while trying it

Ok, here the wiki page I created :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokomapper

Let's talk and improve it :D

Kimaidou

2009/6/8 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi

Ok, sending again to get pavel's e-mail address right this time..

Hi there!

There was a discussion about easy openstreetmap mapping with
Freerunner on the road.

I found mokomapper
(http://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tui/tui/mokomapper.py?view=markup)
some months ago (=I didn't write it, Pavel did (CC'd this mail to him))
and mentioned it in the thread. Someone requested some screenshots so
here you are: http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/mokomapper/ The readme file
also has some output log of the script. I think the output is not in
valid OSM format because of the broken GPS connection (maybe, I don't
know..).

I don't know how to use the app or how to import the stuff to OSM but
to me it looks like it really is going to the right direction. It
allows you easily to pinpoint road to left, road to right, different
types of roads, crossroads etc etc and I'd think you could add some
more items there quite easily since it's a simple python script..

So if there's anyone with some python skills, it'd be great to give
some love to this script so we all could easily do OSM mapping with
only FR around.

To use:
wget
http://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/tui/tui/mokomapper.py?revision=1.4
-Ohttp://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/*checkout*/tui/tui/mokomapper.py?revision=1.4%0A-Omokomapper.py
chmod 755 mokomapper.py
DISPLAY=:0 ./mokomapper.py

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Re: request for audiotagging

2009-06-05 Thread kimaidou

Hi all

My experience of OSM mapping :
* tango gps : just gps tracks
* OSM2go : live editing (get position by gps, download, view and edit the
vector OSM data with synchro of the changes on upload) -- great, but a bit
heavy and has no soud recording tool
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osm2go
and
http://comiles.eu/~natanael/projects/ (you must install first the goocanvas,
then osm2go-data and then osm2go. Before loading it, you must create the
conf folder with

mkdir ~/.osm2go/


I really wish we have a tool as OSMtracker for our freerunners :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMtracker
It has big button, can record audio, etc. . Is there any hope one with
coding skills can use it as an example to code a similar GUI and engine ?



2009/6/5 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi

 OSM yes, Openmoko Yes.

 There's some kind of mapping GUI at
 http://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tui/tui/mokomapper.py?view=markup
 It shows buttons that you can press to add tags in .osm format: speed
 limits etc.

 I haven't had a close look at it, it was suggested to me here:
 http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/my-openmoko-wishlist/#comments (read the
 comments by pavel)

 I think it could be extended/completed to be a usable tool, even wehn
 biking. It doesn't understand the road names etc but is a handy tool
 to add POI's etc. Someone with .py skill please have a look at it. If
 one would use this mokomapper with audio recorder, it'd be a powerful
 combination: the most simple tags you'd get by clicking FR and then
 read the street names.

 So far I've been just recording the track with tangogps and taking
 photos and then sync gps and EXIF times.

 regarding JOSM, I wouldn't use it on FR: I want a big screen to be
 able to do precisely what I want, to analyze the saved audio/gps/POI
 data.. (and I son't know what's the status of Java on OM..)

 Please don't let this thread die before we have a good solution!

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Re: request for audiotagging

2009-06-05 Thread kimaidou

hum, this is a start, indeed. Could someone test it and post screenshots
here (or anywhere else, the wiki is a great start..) ? My freerunner is in
Germany for a buzzfix :(.
Thanks in advance

2009/6/5 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi

 On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 9:57 AM, kimaidoukimai...@gmail.com wrote:
  I really wish we have a tool as OSMtracker for our freerunners :
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMtracker
  It has big button, can record audio, etc. . Is there any hope one with
  coding skills can use it as an example to code a similar GUI and engine ?

 See my previous post:

  There's some kind of mapping GUI at
  http://tui.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/tui/tui/mokomapper.py?view=markup
  It shows buttons that you can press to add tags in .osm format: speed
  limits etc.
 
  I haven't had a close look at it, it was suggested to me here:
  http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/my-openmoko-wishlist/#comments (read the
  comments by pavel)
 
  I think it could be extended/completed to be a usable tool, even wehn
  biking. It doesn't understand the road names etc but is a handy tool
  to add POI's etc. Someone with .py skill please have a look at it. If
  one would use this mokomapper with audio recorder, it'd be a powerful
  combination: the most simple tags you'd get by clicking FR and then
  read the street names.


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Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique

2009-06-03 Thread kimaidou

Hi all

Another idea to use the triangles but without dead spaces (so compatible
with small screen)
What about alternate orientations for each key, a bit like this:

/q\w/e\r/t\y/...

This way you have more space in the top on w, r and y, and more space on the
bottom for q, e and t. I mean more space compared to the squared keys like
this :
|q|w|e|r|t|y|

Has anyone tried it yet ? I have the feeling it would ROCK   ^ ^

Kimaidou


t, so it's at easy to write small commands in the terminal.

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Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique

2009-06-03 Thread kimaidou

hummm... no reaction to my /q\w/e\r/t\y/  idea ;)  ?


2009/6/3 pike pike-openm...@kw.nl

 Hi
  It's sad that this community couldn't even manage to build a decent
 keyboard
  for the freerunner within one year.

 I did try the list of keyboards last year
 and couldnt live with them. But the current one - shipping
 with om2009 - is pretty good. Even with fingers.
 So, there's been progress..

 What keyboard is it anyway ? Is it listed here
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate ?

 thanks,
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Re: guitartune v0.35 released (tune musical instruments)

2009-05-22 Thread kimaidou

Hi c_c
hum...I am sorry I asked you the same question for every good tool you create :D
Is it possible to create a deb package for guitar tune too ?
This way I will be able to get rid of my old guitar tuner :D

2009/5/22, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com:

 Hi,
   I've released guitartune v0.35. This should fix the alsa state problems.

   Guitartune can be used tune almost all instruments (from A0 to C8). Needs
 fftw3 from angstrom feeds.

  To Install:-

 opkg install libglade-2.0-0 gtk+
 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libfftw3-3_3.1.2-r1_armv4t.ipk
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Re: guitartune v0.35 released (tune musical instruments)

2009-05-22 Thread kimaidou

hi
I would love to be a debian package tester :D
Btw, I just send my freerunner to Germany for a buzz fix, so I won't
be able to test until I get it back. :D If everythings goes as
expected, it should be in 3 weeks

Kimaidou

2009/5/22, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com:

 Hi,

 kimaidou wrote:

 Is it possible to create a deb package for guitar tune too ?

 Sure. :-) Well, since I don't use debian - I don't remember to create deb
 packages.
 Anyway, since this will be my only second effort - please help me test the
 package.

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Re: guitartune v0.35 released (tune musical instruments)

2009-05-22 Thread kimaidou

Hey, how fast you were ! I am sure someone on the hackable-user list
would help testing this debian package. I just forward your email to
this list : Hi list :D

Thanks to any volunteer :D

2009/5/22, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com:

 Hi,

 kimaidou wrote:

I would love to be a debian package tester :D

  Ok. Here's the first version. Hope someone else can do the honours.
 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2956951/guitartune-0.35.deb guitartune-0.35.deb
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Re: NEW e-tasks Alpha release Updated

2009-05-21 Thread kimaidou

to sync with evolution, there is an amazing simple to called
syncevolution which uses the syncml protocol to sync with a server (as
funambol eg). I use it on my desktop, and it rocks !
Your tasks app must use the evolution data server.

The only pbm : one has to compile it for the freerunner. If someone
around has good compilation skills :D

2009/5/21, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com:

 Hi,
  Here's the latest release. Changes :-
  * added notes to tasks
  * some minor gui fixes and cleanups
  * purge button to remove all deleted tasks (from the deleted category)

   Still scratching my head about how to sync with evolution.

 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2949930/e-tasks_0.20_arm.ipk e-tasks_0.20_arm.ipk
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Re: PISI 0.2 released

2009-05-19 Thread kimaidou

I told in serveral emails that the dates software from the pimlico
(openmoko-dates2 in some distros) project uses the evolution data
server : the calendar of this app is in ICS format and stored here :
~/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics

Another app is gpe-calendar.

Kimaidou

2009/5/18, Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de:
 Francesc,
 to be honest - I am not aware of any client. And, I am not too sure,
 which Calendar client is the first one, that would need to be supported
 by PISI.
 I would aim for opimd support over the next weeks as I guess, this will
 be the plattform to be used in this area.
 Any comment / objection? I would be happy to get some more input for
 these things ...

 Greetings
 Mike

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 mailto:kichka...@gmx.de wrote:

 We just released PISI 0.2.

 Loads of enhancements were applied to Calendar synchronization - now
 supporting Google Calendar and ICalendar.



 Is there any calendar application that uses the iCalendar format or can
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Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

2009-05-15 Thread kimaidou

hum hu, and have you found a way to create a deb package, or the
elemetary lib is still missing ?

Thx in advance

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  Ok. Done. Latest working code in the svn. All image files, icon and
 .desktop file in a directory called resources under trunk.

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Re: [debian] Installing .ipk/.opk part 2: apt-get-file

2009-05-12 Thread kimaidou

Ok, after some more searches, I found that a
apt-get -f install
with no package name after forced the installation of these packages.

I will try with different ipk packages and report here.

2009/5/12 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk

 On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:13:39PM +0200, kimaidou wrote:
  No I did not. But now it it done, and after a apt-get update, I still
 get:
 
  You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
  The following packages have unmet dependencies:
ledclock: Depends: python-pygtk but it is not going to be installed
  Depends: python-subprocess but it is not going to be
 installed
  E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or
 specify
  a solution).
 
  Is it a specific hackable:1 problem ?

I don't know. I've seen that but it is not going to be installed
 message many times when trying to install packages (from the official
 Debian
 repository) on Debian. Apt-get is most unhelpful when it comes to error
 messages, basicly just saying: I know exactly what the problem is, but I
 won't tell you. :-(

   But, to try to debug the problem, what happens if you say

 # apt-get --dry-run install python-pygtk python-subprocess

 ?

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Re: [debian] Installing .ipk/.opk part 2: apt-get-file

2009-05-11 Thread kimaidou

Thanks for your help
i change sh into bash, and it works now.

My last pbm is my hackable apt-get wich does not want to install some
packages.. but it is not related to your script.

Thanks a lot

2009/5/11 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca

  debian-gta02:~# apt-get-file install
  http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/575/ledclock_0.6_all.ipk
  trap: 26: ERR: bad trap

  Any clue ?

 The script uses /bin/sh but actually relies on bashisms, so if your
 /bin/sh is actually something else (like dash, according to my crystal
 ball), you need to tweak the script with a patch such as the one below.


Stefan


 === modified file 'apt-get-file' (properties changed: -x to +x)
 --- apt-get-file2009-05-10 19:41:44 +
 +++ apt-get-file2009-05-10 19:47:27 +
 @@ -23,9 +23,12 @@
  exit 1
  }

 -trap exit_clean ERR
 -set -o errexit
 -set -o errtrace
 +# Bashisms.
 +#trap exit_clean ERR
 +#set -o errexit
 +#set -o errtrace
 +# For Dash.
 +trap exit_clean ILL QUIT SEGV HUP 0

  if [ --verbose = $1 ]; then
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Re: [debian] Installing .ipk/.opk part 2: apt-get-file

2009-05-11 Thread kimaidou

No I did not. But now it it done, and after a apt-get update, I still get:

You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  ledclock: Depends: python-pygtk but it is not going to be installed
Depends: python-subprocess but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify
a solution).

Is it a specific hackable:1 problem ?

Thanks for your help


2009/5/11 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk

 On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:55:39AM +0200, kimaidou wrote:

  My last pbm is my hackable apt-get wich does not want to install some
  packages.. but it is not related to your script.

Did you add the repository from part 1?

 # echo  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ril-oedepmappings.list \
 # 'deb http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk/software/download/oedepmappings/ /'

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Re: [debian] Installing .ipk/.opk part 2: apt-get-file

2009-05-10 Thread kimaidou

Waou ! This is great ! Thanks for this

Hum, I just tried and I got this error:

debian-gta02:~# apt-get-file install
http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/575/ledclock_0.6_all.ipk
trap: 26: ERR: bad trap

Any clue ?


2009/5/10 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk

   For part 1, please see the mailing list archive:
 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-March/043753.html

   Below you will find a shell script to install a package from a .deb, .opk
 or .ipk file on a Debian system. It will

- download the package if necessary.
- repack gzipped tar archives if necessary (some *.ipk).
- edit the control file for Debian compatibility (*.opk and *.ipk).
- jump through hoops so apt-get can be used for installation,
so dependencies can be resolved necessary.
- delete all temporary files created.

   Dependencies: dpkg-dev wget file binutils tar gzip

   Usage: apt-get-file [--verbose] install file [apt-get options]

   I'm sure there are still small bugs around the edges, so this is only
 alpha quality. I'm posting the script now because it mostly does what it's
 supposed to do and I want to get some feedback.

   Example run:

 # ~rask/bin/apt-get-file install
 http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/575/ledclock_0.6_all.ipk
 --2009-05-10http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/575/ledclock_0.6_all.ipk%0A--2009-05-1006:49:26--
 http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/575/ledclock_0.6_all.ipk
 Resolving projects.openmoko.org... 88.198.93.218
 Connecting to projects.openmoko.org|88.198.93.218|:80... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
 Length: 13214 (13K) [application/binary]
 Saving to: `ledclock_0.6_all.ipk'

 100%[]
 13,214  --.-K/s   in 0.1s

 2009-05-10 06:49:28 (99.5 KB/s) - `ledclock_0.6_all.ipk' saved
 [13214/13214]

  ** Packages in archive but missing from override file: **
  ledclock

  Wrote 1 entries to output Packages file.
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 The following extra packages will be installed:
  python-pygtk python-subprocess python2.6-minimal
 Suggested packages:
  binfmt-support
 Recommended packages:
  python2.6
 The following NEW packages will be installed:
  ledclock python-pygtk python-subprocess python2.6-minimal
 0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 112 not upgraded.
 Need to get 1331kB/1344kB of archives.
 After this operation, 4780kB of additional disk space will be used.
 Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
 WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
  python-pygtk python-subprocess ledclock
 Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
 Get:1 http://ftp.dk.debian.org experimental/main python2.6-minimal 2.6.1-3
 [1330kB]
 Get:2 http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk  python-pygtk 2.14.1-2 [576B]
 Get:3 http://nospamnospam.homepage.dk  python-subprocess 2.6.1-3 [582B]
 Fetched 1331kB in 2s (451kB/s)
 debconf: delaying package configuration, since apt-utils is not installed
 Selecting previously deselected package python-pygtk.
 (Reading database ... 45694 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking python-pygtk (from .../python-pygtk_2.14.1-2_all.deb) ...
 Selecting previously deselected package python2.6-minimal.
 Unpacking python2.6-minimal (from .../python2.6-minimal_2.6.1-3_armel.deb)
 ...
 Selecting previously deselected package python-subprocess.
 Unpacking python-subprocess (from .../python-subprocess_2.6.1-3_all.deb)
 ...
 Selecting previously deselected package ledclock.
 Unpacking ledclock (from .../ledclock_0.6_all.deb) ...
 Processing triggers for man-db ...
 Setting up python-pygtk (2.14.1-2) ...
 Setting up python2.6-minimal (2.6.1-3) ...
 Could not find platform dependent libraries exec_prefix
 Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to prefix[:exec_prefix]
 Setting up python-subprocess (2.6.1-3) ...
 Setting up ledclock (0.6) ...
 #

   And the script itself:

 #!/bin/sh

 # apt-get-file - Install package from .deb, .opk or .ipk file.
 # Copyright (c) 2009 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen ccc94...@vip.cybercity.dk

 #   This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
 #   it under the terms of the GNU General Public License version 3 as
 #   published by the Free Software Foundation.

 #   This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
 #   but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
 #   MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
 #   GNU General Public License for more details.

 #   You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
 #   along with this program.  If not, see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/.

 exit_clean () {
cd / || true
[ -z ${APTSRC} ]  || rm -rf -- ${APTSRC}
[ -z ${APTLIST} ] || rm -rf -- ${APTLIST}
[ -z ${PKG_TMPDIR} ]  || rm -rf -- ${PKG_TMPDIR}
exit 1
 }

Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

2009-05-08 Thread kimaidou

Hi c_c

Thanks for the link. I tryed to download it via wget, then install it with
dpk -i, but it failed :
debian-gta02:~# dpkg -i intone-0.40.deb
dpkg-deb: unexpected end of file in header info member in intone-0.40.deb
dpkg: error processing intone-0.40.deb (--install):
 subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 intone-0.40.deb

It seems the header of the deb file is wrong

2009/5/8 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com


 Hi,

 Christian Gagneraud wrote:
 
 hum doesn't work with om 2009
 
 can you post the error?

 Christian Gagneraud wrote:
 
 Thank you for your work, it looks cute!
 
  You're Welcome.

 @kimaidou - Here's the deb package. I haven't checked it on my phone (since
 I don't have debian) and I haven't added any dependencies cause I don't
 know
 what the packages are called. So can you tell me the full names of the
 following packages on debian ?
  -elementary (providing libelementary)
  -mplayer
  -sqlite3

 http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2843962/intone-0.40.deb intone-0.40.deb

 @Marcel-2 - I'm not sure what you mean. I've made a deb package for
 installing intone on a debian system. I hope the latest versions of
 elementary are available for debian. This version needs the newer
 libraries.

 @Yorick Moko - You're using a distribution with the older libraries. The
 newer libraries use names like 'libehal-ver-pre-01.so.0'. I'll release a
 ipk
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Re: Next cofundus OM competition idea

2009-05-08 Thread kimaidou

+1000 for having gui for easily pair to a Bt headset AND route the sound.
This app is really missing, as a BT headset is the only way to avoid the
anoying Buz without make surgery on my freerunner

Pleaaasse !  :D

2009/5/8 jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com

 copyu failed for me on shr-testing 20090422. bluetooth was enabled but
 ive just found that you need to manually start the bluetooth through
 the terminal on other distributions.
 im going to try later this week again

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  On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Steven **
  montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.commontgoss%2bopenmokocommun...@gmail.com
 
 
  , that allows you to send an receive files (I believe this is
  OBEX), etc.  This is the feature I am currently missing most.
 
  -Steven
 
  Does copyu work for you to send files?
 
  Rakshat
 
 
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 wrote:
   My idea is to have a large nummber of stable and
   interesting apps avaialble when stable telephony arrives on the FR. So
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   am
   looking at smaller projects - those that can be done in a month by one
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Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

2009-05-07 Thread kimaidou

Hi c_c

Sorry if I already asked the question : would it be possible to release a
debian deb package for intone ? I know there are other possibilities, but
your soft is very handy...
Thanks in advance

Kimaidou

2009/5/7 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com


 Hi,

 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
 
  but I still get the black page bug. This is quite strange
  since I only get this behavior with this elementary application
 
   I cant seem to replicate this. Of course, in all probability, it
 must be something I'm doing wrong :-). Can you - if you have
 the time - go through the init code and see what could be off?

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Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

2009-05-07 Thread kimaidou

  Yup. Debian package too coming this time :-)
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Re: Network Management

2009-05-04 Thread kimaidou

@ Yozig : I partially agree with you, but...hey ! The best would be to share
your little scripts for people who cannot understand scripts (or english)
easily enough to make a proper one
:D
I know the wiki has a lot of information, but it is hard to understand all
the things (especially for networking). For example, I can just dummly
copy/paste the scripts, but I understand nothing about netmasks, masquerade
and everything. I know we can learn, but some guys have less time ans
learning skills than others

Cheers

Kimaidou

2009/5/4 Yogiz yog...@gmail.com

 On Sun, 3 May 2009 14:12:23 -0700
 Rodney D. Myers rod_my...@fastmail.fm wrote:

  On May 3, 2009, at 1:55 PM, roby wrote:
 
   On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 10:46 PM, RodM rdmyers...@gmail.com wrote:
   Once that happens, I will bring my OM out of the box, and start
   utilizing it
   again.
   you won't know when that happens, leaving it in the box...
  
   -- just joking, no flame --
   --
   roby
 
  Which is fine as well.

 What do you want plug-and played? Usb connection? Wifi? GPRS? It all
 seems like simple scripting when using the framework. I mostly only use
 Wifi and it wasn't too hard to make a shortcut on the desktop that
 turns on wifi and connects to preferred AP, if one doesn't exist then a
 free AP with the best connection quality and if that does not exist,
 flash the led so I know no APs are available. I'm not sure it could be
 made any more easier so with what exactly are you having problems with?

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 10

2009-04-29 Thread kimaidou

Hi

I have just a question to clarify the installation process from scratch. I
am now flashing my freerunner with the image and rootfs from qte 4.4.3 (
http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/qt-extended-4.4.3-rootfs.jffs2AND
http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/testing-om-gta02-20090120.uImage.bin)

Then I will boot on my qte and activate the ssh connection with internet
sharing

Sould I download the tar
qte_20090427.tgzhttp://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/qte_20090427.tgzand
just extract it (could you give the tar command line please ?)
OR should I use the script ?

Thanks in advance

2009/4/28 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be

 New location for the files, watch out!

 (install instructions and script updated on 2090427: see below)

 Problems solved:
 
 See http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/qt-issues-fixed.txt

 Latest:

 - 20090427: backspace key added to the keyboard, made the keyboard
 faster in non predictive mode
 - qpe.sh startup script adapted to correct for bluetooth patchs
 differences in 2.6.24 and 2.6.28 kernels. But for the moment, openmoko
 doesn't provide the bluez3 package anymore, so no bluetooth at all for
 new installs for now

 See http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/commits/master for the changes

 Problems found (more like small nuisances now):
 ===
 See http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/qt-issues.txt

 Install instructions:
 =
 download the script
 http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/openmoko_install.sh , read the comments
 at the top and then execute the script on your openmoko (after having
 flashed the device and made sure internet works).
 For those who just want to replace their existing QtE: just download
 the QtE compressed file and replace your existing QtE with it:
 http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/qte_20090427.tgz.

 Enjoy!

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 10

2009-04-29 Thread kimaidou

Thanks for the reply. You said Well, I personally don't use 2.6.24 kernels
anymore, but my install. Why so ? Is there a better kernel to use ?

Another question : i heard there are many different version (based on FSO or
based on Debian). Is there a webpage with all the different versions, and a
comparison to help choosing among them ?

I have juste tested the command lines you gave (thx !), and it worked well.

Btw, should I use exactly the same command lines when a new version arrives
? (i think so, but just a confirmation)

Thanks again

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 10

2009-04-29 Thread kimaidou

ok, il will dive deep in the wiki pages

2009/4/29 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:46 AM, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks for the reply. You said Well, I personally don't use 2.6.24
 kernels
  anymore, but my install. Why so ? Is there a better kernel to use ?

 read the archives ... and the beginning of my install script: I use a
 2.6.28 kernel from April 4th (but then: no bluetooth ..)

  Another question : i heard there are many different version (based on FSO
 or
  based on Debian). Is there a webpage with all the different versions, and
 a
  comparison to help choosing among them ?

 openmoko wiki pages help you there

  I have juste tested the command lines you gave (thx !), and it worked
 well.
 
  Btw, should I use exactly the same command lines when a new version
 arrives
  ? (i think so, but just a confirmation)

 yup

 Franky

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Re: ffalarms 0.2.1 and atd-over-fso (now works on SHR-testing)

2009-04-28 Thread kimaidou

Hi Lukasz

1st, thanks for this great application. I would like to know:
* if you planed to release a deb package for the debian based distros
* if you planned to add the features wich mimate the sun rising by
increasing the light step by step as the sound increase the volume. The best
would be to go from red to orange, then yello then white :D

Thx again

2009/4/27 Łukasz Pankowski lukp...@o2.pl

 Steven ** 
 montgoss+openmokocommun...@gmail.commontgoss%2bopenmokocommun...@gmail.com
 writes:

  A well written app that works quite well under latest SHR-testing
  (installed via opkg directly from SHR feeds).

 Nice to hear.

  One area I think needs improvement ASAP:  my Freerunner suspends (thus
  silencing the alarm) before the alarm gets loud enough to really wake
  me up.  SHR goes back to suspended after about 1 minute even if
  ffalarms is playing the alarm. There are two things that would help
  this:
  1. Make the loudness increase by more with each step. Ideally this
  would be configurable.

 Currently it increases the volume +1 each second, I may make the time
 between increases configurable in config file if you insist that fixing
 point 2. (see below) is not enough for you.

  2. Make ffalarms prevent suspend for a time, maybe 5 minutes.  (Note
  that it would be REALLY bad to prevent suspend indefinitely, as I
  might forget I set an alarm and walk away from the phone, only to come
  back hours later to an empty battery)

 I will try to fix the suspend issue this weekend (time is scarce) that
 is avoid suspending until you stop the alarm.

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Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

2009-04-27 Thread kimaidou

Hi c_c

And what about a debian .deb package ? There are already some music player
packages, but none is as finger friendly as inton (my opinion), e.g Sonata,
or gmpc (which are frontend for mpd )

Thanks in advance
Kimaidou

2009/4/27 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com


 Hi,
  The openmoko feeds have changed some library names to something like
 libecore_evas-ver-pre-01.so.0. And now programs compiled here don't run on
 any other distribution.
  Will need more time to come up with a release. I'm pretty much done adding
 dbus support and have altered the finger size to hopefully better
 propotions.
  Will release soon.




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Re: Intone (0.30 - beta release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

2009-04-27 Thread kimaidou

thanks a lot !

2009/4/27 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com


 Hi,

 kimaidou wrote:
 
  And what about a debian .deb package ?
 
  Well, I hadn't thought of one. Thanks for bringing this up. Will have to
 read some tutorials on how to make one. I think they are quite similar to
 the .ipk's in that they too have a control file etc.
  The next release - coming soon - will have a .deb package too.
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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

2009-04-24 Thread kimaidou


 Yes it is, we just have to add this functionality to the dialer-app or
 create another one. (just playing sound using a state routing it to
 Mono1 - not playing it back. and then recording after playing a short
 signal.) it's not hard to do, even in python.
 I think it just hasn't been implemented because each provider provides
 some kind of mailbox.
 But it would be nice because checking the mailbox is not always free!


Not always free (e.g. when you are abroad), and it is limited :
* you cannot keep a message as long as you want,
* you cannot copy the message to you PC,
* you cannot use a I am not here message different for each caller (e.g :
a message for my mum, another for my boss, etc.)
* you cannot forward a voice message to another person
*etc.

Kimaidou



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Re: BT Hands Free Kit

2009-04-24 Thread kimaidou

Hi
What you want to do is feasible (I read post on the list with people telling
they achieved to use ther bt headset with the freerunner), but it seems to
be hard (and manual with around 5 steps). So I am waiting for some
developpers to create a soft running on the freerunner which would
facilitate these things (discovering the bt headset, pairing, routing the
sound to and from the bt headset). I have seen 2 projects for this :
* http://shrbluetooth.googlecode.com/ (a work in progress)
* http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/noko/index.php?title=NokoBtm
I have not tested them yet


The link you gave is very interested, but I think it is the opposite
objective : the software there has to be installed on a linux desktop
computer (or laptop) and is made to transform the PC into a bt headset.
With it, it is said you can then use you PC mic and speaker to make calls
with any BT mobile phone. By the way it was exactlu what I was searching, so
I will test it when I have time. But it is not what you want. If I
understoof correctly, you already have a bt headset and you need a software
running on the freerunner to connect the headset to you freerunner.

Kimaidou

2009/4/23 Joerg Eesmann jeesm...@gmx.de

 Hello there,
 I am reading many things about BT-headsets and everything. Is there any
 possibility to use the Freerunner together with the Hand Free Kit in the
 car? I tried in my car, but the car does not find the Freerunner
 (OM2008.12 kustomized).
 Has anybody an idea?
 I found this http://nohands.sourceforge.net/source.html as a bluetooth
 project.

 Anything would help:
 best would be something like:
 ... use XYZ.opk and it will work!
 in worst case a bluetooth protocol description for hands free kits would
 also help.

 any idea would be appreciated.
 be safe,
 Joerg


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Use my GSM from my laptop via USB (or BT, wifi) ?

Hi list

Many great applications allow us to use the freerunner as a device for the
laptop :
* simulate a bluetooth GPS receiver : BtGps
http://www.opkg.org/package_91.html
* use the freerunner as a GPRS modem : GprsModem :
http://www.opkg.org/package_205.html
* use the freerunner as a Wi-Fi Hotspot Access Controller : CoovaChili :
http://www.opkg.org/package_176.html
* use the fr as a remote control : ReMoKo :
http://www.opkg.org/package_14.html
* etc.

I would like people to tell me about the feasibility to use the GSM chipset
from my laptop. What I want to be able to do is to
* use one of the 3 connections : USB, Wifi or bluetooth between my laptop
and my freerunner
* start or answer a regular GSM call (not sip)
* use my laptop speakers (or headset pluged in the out pin of my laptop) and
the laptop microphone instead of those of the freerunner

This way
* we would be able to call hands free while working or surfing
* there would be no buzz for the remote person talking to you
* we could have a full answering machine software
* etc.

So my question are :
* Is it feasible ?
* Has someone the skills, time and will to develop some scripts or full
software to do it ?

Cheers
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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

Another feature request :

Would it be possible to have an option which, if set, would
* answer automatically each incomming phonecall,
* play a previously save wav file as a I not here at the moment blabla 
welcomming message and route it so that the correspondant can hear it
* record the remote guy until he/she stops the call (we need other names for
the files recorded, as -MM-DD_HH-MM_voicebox.wav)

I do not know it this must be implemented in Dictator, as it is a bit far
from a dictator function, but yeahhh, this would be great !
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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

Humm.

Is there a OSMTracker version for the openmoko ? If so, could you please
give a link ?
Thanks in advance

2009/4/23 matthias matthiasfels...@web.de

 What about an integration into, let' say tangoGPS, which is written in
 gtk too?
 Another tab for recording voice-notes which are automatically linked
 into the tangoGPS track would be a pleasant solution to me. you could
 convert its track into gpx and upload it the way you like.

 But if OSMTracker does this job already and a daemon would be more
 suitable, maybe it's not worth the work.


 Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb:
  kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com writes:
 
  * adding them into the wav file (or ogg file) metadata ? Which format ?
 Have
  you any clue how to do it ?
 
 
  Just use timestamped recordings and correlate those later against GPS
  data. If you to ask the GPS for the current location you get
  lower/unpredictable precision (important if you are moving fast in a
  car for example) and you can not use external GPS device not connected to
 the phone at all.
 
 
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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

Yes, why not. As a user, it is not important for me if this is diktaphone or
asterisk which does it. I do not know many things about sounds, routing,
etc., so I cannot argue :D
If asterisk can do it , let's use asterisk ! But we (dumm users) will need
end-user simple tuto to achieve some things :D

Anyway, I think it would be a great feature

2009/4/23 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca

  Would it be possible to have an option which, if set, would
  * answer automatically each incomming phonecall,
  * play a previously save wav file as a I not here at the moment blabla 
  welcomming message and route it so that the correspondant can hear it
  * record the remote guy until he/she stops the call (we need other names
 for
  the files recorded, as -MM-DD_HH-MM_voicebox.wav)

  I do not know it this must be implemented in Dictator, as it is a bit far
  from a dictator function, but yeahhh, this would be great !

 Seems like what you want is to route the GSM to Asterisk.


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Re: Asterisk on Freerunner was: voip on Debian

2009-04-22 Thread kimaidou

thanks a lot :D

2009/4/22 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com

 2009/4/21 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com:
  Hi
  thanks for this feedback !
  Could you please write a wiki page about this, if not already done ?

 I started a page at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Asterisk
 Everyone interested is invited to correct (english is not my native
 language) and collaborate, there is a lot to do :)

 Regards

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Re: [SHR] 4-16 shr-testing is pretty good!

Thank you again !

2009/4/21 Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com

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  Not only that, but they also got rid of a few nasty bugs: the GPRS link
  (now included out-of-the-box) no longer stalls, the USB networking with
  Windows boxes is restored, and the messages and dialer apps no
  longer crash randomly. And Raster's keyboard finally works the way it
  should (fast and clean). Very nice indeed.
  Kudos to everyone, not just the SHR team for a great integration effort,
  but also to the kernel and application teams.

 Quote all :D

 I think we could create a thanks thread to give moral effort and
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Re: [SHR-testing] sms app does not display neither date nor sender

my answers :

2009/4/21 ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com

 Hello list.

 Various people have reported recently that the shr-messages(or
 openmoko-messages3?) application does not display the timestamp. But
 what is much more annoying it does not associate the phone number with
 the name from the SIM card's phone book. Does anyone experience this too?


-- yes, I have the same issue



 Moreover I cannot create an phonebook entry in my native language, only
 in ASCII. Is this also a common issue? I am asking because one can type
 SMS in their native language, which means that the bug with not
 supporting UTF-8 in SHR has gone, but why not for phonebook?

-- do not know since I always wirte contacts name in simple letters so
that I have no pbm when synchronizing / copying them



 And the third question: what's the difference between applications
 openmoko-messages3 and shr-messages(and also for phonebook)? My opkg
 always reports errors about a package shr-messages which wants to
 overwrite files owned by openmoko-messages3 package.

 -- there is a current process of renaming shr dialer, contacts and
messages applications. It is not over, so I think you should wait a litlle
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Re: [All?] Dictator - the most undemocratic recording and dictation software ever

+1 for putting the gps information (lat, long, date and time, hpv dops) .
But please, OSMers, could you please help to know what you prefer :
* adding them into the wav file (or ogg file) metadata ? Which format ? Have
you any clue how to do it ?
* just create a text file with the same name as the wav file and containing
this info
* just name each wav file with the long and lat and date time ?

Please help. I would love to have this too, but we need more precisions.

2009/4/21 David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com

 On Tuesday 21 April 2009 12:17:41 Francesco de Virgilio wrote:

 First of all, thank you for the application :)

  The first time I've seen the screenshot on opkg.org, I've thought that
  it's big buttons are *perfect* for bike riding. So, the question is:
  OpenStreetMap mappers (and other people, BTW) need an application
  capable to take georeferred notes, which can easily can used to prospect
  them on mapping Desktop applications (such like JOSM[1]).

 It wold be REALLY great to have such an application on Neo for OSMers :)

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Re: Asterisk on Freerunner was: voip on Debian

Hi
thanks for this feedback !
Could you please write a wiki page about this, if not already done ?

Thanks again

Kimaidou

2009/4/21 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com

 2009/4/19 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com:
  Some alsa guru may take a look at the chan_alsa.c file of asterisk
 1.4.17?

 Jaroslav Kysela of ALSA pointed me to the problem (thanks), and
 effectively asterisk code does not support dmix plugin in it's state,
 I corrected it with a fast 2 line change workaround working only with
 dmix (a real patch is needed), and now asterisk/alsa is working great
 and stable.
 It's about two hours that I'm listening some mp3 on it sent by ekiga
 on the laptop :)
 I'll update about my progress on AMI interface soon.

Nicola

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Re: sunlight readable LCD

2009-04-16 Thread kimaidou

Hi list

And what about just sort of a black ribbon put around the freerunner, like a
hat or a crown 2 or 3 centimeters high ? We leave the bottom of the
freerunner (the ring part) free, so that the hand can easily access the
touchscreen.

As on said, your head provide shade (protect from the glade of the sky) and
the black ribbon will protect from the light coming on the edges. (a black
power tape would do the job)

It won't cost much !


2009/4/16 vale va...@gmx.de


 i would be interested too. an outdoor case and lcd for the neo would be
 great.

 perhaps it can be a case where the neo fits in, and lcd is connected via
 usb. also we can put in a better gps antenna connected to the external
 gps-antenna-connector.

 we can use it as navigation system not only on a bike also for geocaching
 or just to walk around ;)

 hope we get something running!

 best regards

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Re: Tasks Client for FR

2009-04-15 Thread kimaidou

Hi
My comments follow

2009/4/14 kichkasch kichka...@gmx.de


 About PISI - I am one of the developers there and I am happy to read about
 all the input for further developments here.
 As it looks to me now, there are different options, which probably have
 different priorities. I have been pretty much busy with the Contacts part of
 PISI; my brother will now start pushing the Calendar part a bit more (after
 I will have done some refactoring on this side by the end of this week).
 First task there for him will be proper ICS support. There is a Python
 library available for doing all the low level files read / write (which I
 used sucessfully for VCF files already); so it shouldn't be too much
 troubles to come up with a proper implementation.


Great news ! I think ics support will allow a lot of things


 For the contacts part, I would need some more input for requested data
 sources. For now, we support QTopia address book (SQLite, e.g. OM 2008.12),
 LDAP Server, VCF files and Google Contacts. Awaiting are:
 - opimd support
 - SIM card support
 - SyncML / Opensync support


Synclm (and I suppose Opensync) does not only handle contacts, but all the
pim data as calendars, tasks, notes and contacts


 - Online VCF support (just download / upload the file)
 - Pimlico / Evolution

 My impression is, that SyncML / Opensync is my next task. I was searching
 for some libraries already; and I found two implementations at a very early
 stage - I will go and test them soon.


I think it is a 'must have' feature if you do not want to re invent the
wheel. There are so many different clients for syncml servers (PDA, palm,
windows mobile, outlook, thunderbird, webpages, etc.) . Syncml is about to
sync both ways.


 The Evolution / Pimlico stuff - I thought would be somehow outdated already
 on the Openmoko!? The upcoming 2009 will be opimd?? Well, last time I looked
 for it, it had not progressed much behind the initial idea.


I think we must let the user choose. This is the power of free softwares. At
the moment, opimd does not handle calendar, tasks and notes (I can be wrong)
and -no offense to the developpers- we wait for it for quite a long time. If
someone has some good news.. On the other side, pimlico already has a
calendar and tasks application. I do not think pimlico is outdated but still
in early stage.
And opimd is not used by all the distributions. For example, Hackable:1 uses
the pimlico suite to handle the contacts.

I am really glad you and your brother work on this very needed feature for
the openmoko ! Thanks a lot



 BTW: Has anybody yet tested PISI on a distribution other than OM 2008.12? I
 always tested on this one ...
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Re: Tasks Client for FR

2009-04-15 Thread kimaidou

Sorry I have just forgotten : have you contacted the pimlico developpers ?
They already have begun to implement opensync integration.

Regards
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Re: Tasks Client for FR

2009-04-15 Thread kimaidou

Hi ! Yes I saw this too. It is a shame, as syncing is really needed on a
mobile device.

By the way since last week dates and tasks are available in the SHR
unstable repository.
So if you are running Shr unstable, just do
*opkg install dates tasks*
to instal these apps


2009/4/15 Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de

 I remembered that I had had a close look on the website already - and I
 just did so again.

 I see two problems here: first of all it is written in C (PISI uses
 Python); but nevertheless I think, I could re-use at least some of their
 ideas ...
 Second: the Sync-part of Pimlico does not progress much ... when checking
 the SVN, I noticed that the last entry (in Changelog) is from end of 2006;
 other parts are under much higher progress (e.g. Contacts) ...

 So - for coming to an end - I haven't yet contacted the developers;
 however, I keep an eye on this project and will try to re-use stuff whenever
 possible ...

 Greetings, Mike

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Re: [SHR] GPRS, again

2009-04-14 Thread kimaidou

Have you tried to update the module with ppp-generic :

echo ppp-generic  /etc/modutils/ppp-generic
update-modules
shutdown -r now

This works great for me.
For debuggin and connecting via terminal, I use :

mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ActivateContext mygprs x x

Replace mygprs with your provider adress. You must leave the double x at the
end : they are here for no user and password needed

Kimaidou

2009/4/14 Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net

 Hi all,

 Still I cannot get GPRS working on unstable, although I have gotten an
 subscription with GRPS about 4 months ago, hoping I could use it with SHR.

 I tried the settings menu but that did not work. Even manually editting
 shr_grps.py to the correct APN, login and password did not help.

 Manually, I have also tried:
  mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogpsd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
 org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ActivateContext internet

 (my provider has internet as APN and empty string as login and passwd)

 The result is:
  /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: ActivateContext failed:
 org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod

 What is THE way to get GRPS working on SHR?

 Thanks,

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Re: [SHR] GPRS, again

2009-04-14 Thread kimaidou

2009/4/14 Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net

 kimaidou wrote:
  Have you tried to update the module with ppp-generic :
 
  echo ppp-generic  /etc/modutils/ppp-generic
  update-modules
  shutdown -r now

 thanks! finally it works :D


It must work from the SHR setting too.




 Can this be included in the default SHR build?


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Re: Tasks Client for FR

2009-04-10 Thread kimaidou

Hi,

Please correct me if I am wrong (I am just a user): I understood there was a
rewrite / adaptation of the pimlico dates and tasks to fit the look and feel
of Openmoko distribution. So the applications openmoko-dates2 and
opnemoko-tasks2 were put in the OM distributions and repositories.

But
* I think/heard that these openmoko versions were not the last version of
the original pimlico project or do not follow the evolution of the pimlico
project (I may be wrong). Now the version number of pimlico is 4.6.
* Now, you can install the openmoko versions only on OM distributions. On
SHR, I tried to use the Angstrom repository as I wrote in the wiki :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Pimlico , but It is not a correct way because
if you use this repository under SHR without breaking the installtion. So I
opened a ticket in the SHR trac for this...
http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/376

The best would be someone with the knowledge, time and will to compile it to
an simple ipk and then put it on opkg.org

On debian, you can easily test them with
apt-get install dates tasks

About syncing and data from the web:
* with the last version, I think you can open a ics file from the web
* the 4th tool from pimlico is about syncing.. I hope it is just a matter of
time http://www.pimlico-project.org/sync.html
* the projet PISI would like to implement the support of ICS files. If so,
pbm solved ! http://www.opkg.org/package_191.html  I am in contact with them
to speak about pimlico
* the data format of the pimlico suite is based on the Evolution project
http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/   There are tools to sync the data
withy the well-known syncml protocol
http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/syncevolution?s[]=syncml  So someone must be able
to adapt / port it on the moko ?
* you can copy / paste the ics files located here :
~/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics
Ok, this is a very rough way, but it is ok if you only modify

For now, it has no alarm support. Personally, I do not care, but people
might.

As a conclusion I would like to say that I use my freerunner as a
professional mobile computer, and I am really missing simple ways to read /
modify /sync the calendar and tasks and contacts !
Why not propose a cofundos project to help developper improve pimlico (and
its sync tool) and PISI ?

I hope many will answer and propose their vision / tips / softwares

PS : I tried gpe-calendar, wich seemed great, but it does not handle big
calendars witouht crashing (it becomes slower and slower and then you can do
nothing more


2009/4/10 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com

 2009/4/9 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com:
  There is the great project pimlico which provides dates = calendar and
  tasks.
  http://www.pimlico-project.org/dates.html
 
  These 2 apps are great because :
  * they use the evolution data storage way. As evolution has got tools to
  sync data with the syncml protocol, it must be easy to sync data
  * you can install dates and tasks on your desktop
  * they are user friendly, load fast and do the job correctly

 weren't they re-packaged as dates and something else, and supplied by
 openmok as the originals et of applications? we already have them in
 the om repositories. but there's no sync, or way of getting data from
 the web

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Re: Tasks Client for FR

2009-04-10 Thread kimaidou

@rixed about the scambio project : No offense, but I do not understand why
you don't use well-known and working standards as syncml or opensync ?
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Re: Tasks Client for FR

2009-04-09 Thread kimaidou

Hi all

There is the great project pimlico which provides dates = calendar and
tasks.
http://www.pimlico-project.org/dates.html

These 2 apps are great because :
* they use the evolution data storage way. As evolution has got tools to
sync data with the syncml protocol, it must be easy to sync data
* you can install dates and tasks on your desktop
* they are user friendly, load fast and do the job correctly

But
* I cannot use them on my SHR because they are not in the repository. I
tried the workaroung described here :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Pimlico#SHR  , but it does not always work.
One time I broke my installation (Perhaps I did not get rid of the Angrom
repo before doing an opkg update)
-- Please test and report
* There is at the moment no tool for syncing 2 ways. One you can do is copy
the calendar.ics files (in ~/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics )
from the desktop to the freerunner, and back, but it is not real synchro
* The tool Pisi : http://www.opkg.org/package_191.html could be a good way
to sync, but It does not support ics files yet
* the project Pimlico is about to developp a synchronisation tool based on
opensync, but I do not know when it will be out :
http://www.pimlico-project.org/sync.html

Anyway, I tried a lot of different calendar applications on debian based or
SHR (dates, gpe-calendar, osmo, calcurse, etc.), and dates is the one I
prefer.

2009/4/9 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com


 Hi,

 try the apps by knj - there's a google calendar app (should be adding other
 backends later), and an e-mail client, with support for imap

 Thanks - will try those.
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Re: Intone (0.24) Elementary based mplayer frontend

2009-04-09 Thread kimaidou

Hi

Could you please give the link the the mplayer version to use ?
There are a lot of different builds, with glamo, ppt, etc. I am completely
lost :D
Do you have a wiki page where you give installation and usage instructions
as mplayer config file, playlist backup, etc. ?

thanks in advance

2009/4/9 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com


 Hi,
  Sorted out the error on exit. Here's the latest version
 intone_0.24_arm.ipk
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Re: Intone (0.24) Elementary based mplayer frontend

2009-04-09 Thread kimaidou

thanks very much

2009/4/9 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com


 Hi,
  A basic wiki page is available here  now.
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Re: Call Recorder application.

2009-04-07 Thread kimaidou

Hi Tom
Thanks again for this. My idea would be : ask the developper of each dialer
to integrate a button record using you code.

2009/4/7 Tom t...@stosb.com

 Hi.

 My name is TAsn. I recently wrote a call recorder app (
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Call_Recorder) that should work on all
 distros.
 I know many have been waiting for this kind of application so I decided a
 proper announcement is in place (actually rakshat thought I should...).
 Enjoy recording your calls, and don't forget it's illegal to do so without
 the other side's confirmation in many places around the world.

 Enjoy,
 Tom.

 p.s
 please make sure to send me bug reports/ideas/patches.

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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

2009-04-07 Thread kimaidou

Hi Richard

I just run opkg update opkg upgrade, which installed the new qwo
keyboard.

I tested it. My feedback :
* you changed the yellow shapes. Could you tell us why ? By the way, they
seem to be drawn with the mouse (not regular). Is it art ? (joking, light
tone)
* I can only write numbers with this version. the move from the center to
one zone and back to the center do not work anymore (as more complex ones).
Instead theses moves write numbers. Am I the only one with this bug ?

Cheers
Kimaidou

2009/4/7 Richard Kralovic r...@om.ksp.sk

Hello,

When patch will be more flexible, I will add it to SHR (patch for
compositing with Xglamo is already in SHR for some time)

Ok, so it should be a bit more flexible now. A new version (see updated
http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~Openmoko/qwohttp://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/%7EOpenmoko/qwo)
does not break the
builtin keyboard any more. Basicaly illume with this patch distinguish
between applications with name Keyboard and TransparentKeyboard, the
latter one is handled differently.

In default configuration, this patch should have no effect. You need a
newly patched qwo to use it, though.

Greets
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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

2009-04-06 Thread kimaidou

Hi

Thanks again ! I managed to install it. for this, I had to remove imlib2 and
then reinstall your qwo package !:

opkg remove imlib2 -recursive
opkg remove qwo (if not removed by the precedent line)
opkg install
http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/qwo_0.4-r0_armv4t.ipk

And BIM, a great transparent keyboard !!

Big question : Have you proposed to the SHR guys to add this functionnality
by default on the next testing release ?

Thanks anyway
I will try to write a wiki page on this, if you don't mind

2009/4/6 Richard Kralovic r...@om.ksp.sk

 Hello,

  I got nothing

 So it looks like the qwo can not be configured because of dependency
 problems with imlib2. Which version of imlib2 do you use? Maybe you
 could try to remove imlib2 (with -force-depends) and install it again
 from the repository on meru? Or maybe you can try the shr-unstable feed
 (i.e. modify your /etc/opkg/meru.conf to use shr-unstable, opkg update,
 and opkg install qwo)?

Richard

 
 
  Or you can just reinstall qwo (I have recompiled it now to be sure
  that the version is correct).
 
 
  -- I tried and could not (the -force-depends did not help)
 
  r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install -force-depends
  http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk
  /~riso/Openmoko/qwo/qwo_0.4-r0_armv4t.ipk
  Downloading
 
 http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/qwo_0.4-r0_armv4t.ipkhttp://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/%7Eriso/Openmoko/qwo/qwo_0.4-r0_armv4t.ipk
  Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or
  PREFER.  Using latest.
  Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or
  PREFER.  Using latest.
  Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or
  PREFER.  Using latest.
  Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or
  PREFER.  Using latest.
  Upgrading qwo on root from 0.4 to 0.4-r0...
  Installing libimlib2-loaders (2:1.4.2.001+svnr38274-r0) to root...
  Downloading
 
 http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr/ipk/armv4t/libimlib2-loaders_1.4.2.001+svnr38274-r0_armv4t.ipkhttp://meru.inf.ethz.ch/%7Erkralovi/shr/ipk/armv4t/libimlib2-loaders_1.4.2.001+svnr38274-r0_armv4t.ipk
  Collected errors:
   * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
  /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/tiff.so
  But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
   * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
  /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/bz2.so
  But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
   * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
  /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/bmp.so
  But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
   * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
  /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/png.so
  But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
   * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
  /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/xpm.so
  But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
   * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
  /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/pnm.so
  But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
   * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
  /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/tga.so
  But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
   * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
  /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/lbm.so
  But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
   * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
  /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/jpeg.so
  But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
   * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
  /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/argb.so
  But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
   * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
  /usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/zlib.so
  But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 
 
  If you want to test if the transparency works at all, you can try
  opkg upgrade
  opkg install transset
  transset
  and click any window - it should be transparent afterwards.
 
 
  -- it worked well !
 
 
  Thanks for your patience :D
 
 
  
 
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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

2009-04-06 Thread kimaidou

2009/4/6 Richard Kralovic r...@om.ksp.sk

  Then I restarted, and lead the xcom script. It runs ok (no errors).
  But when I open the keyboard, it is not transparent, and the circles
  from u... clockwise or the way back just change the size. Have I
  really installed your qwo package ? How can I check please

 Hmmm... you can e.g. check if /usr/bin/qwo contains string
 NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY (run
 strings /usr/bin/qwo | grep NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY
 ).


-- i tried the command:
strings /usr/bin/qwo | grep NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY
I got nothing


 Or you can just reinstall qwo (I have recompiled it now to be sure
 that the version is correct).


-- I tried and could not (the -force-depends did not help)

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install -force-depends
http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk
/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/qwo_0.4-r0_armv4t.ipk
Downloading
http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/qwo_0.4-r0_armv4t.ipk
Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.
Using latest.
Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.
Using latest.
Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.
Using latest.
Multiple packages (qwo and qwo) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.
Using latest.
Upgrading qwo on root from 0.4 to 0.4-r0...
Installing libimlib2-loaders (2:1.4.2.001+svnr38274-r0) to root...
Downloading
http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr/ipk/armv4t/libimlib2-loaders_1.4.2.001+svnr38274-r0_armv4t.ipk
Collected errors:
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/tiff.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/bz2.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/bmp.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/png.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/xpm.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/pnm.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/tga.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/lbm.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/jpeg.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/argb.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/zlib.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2


If you want to test if the transparency works at all, you can try
 opkg upgrade
 opkg install transset
 transset
 and click any window - it should be transparent afterwards.


-- it worked well !


Thanks for your patience :D
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Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend

for album cover, the best way is to look for a file called cover.png or
folder .png (or jpgs) and display it.

Thanks for this 1st release

2009/4/5 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com

On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 23:59:35 -0700 (PDT) c_c cchan...@yahoo.com said:

where's the source... luke? :)

Hi,
Well, it took a lot longer than I thought - but finally - here's the
alpha
release of Intone - a mplayer frontend (for audio files - as of now) in
C.
Uses about 2% CPU (max) while running - memory goes up depending on your
playlist - on my phone (~2500 songs) it uses about 15%. All you need to
do is
download the attached ipk and install it. Intone depends on sqlite3 and
libelementary. If you have elementary on your phone upgraded to a level
where
the elementary test application shows you a demo of sliders and genlists,
Intone should run on your phone. The recommended way to organise music is
to
put all the files in a folder (lets say Music), with sub folders named
after
artists (say Music -Eagles) and with sub sub folders holding albums
(that
becomes Music-Eagles-Hell Freezes Over-*.mp3). That way, Intone can
correctly organise your music collection into albums. It automatically
creates a default playlist containing all songs and individual playlists
for
each album. I have added features to manage playlists and albums - but
there
is always scope for improvement. Intone uses a sqlite database as a
backend
for the playlists and albums. That should, hopefully, give flexibility in
adding more features later. Things that don't work as of now :-

1. Feedback. - I haven't been able to add dialogs yet. So - wait a little
while for Intone to finish long operations (like adding your music
collection
for the first time - my 2500 odd songs took about 6 secs - the button
remains
pressed too)
2. Dialogs for deleting stuff. It's safe - Intone does not delete any
files -
but it does delete tables(albums and playlists) - and it doesn't yet ask
for
confirmation.
3. Seek. Dont know how to use the slider for seeking. Any Ideas?
4. DBUS. - Haven't gotten around to learning edbus - so no occupy resouce
CPU
or pause on incoming calls yet. Will take some more time.
5. Album art and lyrics. - Don't yet know the best way to go about doing
this
other than downloading art from some retailers etc. Ideas welcome.
6. Toggle View. Not working yet. I intend having 2 more views - Album Art
and
Lyrics.

I'm also looking at adding support for the button that the standard
handsfree has - as a volume control (3 preselcted levels in rotation) or
to
go to next song (1 click) and prev song (2 clicks). Any suggestions?

Since I also have half a podcast manager built (which I couldn't finish
in
time for the competition) - I'm also looking at adding that support in
the
future.

Feedback Required
1. Bug reports.
2. Artwork - Ideas / png's / whatever
3. Elementary help. I have a lot of questions. Here are a few :-
a) How do I reduce the vert height of 1 entry in the genlist? Right
now
each line in the list is too high (almost 3 text lines high) - so I get
only
about 4 song names on the screen. Can I reduce the height to say 1.5 text
line - 2 text line? b) How do I use the pager with a genlist? In my case
the
pager works - but it doesn't show the genlist - the buttons all show up
though. c) Dialogs and progress bars. I know elementary doesn't have them
-
but can I make/have a simple ty solution for the time being?

Oh! And I'm only adding .oga, .mp3, .m4a and wma files into the albums.
Any
other types I need to add?

I'll upload the code to intone.googlecode.com soon.
All feedback welcome. Thanks.
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Re: [SHR] latest unstabl;e WSOD!

Sorry not to know, but what is WSOD please ?
Thx

2009/4/5 Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com

 Dear Group,

 WSOD is back! Using the latest SHR unstable and after selecting 'suspend',
 WSOD shows up!

 Thanks

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ah, ok ! w, bad news

2009/4/5 Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com

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 Sorry not to know, but what is WSOD please ?
 Thx

 2009/4/5 Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com

 Dear Group,

 WSOD is back! Using the latest SHR unstable and after selecting
 'suspend', WSOD shows up!

 Thanks

 Tony



 White Screen Of Death!

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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

Hi again

I tried it . Here is the installation log:

opkg install xserver-kdrive-glamo xcompmgr qwo e-wm -force-depends
Package xserver-kdrive-glamo
(1:1.3.0.0+gitr9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r3.1) installed in
root is up to date.
Package xcompmgr (1.1.4-r0) installed in root is up to date.
Upgrading qwo on root from 0.4 to 0.4-r0...
Downloading
http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr/ipk/armv4t/qwo_0.4-r0_armv4t.ipk
Installing libimlib2-loaders (2:1.4.2.001+svnr38274-r0) to root...
Downloading
http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr/ipk/armv4t/libimlib2-loaders_1.4.2.001+svnr38274-r0_armv4t.ipk
Installing e-wm (0.16.999.050+svnr38274-r4) to root...
Downloading
http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr/ipk/armv4t/e-wm_0.16.999.050+svnr38274-r4_armv4t.ipk
Multiple replacers for e-wm-sysactions, using first one
(e-wm-sysactions-shr)
Multiple replacers for e-wm-sysactions, using first one
(e-wm-sysactions-shr)
Installing e-wm-menu (0.16.999.050+svnr38274-r4) to root...
Downloading
http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr/ipk/all/e-wm-menu_0.16.999.050+svnr38274-r4_all.ipk
Configuring e-wm
update-alternatives: Linking //usr/bin/x-window-manager to
/usr/bin/enlightenment_start.oe
Configuring e-wm-menu
Collected errors:
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/tiff.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/bz2.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/bmp.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/png.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/xpm.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/pnm.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/tga.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/lbm.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/jpeg.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/argb.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Package libimlib2-loaders wants to install file
/usr/lib/imlib2/loaders/zlib.so
But that file is already provided by package  * imlib2
 * Warning: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for e-wm:
 *  e-wm-utils *

Then I restarted, and lead the xcom script. It runs ok (no errors). But
when I open the keyboard, it is not transparent, and the circles from
u... clockwise or the way back just change the size. Have I really
installed your qwo package ? How can I check please

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Re: ffalarms 0.2.1 and atd-over-fso (now works on SHR-testing)

2009-04-04 Thread kimaidou

One question : is it possible to set a recurring alarm, eg each week day at
7:00 ? It would be a great feature
2 question : is it possible to increase the light as the sound to simulate a
down ?

Thanks anyway, great soft !

2009/4/4 Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org

 Am Sa  28. März 2009 schrieb Łukasz Pankowski:
  Hello
 
  I am the author of Finger friendly alarms [1].  Which I developed for
  Om 2008.12 up to version 0.2.
 
  I am happy to announce version 0.2.1 of ffalarms which adds support
  for SHR (tested on SHR testing) -- for this I ported atd to work on
  top of FSO Framework Time API (called atd-over-fso available from
  ffalarms download page [2]).  Version 0.2 also fixes Daylight Saving
  Time problem and adds several minor improvements, see [3] for
  installation instructions and detailed changes and [2] for downloads.
 
  Please report any problems or possible improvements (those may take
  long time to come :)).
 
  [1] http://ffalarms.projects.openmoko.org/
  [2] http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=260
  [3] http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/shownotes.php?release_id=488

 Hey great work! :)
 Have you considered to port cron as well as atd? I know it's a little bit
 more
 demanding task, as we might want to modify crontab semantics to distinguish
 between jobs that wake the phone and those who are handled the
 traditional
 way. Also FSO might want to see a dbus interface to cron for *setting* new
 alarms (if they make up their mind to move this functionality from the
 designated PIMD to cron where it belongs to IMHO)

 What's with batch(1) btw?

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Re: [openBmap] Version 0.2.0 released of the GSM cell, GPS logger

2009-04-04 Thread kimaidou

Hi

Thanks a lot for this !
I will report bugs if I see any.

Cheers
Kimaidou

2009/4/3 Onen onen...@free.fr

 Hello,

 ok, thanks for the explanations.

 Here you go:
 http://www.opkg.org/package_186.html

 Let me know if you see errors, possible improvements, etc...

 Onen

 kimaidou wrote:
  Hi
  About the advantages of opkg.org http://opkg.org
  * a software dedicated website, so that I can easily know the new and
  updated softs with rss feeds (I don't have to filter the new entries in
  the openmoko wiki and get lost among the amount of information)
  * a small description for each software (you can do this on a wiki page,
  I know), and each soft has the same description page template
  * at the moment, there is a small number of distro (SHR and OM are the
  most used), but this does not say that it will stay forever, so it could
  be hard to ask the developper of each new platform to integrate it on
  the repos
  * a lot of visitors
  * you do not have to store the ipk on opkg. A link or description to
  your repo is OK . So you can do both : put a description on opkg, and
  put the package in the distro feeds
 
I believe a portal containing a updated list of all softwares is great
  for the users who are not always connected to the mailing lists and
  wikis. For example, I saw the Hackable:A developpers have released a
  great rss reader application (
  https://trac.hackable1.org/trac/wiki/FeedReader ) . It could be used by
  users using another debian based distribution (fyp or other), but there
  is no way for them to know. If this app was in opkg, everyone would know
  (I know, this is not a good examplen, as opkg is only for ipk package
  and not deb, but you understand the meaning :D )
 
  Cheers
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Re: Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device

2009-04-03 Thread kimaidou

There are a lot of small usb convertissers :
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000TCSYFC/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8m=A88Q2E8PA1VAL
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B000TCSYES

I use them with my Keyboard and usb stick, and it workds well

Could someone give some link to working 3G usb dongles ?

Kimaidou

2009/4/3 Sander openm...@humilis.net

Justyn Butler wrote (ao):
2009/4/2 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org:
I bought the OpenMoko to get a more Free Software phone, not one that
gets less and less Free as new devices come up :)

Well due to the expense it is clear that no 3G device is going to be
Openmoko's main phone for a long time. No one is going to stop anyone
buying a non-3G Openmoko phone.

What this is suggesting, I suppose, is a 3G derivative if there was
serious demand (or should I say, concrete demand in the form of a
large order. I personally demand it quite seriously!).
While it is a shame that the 3G part would be closed, it would clearly
be a legal necessity. It would be that or no 3G version at all.

What about a FR without 3G but with a 'normal' size USB2.0 port in which
you can plug a 3G dongle?

This has several advantages:

o FR would be more free
o FR would be less expensive
o only one expensive heavy duty 3G contract for both your FR and your
laptop
o upgrading of 3G without the need for upgrading the FR

FR would still have GPRS in this scenario.

The USB port would be on the edge of the FR where we find the AUX button
now. This would make the dongle point more or less upwards in both
landscape and portrait mode.

Related to this I'm looking for a converter between the small USB port
on the FR and a 3G USB dongle (or a USB keyboard). I've searched but not
found any. Any tips?

With kind regards, Sander

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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

2009-04-03 Thread kimaidou

Hi

thanks for you reply. I would need some more help before running the
installation process. I will write a wiki page on openmoko.org when
succeeded.
My questions inside your text :

2009/4/3 Richard Kralovic r...@om.ksp.sk

  I would like to know if there were some progress on easily installing
  the transparent keyboard (qwo or anyone else) on SHR distribution.
  I think the SHR distro could really benefit on this !

 Well, not much of progress. Some time ago, I set up an ipk feed for
 shr-unstable that I compiled myself, with all the patched stuff:
 http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr-unstablehttp://meru.inf.ethz.ch/%7Erkralovi/shr-unstable

 There are also feeds for shr testing
 http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shrhttp://meru.inf.ethz.ch/%7Erkralovi/shr


I will use this since I run SHR testing



 and FSO milestone 5 (which is what I am currently using, so it's
 probably in a best shape):
 http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/fso-ms5http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/%7Erkralovi/fso-ms5


I think SHR testing uses FSO5, so I have nothing to install, right ?


 So, basically it should just work if you add this to your opkg feeds:

 src/gz meru-all http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr-unstable/ipk/all
 src/gz 
 http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/%7Erkralovi/shr-unstable/ipk/all%0Asrc/gzmeru-armv4t
 http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t
 src/gzhttp://meru.inf.ethz.ch/%7Erkralovi/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t%0Asrc/gzmeru-om-gta02
 http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/~rkralovi/shr-unstable/ipk/om-gta02http://meru.inf.ethz.ch/%7Erkralovi/shr-unstable/ipk/om-gta02


Are these lines command lines ? What should I copy / paste to my terminal to
add the correct feeds ?

After this, I will run opkg update



 Then you can just follow the instructions at
 http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/index.htmlhttp://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/%7Eriso/Openmoko/qwo/index.html
 and install all packages just by opkg install.


Is this correct (or do I need to add some more command lines ?):

#installing xserver-kdrive-glamo  xcompmgr
opkg install
http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/xserver-kdrive-glamo_1.3.0.0+gitr9b28d998424c77fbc057dd3a022ccbb122793a52-r3_armv4t.ipk
http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/xcompmgr_1.1.4-r0_armv4t.ipk

#modifiy the file */etc/X11/Xserver
nano **/etc/X11/Xserver
And add *ARGS=$ARGS +extension Composite

#creating a file to launch xcompmgr and load it
echo xcompmgr   /etc/X11/Xsession.d/xcompmgr_start
chmod +x /etc/X11/Xsession.d/xcompmgr_start
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/xcompmgr_start

#install qwo (+ imlib2 + libconfig)  e-wm
opkg install
http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/496/imlib2_1.4.1_armv4t.ipk
http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/497/libconfig_1.3.1_armv4t.ipk
http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/qwo_0.4-r0_armv4t.ipk
http://kedrigern.dcs.fmph.uniba.sk/~riso/Openmoko/qwo/e-wm_0.16.999.050+svnr38544-r3_armv4t.ipk

This is all I understoof reading your email and the webpage. Can you please
comment / modify it ?

thanks !



 But beware, the patch for illume breaks the default keyboard (since it
 does not set the width of it and does not resize the application area).
 So be ready to install the old version of e-wm if you do not like
 transparent qwo. I didn't find time to make a nicer patch on e-wm yet
 (it is on my todolist, but quite deep, so patches are welcome)...

 Greets
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Re: [openBmap] Version 0.2.0 released of the GSM cell, GPS logger

Thanks a lot for this new version. I would like to know if you could create
a new page in opkg.org for easily follow, install and upgrade it !

Thanks in advance

Kimaidou

2009/3/30 Onen onen...@free.fr

Hello,

the new version of the logger is out. This is a major step: you can now
do the complete process (log, upload, delete processed logs)
graphically! No need to edit any file.

WHAT'S NEW SINCE 0.1?
* Now displays GSM data at startup. No need to wait for network
update.
* Before upload, login/password graphical interface added.
* After upload, asks about deleting all processed log files.
* Requests CPU ressource to prevent phone from going to suspend (this
depends on the configuration of the phone...).
* Do not log if a call is ongoing. The reasons are:
- when in a call org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.GetStatus()
returns a lower signal strength.
- org.freesmartphone.GSM.Monitor.GetNeighbourCellInformation()
returns garbage when in a call.
* Software id and version added in generated logs

Another major point is the beta support of neighbour cells logging.
Following comments made on this list (thanks Yorick, Olivier and Helge
and sorry if I forget others), I have changed my mind and the code is
ready in this release. But deactivated. The reasons are:
- we need to clarify the meaning of some fields
- we need to clarify if there is no risk of mixing cells and
MCC/MNC at the borders.
The idea will be to keep track if a logged cell was serving, or
neighbour. This will let us experiment with ways of building coverage
areas, and specify algorithms.

Thanks Stefan, the application is already in the feeds:

http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/openbmap-logger_0.2.0-r1_armv4t.ipk
= opkg install/upgrade openbmap-logger

Ipk, tar, git can be found at:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=218065package_id=310952
http://myposition.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=myposition

Following is a part of the README. You will find a summary of the
project, and the manual with some details about the configuration file
if you want total control of your application.

Onen

SUMMARY:
OpenBmap is a free and open map of wireless communicating objects
(e.g. cellular antenna, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth). It provides tools to
mutualize data, create and access this map.
The purpose of this software is to log GSM data, together with
GPS coordinate. This data are sent to the website (www.openbmap.org),
in order to build a free database. In order to keep a high quality
of data, we store GPS quality, speed, GSM signal strength, etc...
Possible use of this database:
* get your location based on the current GSM cell you are connected to.
(GPS needs extra power to function, GSM is always on. Less precise
than GPS, but enough for a lot of usages. Instant location, GPS
needs time to get a fix.)
* speed up GPS first time to fix by providing the location based
on GSM data
* geolocate your photos when taken
* get a map of GSM coverage
* get a map of 2, 2.5, 3G coverage (not yet implemented)
* ...

What you should expect:
* The complete process is done through graphical interface.
* Requests CPU ressource to prevent phone from going to suspend (this
depends on the configuration of the phone...).
* generation of logs (no log during a call)
* Graphical window to enter login/password before upload (possibility
to cancel upload).
* upload of logs
* Graphical window proposing to delete all logs already processed.

MANUAL:
Interface is straightforward.

Note: The GPS is started as soon as the application is launched.
And it keeps running if the application is logging or not. This
is to prevent losing the GPS position if you pause your logging.
You have to exit the application in order to stop the GPS.

* A button to start generating logs. Values will be displayed when
valid. Logs are stored under HOME/.openBmap/Logs by default.

* A button to stop generating logs.

* A button to upload.
This pops a window up, which displays the current login/password.
Please modify it before pressing 'ok' button if needed. You can
cancel upload by pressing 'cancel'.

If you press 'ok', this will block the interface until every log
has been uploaded. This means that if you do not have Internet
connection up and running, the GUI will be frozen until timeout of
the upload part.

After successful upload, the logs are moved to
HOME/.openBmap/Processed_logs by default.

When upload is finished, the result is first displayed (how many logs
have been uploaded out of how many available).
Then a popup window will propose you to delete all (this includes
possible logs from previous upload) the processed logs (located in
HOME/.openBmap/Processed_logs by default).

Warning: you should create an account on realtimeblog.free.fr
website, and fill a correct login/password in the popup window
displayed before upload works.

* A button to exit

Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

Hi lists,

I would like to know if there were some progress on easily installing the
transparent keyboard (qwo or anyone else) on SHR distribution.
I think the SHR distro could really benefit on this !

Thanks for any news

Kimaidou

2009/3/12 Richard Kralovic r...@om.ksp.sk

  ... so it's working in 2008.12 - I can supply my patched build of
  illume.ipk if anyone wants it - the only problem being the qtopia

 Great :-). If you wish, send it to me and I can add it to my webpage...

  Options and Back buttons etc attached to the display bottom always
  show on top of...

 I know next to nothing about illume internals, but I'd try to change the
 parameter of e_border_layer_set in illume.c from 100 to something higher.

  Now gotta figure out how to prevent that, or bring qwo even further
  forward...

 The illume patches are really just nasty hacks, I'd love to have some
 neat patch on illume that automatically checks the X11 atoms of the
 keyboard and adjusts its behaviour according to that. With that, we
 might be able to persuade the SHR guys (or even Raster) to accept it.
 But I do not have much time for that right now :-(.

 Greets
Richard


 
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Re: Transparent keyboard in illume

This is great news indeed. Humm...sorry for this, but could you please
reexplain the different steps to install the qwo transparent keyboard on my
SHR ? I am an end user, and it is a bit hard to understand for me. The best
would be to provide an ipk package if possible.

Thanks a lot !

2009/4/2 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com

 SHR has patch for Xglamo about Composite extension included, so you
 musn't take care about that. Only install what you want ;)

 2009/4/2, kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com:
  Hi lists,
 
  I would like to know if there were some progress on easily installing the
  transparent keyboard (qwo or anyone else) on SHR distribution.
  I think the SHR distro could really benefit on this !
 
  Thanks for any news
 
  Kimaidou
 
  2009/3/12 Richard Kralovic r...@om.ksp.sk
 
   ... so it's working in 2008.12 - I can supply my patched build of
   illume.ipk if anyone wants it - the only problem being the qtopia
 
  Great :-). If you wish, send it to me and I can add it to my webpage...
 
   Options and Back buttons etc attached to the display bottom always
   show on top of...
 
  I know next to nothing about illume internals, but I'd try to change the
  parameter of e_border_layer_set in illume.c from 100 to something
 higher.
 
   Now gotta figure out how to prevent that, or bring qwo even further
   forward...
 
  The illume patches are really just nasty hacks, I'd love to have some
  neat patch on illume that automatically checks the X11 atoms of the
  keyboard and adjusts its behaviour according to that. With that, we
  might be able to persuade the SHR guys (or even Raster) to accept it.
  But I do not have much time for that right now :-(.
 
  Greets
 Richard
 
 
  
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Re: [openBmap] Version 0.2.0 released of the GSM cell, GPS logger

Hi
About the advantages of opkg.org
* a software dedicated website, so that I can easily know the new and
updated softs with rss feeds (I don't have to filter the new entries in the
openmoko wiki and get lost among the amount of information)
* a small description for each software (you can do this on a wiki page, I
know), and each soft has the same description page template
* at the moment, there is a small number of distro (SHR and OM are the most
used), but this does not say that it will stay forever, so it could be hard
to ask the developper of each new platform to integrate it on the repos
* a lot of visitors
* you do not have to store the ipk on opkg. A link or description to your
repo is OK . So you can do both : put a description on opkg, and put the
package in the distro feeds

  I believe a portal containing a updated list of all softwares is great for
the users who are not always connected to the mailing lists and wikis. For
example, I saw the Hackable:A developpers have released a great rss reader
application ( https://trac.hackable1.org/trac/wiki/FeedReader ) . It could
be used by users using another debian based distribution (fyp or other), but
there is no way for them to know. If this app was in opkg, everyone would
know (I know, this is not a good examplen, as opkg is only for ipk package
and not deb, but you understand the meaning :D )

Cheers
Kimaidou

2009/4/2 Onen onen...@free.fr

 Hi,

 if you have comments and/or suggestions about this release or future
 evolution feel free to contact me!

 Well so far what I have tried is to get the package directly into the
 feeds. This is the case for OM:

 http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/unstable/armv4t/openbmap-logger_0.2.0-r1_armv4t.ipk

 I am talking to SHR guys to get it in their repository too.

 But if opkg.org brings something more, I will gladly do this. Thus,
 would you explain me what creating a page on opkg.org would bring more?

 Thanks,

 Onen

 kimaidou wrote:
  Hi
 
  Thanks a lot for this new version. I would like to know if you could
  create a new page in opkg.org http://opkg.org for easily follow,
  install and upgrade it !
 
  Thanks in advance
 
  Kimaidou
 
  2009/3/30 Onen onen.om http://onen.om@free.fr http://free.fr
 
  Hello,
 
  the new version of the logger is out. This is a major step: you can
 now
  do the complete process (log, upload, delete processed logs)
  graphically! No need to edit any file.
 
  WHAT'S NEW SINCE 0.1?
 


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Re: Solar charger

2009-03-30 Thread kimaidou

Oh..did not know this... And why ? It is a real shame, no ?

2009/3/30 Bastian Muck bastian.m...@gmx.de

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 If Neo charged in suspend you would be right. But Neo does not charge
 in suspend.

 Greetungs Bastian

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Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..

2009-03-28 Thread kimaidou

Hi all

I think the Hackable:1 distribution uses a quite efficient and quick way to
organize the applications icons : a home screen with only the most used
applications (now dates, contacts, dialer), and another screen with a list
containing the categories. When selecting an item on the list, you get the
filtered icons.

Why not using this kind of menu for other distributions ?

Kimaidou

2009/3/28 Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl

 Martino wrote:
  Thanks to evry body..
  @Fernando:
  For example can you use frequently some apps from 2 different category
  and take open the 2 category (but I know the problem can be solve
  using a favorite category..).. It' only an idea.. :D
 
 A favorites is nice but I would like to have a sliding toolbar (like in
 illume config) where the common apps are shown as icons. Then the tabbed
 interface would show the full collection and allow me to drag and drop
 icons from there into the toolbar.

 Regards,
 Fernando

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Voicenote - If someone wants to keep it alive...

2009-03-20 Thread kimaidou

Hi Rask

Thanks for your comment. I will take it into account if I release a new
version. But this has a low probability to happen

I would like to tell the community I won't have time to go further on this
small project. So:
* I won't participate in the contest for the best voice recorder tool.
* I won't maintain it

So if someone, or a group of people, wants to improve it / participate to
the contest / merge the project with another, etc., this would be good :
Feel free to download the sources :
http://kimaidou.kilu.de/openmoko/voicenote/voicenote_0.4_source.tar.gz
and modifify the wiki page:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Voicenote

cheers
Kimaidou
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Re: Siglaunchd , dbus and scan the content of incomming SMS

Hi all

I resend my last email about siglaunchd. Could anyone please help me ? The
best would be to contact the author directly (Tom Haconen), but I have not
found his email.
Thanks in advance

Kimaidou

2009/3/12 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com

 Hi lists,

 I am using *siglaunchd* tool ( 1) . It is a great tool. I already set up
 some actions (2) wich improve a lot my openmoko usability (nb: the code is
 in italic in this email)

 I need your help to trigger the following actions :

 * Do an action when receiving a sms containing e.G mypasswd. For now, I
 tried
 *#on incomming SMS
 DISPLAY=:0.0 echo test 
 /home/root/Scripts/message.txt=org.freesmartphone.GSM.SMS;org.freesmartphone.ogsmd;/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device;IncomingMessage;
 *

 -- It does not react (no file created) + it lacks content reading

 * Store each phonenumber for each incomming call (just for testing). For
 now, I can do
 *#on incomming call from 00
 DISPLAY=:0.0 echo $(date +%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M-%S) 
 /home/root/Scripts/call.txt=org.freesmartphone.GSM.Call;org.freesmartphone.ogsmd;/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device;CallStatus;arg[1]=incoming
 *

 -- pbm here : I do not know how to put the phone number in my echo
 command.

 * Change profile from default to silent when the phone is for example
 face down on a table
 -- anyway to do this with dbus ?

 Well, I think this capacity of dbus is a huge space to conquer (for me). We
 are only limited by our imagination :D  Openmoko is great !
 Anyway, thanks in advance

 Kimaidou

 (1) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Siglaunchd

 (2) Here is my /home/root/.siglaunchd.conf  (Caution, I am running SHR,
 last testing )

 *#AUX moyen -- dialer
 DISPLAY=:0.0
 /usr/bin/openmoko-dialer=org.freesmartphone.Device.Input;org.freesmartphone.oeventsd;/org/freesmartphone/Device/Input;Event;arg[0]=AUX,arg[1]=released,arg[2]0,
 arg[2]2

 #AUX long -- terminal
 DISPLAY=:0.0
 /usr/bin/vala-terminal=org.freesmartphone.Device.Input;org.freesmartphone.oeventsd;/org/freesmartphone/Device/Input;Event;arg[0]=AUX,arg[1]=released,arg[2]1

 #POWER moyen -- shortom
 DISPLAY=:0.0 PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/shortom
 shortom-bin=org.freesmartphone.Device.Input;org.freesmartphone.oeventsd;/org/freesmartphone/Device/Input;Event;arg[0]=POWER,
 arg[1]=released, arg[2]0, arg[2]2

 #POWER long -- shr-settings
 DISPLAY=:0.0
 /usr/bin/shr-settings=org.freesmartphone.Device.Input;org.freesmartphone.oeventsd;/org/freesmartphone/Device/Input;Event;arg[0]=POWER,
 arg[1]=released, arg[2]1*




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Re: gvSIG Mobile on Openmoko

Hi all

Thanks to the command line (one line) Francesco da Virgilo gaves in his
email :
r...@om-gta02 ~ $ jamvm -Xmx40M -cp
/usr/share/java/swt.jar:/usr/share/gv-om/class/all.jar
es/prodevelop/gvsig/mobile/app/Launcher fr /usr/share/gv-om /media/card

I am able to run it on SHR too. This is a great step for mobile GIS
solutions ! Thanks to the developpers !

Kimaidou
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Re: [SHR] Howto configure GPRS

Hi pander,

First, you need to load the ppp modules

echo ppp-generic  /etc/modutils/ppp-generic
update-modules


For me the easiest way to connect and disconnect to my GPRS provider (
mmsbouygtel.com) is to load theses scripts using dbus commands:

To connect (you must chmod +x the script, and replace mygprs_address by
yours, e.g mmsbouygtel.com for me; the x x at the end must be replaced by
login password if you need them.)

#!/bin/sh
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.ActivateContext mygprs_address x x

To disconnect, just use (after chmod +x )

#!/bin/sh
#gprsoff
mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ogsmd /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device
org.freesmartphone.GSM.PDP.DeactivateContext



2009/3/16 Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net

 Hi all,

 Many information is available on GPRS but the things I've tested scripts
 from the Wiki were probably outdated, or I used them wrongly because I
 was/am in the woods on debugging or tracing GPRS software. So, ...

 How can one configure GPRS on SHR (latest testing). I'm willing to make
 good and tested documentation for the Wiki if someone can tell me how to
 get started and what to do exactly plus describing how to test each step.

 Also, what will happen if you have network via usb, wifi and GPRS at the
 same time? Will SHR be able to cope with all that or do you as a user
 should avoid such a situation for now? In which order will the network
 connection be selected?

 Thanks,

 Pander

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Updated zenity package ?

Hi list

I need some help about zenity. I use it for my small application voicenote
(1), and for now I told people to use this package:
opkg install
http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk
wich is too old : I get some errors when installing voicenote under last SHR
testing:

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install
http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/a
rmv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk alsa-utils-aplay
http://www.opkg.org/packages/
voicenote_0.4_arm.ipk
Downloading
http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/packages/armv4t/zenity_2.20.1-r0_armv4t.ipk
Downloading http://www.opkg.org/packages/voicenote_0.4_arm.ipk
Installing zenity (2.20.1-r0) to root...
Package alsa-utils-aplay (1.0.15-r1) installed in root is up to date.
Installing voicenote (0.4) to root...
Installing zenity (2.20.1-r0) to root...
Configuring voicenote
Configuring zenity
Collected errors:
 * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for zenity:
 *  libgnomecanvas-2-0 *  libgnomecanvas-2-0 (= 2.20.0) *
gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) *  libnotify (= 0.4.4) *

Does someone knows where I can find a newer package for zenity ?
Can someone build it please ?
Is it just a SHR problem, or does this error also occur on Om distributions
?

Thanks in advance

Kimaidou
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Re: Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?

Oups, sorry I just had not thought there was some help !
Thanks a lot, it works well.

I think you should package it into an simple ipk file, and put it on
opkg.org, so that everybody can enjoy it !

Anyway thanks a lot

Kimaidou

2009/3/13 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us

 On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:17:13 +0100
 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi!
 
  Hum, I tried again, and from SSH too, but the command
  /home/root/Scripts/illume-kbd-show does not hide the keyboard if it
  is here. Could you send by email the binary you are using ? (if
  possible) NB: I am using this file :
  http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/openmoko/illume-kbd-show
 
  Thanks
  Kimaidou

 --help gives some hints... ;)  Try illume-kbd-show -t (for 'toggle')

 j

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Re: [SHR-Testing] Slow response when answering a call

Hi all

I just made up a small script here :

#!/bin/sh
cp /usr/share/applications/openmoko-dialer.desktop
/tmp/openmoko-dialer.desktop
sleep 5
cp /tmp/openmoko-dialer.desktop
/usr/share/applications/openmoko-dialer.desktop

Is it ok ? If so, how can automatically load it after startup ? For now, I
am loading it with shortom.

Kimaidou

2009/3/13 Cameron Frazier frazier.came...@gmail.com

 On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 22:07 -0500, The Digital Pioneer wrote:
  Well, that was almost more than I had dared hope for! This begs the
  question, how best to I set it up to run a script as soon as the GUI
  is done loading? It would probably be best to put a sleep 5 or so at
  the beginning, but I'd rather have it run after E is initialized.

 I too agree, having this voodoo incanted shortly after e init would be
 rather handy.

 I just tried it, and the delay dropped to only a second or two total, so
 a vast improvement.  I suppose it will get better when the framework
 moves to a compiled language for FSO M6 (IIRC).

 Thanks for the info guys,

 Kind regards,

 Cameron



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Re: [debian] Installing .ipk/.opk part 1: Dependencies

Hi list

I think also it would be easier and much better to create deb packages. I
think the opkg.org website is a very good portal for the dynamism of the
community. Why not:
* modifiy opkg.org so that for each software, we have 2 text boxes on the
right side (where you copy.cut the installation command) : one for ipk, one
for deb.
* add a Help developper to package page in this website, with a tar
containing a foobar application : one for ipk (with ipkg-build), one for
debian (I do not know yet what to use :D )

This way everyone can really have the choice of distribution without lacking
of openmoko oriented softwares.

What do you think ?

Kimaidou

2009/3/12 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi

 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk writes:
  Nice it would be grat in future if we (debian users) could just add opkg
  repos as deb ones...  maybe with different priority... it may be
 difficult
  and risky, but indeed useful!

 Wouldn't it be much easier to just create real debian packages?

 If you have some example programs I can give examples of how you can
 create unofficial debian packages of those.


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