Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-25 Thread Attila Csipa
On Friday 25 May 2007 13:37, Sven Neuhaus wrote: The software seems a lot worse than the hardware at the moment. Every reaction to user input is slow. The GUI is quite pretty but the speed is worrysome. What CPU is going to be in the upcoming faster version? I would not be surprised to hear

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-25 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On May 25, 2007, at 9:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 25 May 2007 13:37, Sven Neuhaus wrote: The software seems a lot worse than the hardware at the moment. Every reaction to user input is slow. The GUI is quite pretty but the speed is worrysome. What CPU is going to be in the

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-16 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
Hello, I've just done a fast sizeasy comparison: http://www.sizeasy.com/page/comp/1840 And, yes, the Neo1973 is big! 2007/5/16, Tim Newsom [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, 15 May 2007 22:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007, Tigran Zakoyan wrote: Jason Elwell wrote: I dont know

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-16 Thread Peter A Trotter
Nice Jose, I added the Sidekick3 dimensions... http://www.sizeasy.com/page/comp/1842 -Pete On 16/05/07, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've just done a fast sizeasy comparison: http://www.sizeasy.com/page/comp/1840 And, yes, the Neo1973 is big! 2007/5/16,

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-16 Thread Tim Newsom
Thanks, that helps quite a bit. But if that's accurate, the neo is not that big. The sidekick 3 is slightly smaller and thinner than a sidekick 2 (my current phone) and the neo is considerably smaller than that... Maybe its large to someone who uses a flip phone or set616 type phone. To

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-16 Thread Duncan Hudson
Christopher Tokarczyk wrote: not having a neo yet I can't comment on how it actually performs now, but I just think it's worth pointing out that this is still very very early. personally, i'm not too worried because i have faith that once the phones are out and the community at large has a crack

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-16 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Why do we keep saying it's still early? The phone was due in March, and it's now not going to ship (if we're lucky) until June. It's not early, it's late! Yes, the hardware has had issues, and yes we want it right, but the software should have been ready to go in March when it was

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-15 Thread Tigran Zakoyan
Jason Elwell wrote: I dont know whats more sad... You creating a paperdoll of an OpenMoko, or the fact that I downloaded it and made one for myself! LOL! Me too :) BTW, can't agree 1973 is too big. It just fits the size of my QTEKs110, which size's been really handy for me two years I use

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-15 Thread Denis Parchenko
Hello Community, I am reading this mailing list about a month. And finally here is my first post :) Can any of happy neo1973 owners talk about its audio quality? Comparing sound quality to iPod or SonyEricsson K750/W800/W810 with their native headphones (using known non-professional

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-15 Thread Jason Elwell
Denis, There are not many neo1973 owners yet. Only about 36 developers have received a free phone. From what we hear, there is alot of work still to be be done on the basic software. Hopefully in the the very near future, FIC will begin selling to the rest of the development community so

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-15 Thread Tomasz Zielinski
2007/5/14, Ole Tange [EMAIL PROTECTED]: = Software = Software is very limited at this point: I have yet to place my first call using the phone. Features and overall software quality can (and will) improve in future, but poor performance worries me much. Long time ago I had Palm III which had

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-15 Thread Christopher Tokarczyk
not having a neo yet I can't comment on how it actually performs now, but I just think it's worth pointing out that this is still very very early. personally, i'm not too worried because i have faith that once the phones are out and the community at large has a crack at them, things will improve.

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-15 Thread Tim Newsom
On Tue, 15 May 2007 22:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007, Tigran Zakoyan wrote: Jason Elwell wrote: I dont know whats more sad... You creating a paperdoll of an OpenMoko, or the fact that I downloaded it and made one for myself! LOL! Me too :) BTW, can't agree 1973 is

First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-14 Thread Ole Tange
= Hardware = == Size == The phone is BIG. There is no other word for it. It makes it even worse when you open the phone and see that a lot of space is wasted: Half of the thickness is taken by the battery, a very small vibrator, 2 small loud speakers and half of the 2 antennas - leaving 50% of

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-14 Thread Ole Tange
On 5/14/07, Ole Tange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Hardware = I have been asked which phone versions this covers Phone version: GTA01B_V3 and GTA01B_V4 Both are phase-0 phones. /Ole ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-14 Thread Steven **
On 5/14/07, Ole Tange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So to me the following actions should be put on the left side: left, undo, back, cancel, previous, no, reject-call and these should be put on the right hand side: right, apply, forward, OK, next, yes, answer-call, do-it I just want to point

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-14 Thread Piotr Duda
From all phones I saw being sold in Europe (and few years ago in Asia) only Motorola (and not in all models) use the reject-on-left and answer-on-right style. Maybe Im mistaken but I always tought that all others just do the oposite? Have no idea where did it come from, considering that first

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-14 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd.
Piotr Duda napisał(a): models) use the reject-on-left and answer-on-right style. Maybe Im mistaken but I always tought that all others just do the oposite? Have no idea where did it come from, considering that first mobile phones was made in Motorola as I believe, and others perhaps should

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-14 Thread Vincent
On 14/05/07, Piotr Duda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From all phones I saw being sold in Europe (and few years ago in Asia) only Motorola (and not in all models) use the reject-on-left and answer-on-right style. Maybe Im mistaken but I always tought that all others just do the oposite? Have no idea

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-14 Thread Mikko J Rauhala
On ma, 2007-05-14 at 07:21 -0500, Steven ** wrote: It also occurs to me that in an OK/Cancel dialog, OK is always on the left. So again, consistency would suggest leaving it that way. OpenMoko uses GTK, which per default uses the Mac-style OK on bottom right approach, which I find to be better

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-14 Thread John Locke
Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. wrote: Piotr Duda napisał(a): models) use the reject-on-left and answer-on-right style. Maybe Im mistaken but I always tought that all others just do the oposite? Have no idea where did it come from, considering that first mobile phones was made in

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-14 Thread Hans van der Merwe
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 15:53 +0200, Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. wrote: Piotr Duda napisał(a): models) use the reject-on-left and answer-on-right style. Maybe Im mistaken but I always tought that all others just do the oposite? Have no idea where did it come from, considering

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-14 Thread mathew davis
I would be interested to know what you thought were strong suits of the phone. Programs you liked, and other things that the phone does well. Just curious I guess. I like hearing about the phone from people who have actual models. Thanks, Matt ___

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-14 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
The same for me. Especially I'm interessted in the speed, the phone functions (address book, dialer, history, ...) and the voice quality. 2007/5/14, mathew davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would be interested to know what you thought were strong suits of the phone. Programs you liked, and other

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-14 Thread el jefe delito
I too would love to hear more about the phone, even if its an early release. Take it outside for us, and tell us about the sunlight reading! Send us a photo of it being 'big', maybe in comparison to another phone or a soda can or mouse pad! Does anyone know if there are plans for the final

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-14 Thread Ole Tange
On 5/14/07, mathew davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would be interested to know what you thought were strong suits of the phone. Programs you liked, and other things that the phone does well. Just curious I guess. I like hearing about the phone from people who have actual models. It is a

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-14 Thread Jason Elwell
I dont know whats more sad... You creating a paperdoll of an OpenMoko, or the fact that I downloaded it and made one for myself! LOL! Hopefully it will confort me till I get the real thing. :) -Jason On Monday 14 May 2007 15:40:31 Ole Tange wrote: On 5/14/07, mathew davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]