Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schreef:
Just a question: will the OpenMoko come with FB and/or X11?
As a general note to the mailinglist: All official info is
available from
http://www.openmoko.com/press/index.html
As a note to people wondering about the software used:
http://www.openmoko.com
Am 18.01.2007 um 08:47 schrieb Gabriel Ambuehl:
On Thursday 18 January 2007 07:39, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know what it is about the guy who posted this thread, but
I really
think that he's got some sort of talent for getting people
talking. I
Well, my impression was that the
Maybe those (German text only, sorry): http://www.phonetracker.de/
Anwendungen/anw_personen.html
Am 19.01.2007 um 11:05 schrieb Ole Tange:
Hi Dean.
You have written a comment on the wiki on the child tracker.
http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/ideas/ChildTracker
You mention the idea
What about using Google Groups?
Bleah. All the inconvenience of a BB/forum combined with all the
drawbacks
of web based email.
Killer phrase detected/
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Am 20.01.2007 um 12:10 schrieb Renaissance Man:
Presumably there will be no compatibility with Mac OS X (incl.
Address Book, iCal, iPhoto, iSync, dotMac email) when the Neo1973
ships, but is such support in the works at all?
Yes, since 3 years :-)
Presumably there will be no compatibility with Mac OS X (incl.
Address Book, iCal, iPhoto, iSync, dotMac email) when the Neo1973
ships, but is such support in the works at all?
Address Book, iCal, iPhoto, etc all hook into OS X's SyncServices
framework
through native API goodness. iSync then
Good to hear there are developers keen on making the it just
works work for normal users, I'm moving more and more from a
technical geek to a just need it to work for me user:-). Also very
pleasing to see there is a lot of Mac users interested in this
project. I assume many others will
Am 21.01.2007 um 15:16 schrieb tony:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Sharing applications is much more complex and more or less means
removing some parts of OpenMoko (e.g. GTK, the built in
applications) and replacing with a MacOS/Cocoa compatible software
layer. The best thing
Am 21.01.2007 um 18:17 schrieb Uwe Koch:
I think it must be possible to integrate 3 neccessary LEDs into the
next gen
Neo, and display the Display - say on a letter format size - to a
white wall!
3 LEDs is not enough. You need something to make the beam scan the
wall rectangle you want
I have simply trained my Bayesian Spam filter...
Am 27.01.2007 um 18:04 schrieb Jonathon Suggs:
Can we PLEASE keep the posts to the entire list ON TOPIC!!!
The last few digest have all been about licensing, personal
agendas, and
discussion NOT related to OpenMoko. And just in case you
If you have not yet recognized, Sean is giving a talk at FOSDEM 2007:
http://www.fosdem.org/2007/schedule/events/embedded_openmoko
I will also be there to discuss how to turn the OpenMoko into an Open
iPhone based on GNUstep: http://www.fosdem.org/2007/schedule/events/
gnustep_embedded
Michael,
While one -can- get OE/BB running under OSX, at least
theoretically, it's not as simple as doing it under Linux
shouldn't we just join forces and craft an Installer package for
getting OE installed directly on a Mac?
IMHO, needing to install some VM and a full Linux one of the
Am 21.02.2007 um 13:43 schrieb Gabriel Ambuehl:
On Wednesday 21 February 2007 13:06:25 Stefan Schmidt wrote:
http://www.e28.com/e28mobile/mobile_e2861.htm
http://www.e28.com/e28mobile/mobile_e2862.htm
http://www.e28.com/e28mobile/mobile_e2881.htm
The e2881 would be a perfect match for me
Sean,
thank you *very* much for your openness in this aspect as well!
The latest hardware spin -- GTA01B_V4 was supposed to fix the few
remaining issues keeping us from setting phones free; but, we
uncovered
some other issues.
From my own experience in the Mobile Phone business, I know
AM, Jonas Berlin wrote:
Quoting Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller on 04/02/2007 07:29 AM UTC:
I think that the Neo is also seen as some competition to the
iPhone -
and Apple
is known for high hardware quality standards.
Now please, this is some illusion.. I've had heard of many
problems with apple
available. Until then, I'll read over the wiki and attempt to setup a
development environment in a VM on my MacBook.
Please write a description how that really works!
I am working to make a setup (MacOE) on native MacOS X but failed
so far.
Nikolaus
Am 18.04.2007 um 19:02 schrieb Matthew S. Hamrick:
I think maybe we need a new version of Godwin's law... any
discussion about scripting languages should stop as soon as someone
mentions Lisp (or Smalltalk.)
Well, as a Mac addict, I propose to consider AppleScript, Automator
and
Am 20.04.2007 um 08:48 schrieb Raphaël Jacquot:
I'm still wondering *why* we need to use an AGPS device that's so dumb
that it needs the *host* to do most of the calculations, when we could
have used a SIRF-STAR III sensor, that does everything inside, just
like
the GSM/GPRS module.
I
Am 03.05.2007 um 13:32 schrieb Ian Stirling:
wim delvaux wrote:
FWIW,
most of these 'light' phones do seem so 'fragile'. It looks like
any drop from pocket or table might smash them to bits. Less
weight generally means more flimsy devices.
No. It is easy to make a fragile looking
Am 11.05.2007 um 17:50 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
An interesting project has started within GNUstep: SimpleWebKit. It
is a simplified rework of the full WebKit API completely written in
Objective-C (which requires Objective-C++ to compile). Footprint is
quite small: the Linux ARM
.
But as said before: it needs a clear definition. Am I counted as a
FOSS user if I use a Motorola A760?
Nikolaus Schaller
Am 12.05.2007 um 13:12 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
Am 12.05.2007 um 13:11 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
Well,
you could try to compare the participation of some OSS
Am 12.05.2007 um 13:11 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
Well,
you could try to compare the participation of some OSS developer
related events (e.g. FOSDEM) to MS Developer Conference(s) or Apple
WWDC. Then you need the total number of (software) developers
worldwide and a simple
Am 15.05.2007 um 14:37 schrieb el jefe delito:
Right, the first version isn't supposed to be a mass market
consumer device. But I believe the intention
is that the version that was intended to ship in September was to
be a
mass market device.
I was under the impression that this phone
Why do we keep saying it's still early? The phone was due in
March, and it's now not going to ship (if we're lucky) until June.
It's not early, it's late! Yes, the hardware has had issues, and
yes we want it right, but the software should have been ready to go
in March when it was
I had really forgotten about FCC approval until I saw the iPhone
certification story. Then it drove home the point that if FIC
hasn't started FCC the certification yet the delivery date (at
least in the US) is going to slip again.
Well, I assume that FIC - having built computers for many
Am 21.05.2007 um 04:57 schrieb Joe Friedrichsen:
It would be great to know if any of the P0 folks are US-based as well.
The majority sound European, save Rod :-)
Well, the EU has similar rules but there is no central FCC. It is
called CE and the entity (you personally, a distributor, a
Am 10.06.2007 um 23:10 schrieb Thomas Gstädtner:
That would explain why Intel sold XScale :)
Exactly :)
IHMO there is a direct relation between the instruction set and the
power consumption:
The more complex a processor is the more power it needs.
Yes.
Let's explain it the easy (and
If I read the announcement of Sean correctly,
* only the GTA1 device will be 300 US$ and will be shipped directly
from Taiwan.
* the GTA2 devices will have local distributors and will cost 450 US$.
Secondly,
a distributor has to handle warranty and marketing, answer phone
calls, do
So... the question is...
a) is it possible to convince Nathan or Gordon to sell these
things through their websites for $65 - $147?
I can sell it through my website: http://www.handheld-linux.com
although I currently focus on the European markets only (due to tax
and duty complexity).
Am 04.07.2007 um 16:53 schrieb Frederic Kettelhoit:
the iPhone has a proximity sensor. But it is patented afaik.
The question is by whom. Apple? The sensor manufacturer? Nokia 7650?
Some 3rd party?
See here: http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/n/2088.html
On the upper part of the
Am 04.07.2007 um 17:18 schrieb Raphaël Jacquot:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 04.07.2007 um 16:53 schrieb Frederic Kettelhoit:
the iPhone has a proximity sensor. But it is patented afaik.
The question is by whom. Apple? The sensor manufacturer? Nokia
7650? Some 3rd party?
See here
Ignore what you've
heard about its performance; later Newton models have reportedly
the best
handwriting recognition available.
Does this mean we could get this part (handwriting recognition) to
work on OpenMoko or even on something like an Ubuntu desktop ?
AFAIK: no.
Einstein is just (I
Am 10.07.2007 um 21:09 schrieb Jonas Meyer:
I think I submitted my order in the first 4 minutes that the site was
online. I was hoping that I would be able to get in on that first
1000
phones they had waiting to ship and that I wouldn't have to wait for
another run. However, my order
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller pisze:
I work for a company that want to purchase 3 handsets (including
2 adv boxes) but in the registration form there's no place for
our tax ID number. Does anybody know how can we receive an
invoice for these phones, so we can exclude costs from our tax?
I
Can we get some more detail on the shipping insurance please?
Maybe:
http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/shipping/time/service/value_added/
declared_value.html
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Am 21.07.2007 um 16:46 schrieb Valerio Bruno:
i'm tired to read discussion about forum is good or bad.
Me too - it is not important if it is good or bad or forum vs. list.
It is important that there are enough community members who want to
have it *in addition* to this list.
i think is
Am 22.07.2007 um 21:19 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz:
Dnia sobota, 21 lipca 2007, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napisał:
Well, I would suggest to use the existing Open Embedded forum
(previously this was the Zaurus User Group): www.oesf.org and ask to
create new subsections there
OESF forums
Dear OpenMoko Orders Team,
I originally did have Order #1883 and answered YES_I_DO for a black/
silver.
Then I decided to change the delivery address and got the information
that I should cancel the order and place a new one because your
systems can't handle that directly.
This gave me
Oops - wasn't thought to be a public response.
That is another reason why I would perfer a Web based forum because
you can delete or modify messages there.
Am 24.07.2007 um 12:00 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
Dear OpenMoko Orders Team,
I originally did have Order #1883 and answered
if they are connected, then there isn't anything to be decidet.
Well, there was already the hint that gmane or Google Groups can do
exactly that *or even do it* (mirror the mailing list in a Web based
forum-like view). But apparently it did not find enough acceptance
(including myself).
i imagine this mail2forum provides some sort of [Subforum]-tag
before each e-mail. To answer to a thread, simply answer the last
mail of that thread. To start a new topic, just write [Subforum]
New Topic Name as Subject of the mail. At least i would implement
it this way. And if it isn't
Am 26.07.2007 um 08:06 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
...
So when an official forum is blessed by someone, please make sure
it is
a forum that has a *bidirectional* email gateway. Anything else is
simply sub-standard for my usage patterns.
...
-- Rod Whitby
-- MokoMakefile author
Mail2Forum
Am 25.07.2007 um 21:14 schrieb Giles Jones:
Hi,
I was thinking, there's a few people who are spending time hacking
away at HTC devices to get Linux running on them. While it is
commendable they would be better to help us with OpenMoko.
Maybe we could appeal to them if we're not already
Am 26.07.2007 um 17:53 schrieb Harald Welte:
Hi!
Since we're now working on the phase 2 neo, i.e. what is now known
officially as Neo1973 GTA02, I'd like to address one issue:
For many information in the public wiki, it is not clear whether it is
1) general information about the openmoko
OpenMoko-0.5 or whatever scheme is already in place.
-2007 and -2008 so far. We might have 200x.y at some point.
Hm. I think using year-names is not a good choice for software
versions (mainly talking about stable releases).
It psychologically forces you to do one major release every year.
Harald wrote:
So you probably wouldn't save more than USD 50 (maximum) that way.
And
for that, you have all the risk of some assembly problem?
So, 450 - 50 USD = 400 USD for a kit...
Am 29.07.2007 um 21:07 schrieb Kyle Bassett:
I am curious, what do you estimate the cost (as a percentage
I know there are some MacOS users here. Let's get together and write
down some notes on using Neo1973 with your Macs. I started
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X where you can already find some
interesting information and references to other sites.
I know that Linux guys (geeks ;) very often
um 16:35 schrieb Giles Jones:
On 31 Jul 2007, at 20:35, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
I know there are some MacOS users here. Let's get together and write
down some notes on using Neo1973 with your Macs. I started
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X where you can already find
some
Am 03.08.2007 um 08:20 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Actually, speaking as someone who imports electronic components and
peripherals for prototype systems from the US all the time, I do
know what to expect when I import.
Importation of computer devices and peripherals to the EU is indeed
Am 07.08.2007 um 13:50 schrieb Simon Moore:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
One more question - how did you manage that dfu-util is not
blocked by the AppleUSBCDC driver which also tries to bind to the
same USB interface?
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Am 08.08.2007 um 13:01 schrieb Igor Foox:
Hi,
I've successfully used Nikolaus Schaller's AJZaurusUSB and
OpenMoko Flasher applications to flash a new rootfs onto my new
Neo. But I can't flash a new kernel into it. When I try flashing a
kernel with OpenMoko Flasher it tries to write it
$ ssh -l root 192.168.0.202 true ; echo $?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
255
MacBook-hns:~ hns$ ssh -l root 192.168.0.202 true ; echo $?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
255
MacBook-hns:~ hns$
Am 11.08.2007 um 09:05 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
Does anybody have the same experience?
The symptom
Hi all,
is anybody out there who could share a working kernel binary for the
GTA01b4 with hardfloat compiled in?
Many thanks,
Nikolaus Schaller
Am 15.08.2007 um 17:22 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
Am 14.08.2007 um 19:43 schrieb Brian Brunswick:
On 14/08/07, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
There is a new version of OpenMoko Flasher: http://wiki.openmoko.org/
wiki/MacOS_X#Flashing_to_your_device
New features:
* supports multiple parallel downloads
* added progress bar(s)
* shows console output of dfu-util directly in a Text View
* separately remembers which package has been
After unsuccessfully flashing different root-filesystems, I finally
found this note:
If you upload rootfs image that is smaller that previous one it
won't work - you need to attach to bootloader, erase NAND and then
upload your rootfs first:
cu -l /dev/ttyACM0
GTA01Bv3 # nand erase rootfs
Hm,
in other words: everybody should subscribe (listen) to all other
lists to post questions in the correct sublist...
This is IMHO a very strong argument for a Forum system where you have
to register only once, but can change between topics easily - even if
new ones come up.
Just my 2
Am 21.08.2007 um 12:46 schrieb Harald Welte:
On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 11:19:57AM +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
wrote:
Harald,
please calm down. I know from your blog how upset you are from
setting
up the new office location, networks and servers during Taifun time.
in fact
Am 21.08.2007 um 10:39 schrieb Harald Welte:
Please don't bring up the forum debate again.
We have heared all the arguments.
We will not have a forum as long as I have any role in this project.
All FOSS projects that I've ever been involved in 10+ years FOSS
development use mailinglists,
Am 21.08.2007 um 17:13 schrieb andy selby:
If you upload rootfs image that is smaller that previous one it
won't work - you need to attach to bootloader, erase NAND and then
upload your rootfs first:
cu -l /dev/ttyACM0
GTA01Bv3 # nand erase rootfs
This *should* help but I am trying to
Am 21.08.2007 um 19:23 schrieb John Seghers:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
After unsuccessfully flashing different root-filesystems, I finally
found this note:
If you upload rootfs image that is smaller that previous one it
won't work - you need to attach to bootloader, erase NAND
OpenMoko Flasher 1.3 (for MacOS X) is now available: http://
www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=OpenMoko%20Flasher
Am 21.08.2007 um 09:35 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
Ah, I see.
I will add a feature that one can change the list of repositories
in the Preferences...
In the meantime, you can
I am quite sure that there will be others who are longer in the business
(like http://www.handheld-linux.com to name one I know very well) to
resell
the GTA02 from within Europe.
But we must be aware that reselling needs some more margin for
handling all these
duties, tax, repacking,
As a Mac user/developer this might attract your interest:
http://www.quantum-step.com/wiki.php?page=OpenMoko-Edition
http://www.quantum-step.com/wiki.php?page=Presentations
Am 05.09.2007 um 07:47 schrieb Christ van Willegen:
On 9/4/07, Jimmy McMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you think you
Well,
if you have a touchscreen, why restrict to 9 buttons?
Basically, you end up in a handwriting recognition like xstroke:
http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix03/tech/freenix03/full_papers/
worth/worth_html/xstroke.html
which also uses 9 fields. Maybe this article helps to improve your
Am 09.09.2007 um 20:28 schrieb Dylan McCall:
The Neo is indeed behind the iPhone in almost every tech spec
except one: Openness.
And:
- replaceable standard battery - even compatible with Nokia batteries
- integrated GPS (well, does not yet work)
- much higher screen resolution (pixels per
Dear all Mac users with a Neo,
I have now found time to add a GPL license and make a source package.
You can find it at http://www.dsitri.de/wiki.php?page=OpenMoko%20Flasher
I would be happy if you could submit patches so that OpenMoko Flasher
can be improved further.
Happy OpenMoko
Am 22.09.2007 um 19:11 schrieb Joshua Layne:
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
Dear Community,
...
Preferable this webshop should not be written in PHP. Either Perl,
Python or Ruby would be fine by us.
Hi Sean,
This may be a stupid comment (and feel free to ignore it if it is),
but why build
Am 23.09.2007 um 10:21 schrieb Krzysztof Kajkowski:
2007/9/23, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The standard Open Source Web Shop is OSCommerce (http://
www.oscommerce.com/).
The only requirements it does not solve are
* it is witten in PHP
* it has its own database model
Hi
If you make use of a PHP framework then it is perfectly possible to
use a clear MVC concept.
Yes, it *is* possible, but that is not the point here to discuss
possibilities. The topic is about which Webshop technology sould be
used by OpenMoko.
It appears that oscommerce doesn't use MVC
2007/9/23, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The standard Open Source Web Shop is OSCommerce (http://
www.oscommerce.com/).
in fact we had developed a web shop even before the gta01 sales
started
and in the end put it into a deep, black hole.
yes it was based on oscommerce
Just for the record, those are tablets, that weight more (i.e: they
have more battery life thus power) that can take such overhead. N800
Why do you assume that X is overhead that needs more weight and
battery capacity?
X11 is also using the same framebuffer as others are using. It is
just a
Am 25.09.2007 um 17:20 schrieb Dani Anon:
But hey I like how you conveniently left unanswered my comment about
how the FBUI and DirectFB projects exist solely to remove the X server
overhead. Can you explain to me and them why they are wrong and how
they have wasted all those months of
I think there is a place for both Openmoko and Qtopia. Useful
features and possibly even entire applications can be cloned/ported
back and forth between the platforms. Artwork, sounds, etc can
easily be shared.
There is even place for more options to discuss.
E.g. Objective-C + GNUstep +
Friend,
which type of drugs do you use to loose reality and fairness?
People have different views on the world (even without drugs). And
different goals for their life (e.g. Earn lots of $$$ vs. Freedom for
Everything). Therefore, their conclusions what is correct and the
right thing is
SIEMENS had shown such a display speaker at CeBIT 2002.
Here a German blog entry with some photos and descriptions:
http://www.usp-forum.de/prototypen-classics-limited-editions/15744-
display-speaker-phone.html
Am 02.10.2007 um 08:52 schrieb Sven Klomp:
I didn't thought about the subject.
Dear all Mac based developers and GTA01 owners,
after Apple has announced an SDK for native applications on the
iPhone (I assume it will allow to write .app bundles with Xcode), I
think I should mention (again?) that we are already working on a
Cocoa compatible Objective-C based SDK for
Hi Community
Hi, welcome!
When is the exact release date of GTA01Bv4? The new Neo phone
Do you mean the GTA02? There is no announcement yet.
And just for my curiosity: how do you define exact release date?
a) the first announcement that you can order
b) the first device did leave the
I must admit that I can't follow the patience idea.
Some facts:
* FIC is a commercial company and they want to sell devices to finaly
make money
* impatience generates market demand - patient people wait forever.
This is no good business model.
What happens if the impatient people buy an
Good idea.
Traditionally, many newsgroups and mailing lists have monthly
reminder/updates/FAQ postings automatically sent out to all
subscribers...
Am 26.10.2007 um 08:48 schrieb Evgeny Ginzburg:
Michael Shiloh wrote:
Jeff,
That's a great idea. I'll look into implementing this.
Thanks,
Am 29.10.2007 um 00:41 schrieb Doug Sutherland:
Open hardware means availability of schematics and gerbers,
Are they available for the Neo?
Really open hardware would be if you get all the files to produce
your own silicon :-)
not source code, and this is not open hardware. Driver code
is
Sorry,
I did copy the wrong link. Here is the correct one for the LCD-PDA
module.
http://www.compulab.co.il/x270em/download/
Am 29.10.2007 um 00:41 schrieb Doug Sutherland:
Open hardware means availability of schematics and gerbers,
Are they available for the Neo?
Really open hardware
Am 07.11.2007 um 19:08 schrieb Gabriel Ambuehl:
On Wednesday 07 November 2007 18:23:18 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Problem is I dont want to buy a lot of $750 US units if I could
just develop on e.g. gphone or iphone which will be way cheaper.
You need not buy many units yourself
Didnt know they had Angstrom for it. That sure helps. But how do
you get
Angstrom onto the board? Do you need JTAG for that? Or can it boot
from SD or
USB the way it's shipped?
According to
http://www.compulab.co.il/x270em/download/x270-em-linux-doc.zip
it appears tthat it can boot and
Am 07.11.2007 um 17:20 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Anyone has an idea of another phone-pda that can at least allow to
compile your own programs?
I need phones for customers as service modules so they need to be
able to run Linux and be open enough to accept compilers for
Console
That's a shame.
Have a look at the upcoming GSM-enabled h/w from Unicon Systems:
http://www.uniconsys.com/
Good pointer, and already available. But...
- 32 MB SDRAM
- 32 MB flash
- Screen:
- TFT LCD QVGA 3.5'' 16M color screen
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Am 07.11.2007 um 17:42 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Problem is I dont want to buy a lot of $750 US units if I could
just develop on e.g. gphone or iphone which will be way cheaper.
You need not buy many units yourself - there is an idea for a group
purchase. So if you can convince (many)
Am 05.12.2007 um 13:41 schrieb Gabriel Ambuehl:
On Wednesday 05 December 2007 13:07:11 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
handling cost, credit card processing cost, etc. And finally some
compensation for the time we spend doing this instead of other
things. The largest single cost component
Hi all,
we all love choice and openness.
Currently, there is only the GTA01 available for OpenMoko and the
GTA02 still needs some time. This has raised the search for
alternatives. Especially the Wireless PDA module EM-X270 from
Compulabs was discussed positively - except for its missing
Am 05.12.2007 um 22:36 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'm able to ping the phone and my laptop, too.
But I can't connect to the internet: when I use ipkg update or the
web browser, nothing...
Looks like your laptop has no appropriate entry in its routing table
to forward traffic from your
I did not know they charge you extra for SMS in the US, since SMS
is the data transfers that happens between pressing the 'call'
button and the connection to the other phone (actually SMS was a
hack found out by Nokia people back in the '90's)
It was part of the GSM standard right from the
dual-SIM slot in their products. And both SIMs are active at the same
time!
It requires two GSM modems inside Neo. That closes this issue.
Here is a description what dual SIM means and why: http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_SIM
-- hns
Am 16.12.2007 um 21:54 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz:
Dnia niedziela, 16 grudnia 2007, Ben napisał:
I can't hold out any longer.
I need a PDA that will work as reliably as possble, have a few
options
for easy automatic sync (with Mac or Linux) or at least automatic
backup. I will be using it
Am 16.12.2007 um 23:38 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz:
Dnia niedziela, 16 grudnia 2007, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller napisał:
Am 16.12.2007 um 21:54 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz:
Any recent Windows Mobile PDA then.
Fortunaltely, there is no need to do such a strange move for a
MacLinux addict
05.12.2007 um 13:07 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
Hi all,
we all love choice and openness.
Currently, there is only the GTA01 available for OpenMoko and the
GTA02 still needs some time. This has raised the search for
alternatives. Especially the Wireless PDA module EM-X270 from
Compulabs
Am 10.01.2008 um 21:29 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
Yeah, cool. Can you toss this up on the wiki in the appropriate
section?
If someone can help me to tell what the appropriate section is...
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Something interesting - could be good to see in GTA03:
http
Am 10.01.2008 um 22:20 schrieb Michael Shiloh:
We're still testing the hardware and gathering up little issues
before determining whether we need to create another version of the
board. We still expect to start shipping Neo FreeRunner sometime in
the next few months. As always, we can't be
Am 13.01.2008 um 07:03 schrieb Aaron Cordova:
Hello, I recently received my neo in the mail. I was attempting to
get OE installed but seems like some of the mirrors for mac ports
is down. I am using a Mac with OS 10.5. Once the mirrors come back
up getting the rest of the software
Am 22.01.2008 um 11:19 schrieb Gilles Casse:
So direct pre-orders to OpenMoko.com are unlikely but in fact, I guess
that some of us (in Europe for example) would prefer local resellers.
Btw, what is the status of local resellers for France?
Since we have the harmonized EU market, you can
Am 23.01.2008 um 14:37 schrieb Sébastien Lorquet:
I'm not sure a magnetic sensor is useful when you have a GPS,
because a GPS can give you a heading as soon as the measured
velocity is not zero!
It is exactly useful for this reason: if you are not travelling by
car but as a pedestrian,
Hi,
I recently looked into the change history of the dedicated MacOS X
page in the wiki and I have got the impression that I am the only one
still doing something and improving the interworking between the Mac
and OpenMoko:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=MacOS_Xaction=history
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