Re: *Not* moving to Google Groups?
I offer a third option, for those that prefer UseNet, news.gmane.org provides a UseNet to listserv gateway that works REALLY well. Usenet people can use it, web junkies the gmail web interface, and listserv fans can use email. We all win, and we're all on the same list. Why splinter the group if we don't have to? - Original Message - From: Anthony Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Compact Macs compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 17:19 Subject: *Not* moving to Google Groups? If anyone is interested in creating an alternative on Usenet to the new 680x0-Macs list on Google Groups, e-mail me off the list. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Moving to Google Groups
After reading discussion over the weekend, let me clarify a few things. Google Groups functions as an email group, so the format of posting and receiving messages can be exactly the same as you're used to. In addition, you can read, search, and reply to messages online, something you couldn't do with our old email system. Nobody is required to use Google/Gmail to join the list. You can use any email address. And better yet, you can now control your own subscription - single message mode, digest, even set it to no email when you go on vacation. Or you could just read online if you prefer. Some people are having problems posting via email, just as has been the case with Maclaunch. Your email address has to match the subscribed one - most list servers won't see [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] as the same thing. If you have trouble posting, check the headers to see how your From: and Reply-to: are configured. There have been some objections to Google based on their willingness to provide a restricted search engine in China (among other countries) and abide by national laws rather than opt out of the Chinese market. If you want to boycott Google, consider that Apple Computer, General Motors, and most international businesses also elect to work within the constraints of Chinese law so they can reach the Chinese market and/or use Chinese labor. Neither Google nor the Chinese government puts any restrictions on the political views of participants of our email lists. We chose Google Groups because the provide a much more flexible service with greater user control than any of the mail list software we've run across. Further, politics is explicity listed as an area not to be debated on our lists, along with religion and Windows advocacy. We are building helpful Mac communities, so we try to avoid divisive issues. -- Dan Knight, president /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign Cobweb Publishing, Inc.\ / No HTML/RTF in email http://cobwebpublishing.com X No Word docs in email http://lowendmac.com / \ Respect Open Standards http://reformed.net -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Moving to Google Groups
I subscribed to the new list in my second mail account by sending a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and go the exact same message instead of a subscription confirmation. But I just waited, and now I'm receiving messages. It looks just like an (anoying) bug in Google Groups. Greetings, Antonio Rodríguez (Grichan) ftp://grijan.cjb.net:21000/ Doug McNutt escribió: Thank you! That's what I thought I needed but: At 20:05 + 1/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], We recently received a request from you to subscribe to the group Vintage Macs. We know you are excited about this group, but it looks like you are already subscribed to it. If you have questions related to this or any other Google group, please visit the Help Center at http://groups.google.com/support. The Google Groups Team Now I truly am confused. Was I automatically subscribed during the change over? If so why the excitement about re-subscribing from Dan Knight? -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Moving to Google Groups
At 20:23 -0800 1/28/06, Matthew S. Carpenter wrote: You can subscribe your current e-mail address to the list without even going in a browser. Just send a blank e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you! That's what I thought I needed but: At 20:05 + 1/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello [EMAIL PROTECTED], We recently received a request from you to subscribe to the group Vintage Macs. We know you are excited about this group, but it looks like you are already subscribed to it. If you have questions related to this or any other Google group, please visit the Help Center at http://groups.google.com/support. The Google Groups Team Now I truly am confused. Was I automatically subscribed during the change over? If so why the excitement about re-subscribing from Dan Knight? At 19:40 + 1/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're writing to let you know that the group that you tried to contact (compact.macs) doesn't exist. At 20:05 + 1/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (compact-macs) doesn't exist. I just wait around a while unless someone has a proper spelling for compact?macs-subscribe. It appears that I have avoided reading and signing that long disclaimer in the tiny window from the Google site. Perhaps I can get away with communication - China. -- -- From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. -- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Moving to Google Groups
On 28 Jan 2006, at 00:06, Thomas wrote: If there is so little traffic, couldn't someone setup a 68k machine to handle this list? It'd be cool to have a mailing list handled by a 68k that would also handle the archive in 68k friendly HTML. Is this possible? It's no doubt possible, but keeping a 68K Mac up and running 24/7 is quite a responsibility! Stuart -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Moving to Google Groups
Do i have to use a google account to stay subscribed? It will not just let me sub my yahoo.com address. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Moving to Google Groups
On Saturday, January 28, 2006, at 04:34 PM, Mark wrote: Do i have to use a google account to stay subscribed? No. It will not just let me sub my yahoo.com address. Why not? It let me subscribe using this verizon.net address. Perhaps you aren't doing something correctly. *any* valid e-mail address should work. -Nat -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Moving to Google Groups
At 18:59 -0800 1/28/06, Nat Hall wrote: Perhaps you aren't doing something correctly. *any* valid e-mail address should work. It wants me to create a basic Google account with email, real name, and password. After that it might allow a different email address for the list. Is it possible to use email to a list manager address to get started? Is it browser sensitive? I'm using iCab on OS 9.1. Any one have detailed instructions ready to read? I'm not sure I want my coordinates on a Google account while I may still need a security clearance. -- -- Love your country. But don't trust its government. -- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Moving to Google Groups
Any one have detailed instructions ready to read? I'm not sure I want my coordinates on a Google account while I may still need a security clearance. What's the difference between a google account and all the other places you've registered, like this list? -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Moving to Google Groups
Hi, y'all! Quoting Dan Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fans of 680x0 Macs, we've successfully launched our first two email lists using Google Groups - one for Macintel models and one for the Mac mini. As of this afternoon, we've turned off our three Maclone lists, which have also transitioned to Google Groups. Advantages: You can browse messages online, where they are threaded. You can manage your subscription yourself. Lots more room for the archive. And Google Groups doesn't automatically include your email address in your postings. Today we begin moving Compact Macs, Vintage Macs, and Quadlist to Google Groups. Google Groups will not replace the current lists until early next week, but I wanted to give everyone a chance to subscribe. To join the list and set your mode (single messages, digest, etc.), point your browser to http://groups.google.com/group/vintage-macs Hey, Dan, the link above appears to be leftover from the message you sent to the vintage-macs list. Willi -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Moving to Google Groups
Out of curiosity, how much traffic do those other lists receive? I have been on this list for a while, but sometimes adding more traffic will chase away some of the more casual subscribers who just don't feel like sorting through the extra information. -Chris - Original Message - From: Stuart Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Compact Macs compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 5:39 PM Subject: Re: Moving to Google Groups On 27 Jan 2006, at 21:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Dan, the link above appears to be leftover from the message you sent to the vintage-macs list. Dan's idea is that there should be one unite list for 68xxx users Stuart -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Moving to Google Groups
On 27 Jan 2006, at 22:48, Chris Riedl wrote: Out of curiosity, how much traffic do those other lists receive? I have been on this list for a while, but sometimes adding more traffic will chase away some of the more casual subscribers who just don't feel like sorting through the extra information. Pass. Sorry. If we get too much, we could suggest re-division. But I suspect that traffic is a fraction of what it was a couple of years ago. Stuart -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Moving to Google Groups
On 27 Jan 2006, at 21:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Dan, the link above appears to be leftover from the message you sent to the vintage-macs list. Dan's idea is that there should be one unite list for 68xxx users Stuart -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Moving to Google Groups
If there is so little traffic, couldn't someone setup a 68k machine to handle this list? It'd be cool to have a mailing list handled by a 68k that would also handle the archive in 68k friendly HTML. Is this possible? -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
