Re: Really easy terminal emulator for a Compact?
On 25 Jan 2006, at 01:50, Shane O'Neill wrote: 4k? You were lucky. I had to fit an entire OS into 16 bytes, four of which were shared with the team next door. And I was only given fifteen ones. And two of them were bent. Very good! You forgot to mention that two of the ferrite cores in the memory had been installed upside down. Stuart -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Really easy terminal emulator for a Compact?
4k? You were lucky. I had to fit an entire OS into 16 bytes, four of which were shared with the team next door. And I was only given fifteen ones. And two of them were bent. Bah, I used a slide rule to develop our current product! No bits at all! [The funny thing is, this ain't a tall tale either] -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Really easy terminal emulator for a Compact?
On 24/01/06, Stuart Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hence, I'd be grateful for any recommendations for terminal emulators for Compacts, preferably one which doesn't require me to remember too much of the RS-232 jargon which I've forgotten in the last 20 years! I won't be using a modem, only a direct connection. I have the appropriate 25-pin D-type to DIN adapters. Hello Stuart. I believe the venerable Kermit application might fit the bill. I managed to find this link: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/mac.html but by digging around the columbia.edu site you might be able to find something that will work on much earlier versions of The System. I used Kermit a long time ago on SunOS and it fitted the bill, being fairly simple. I'm sure others on this list may recommend alternatives, but this is the one I'd use. Good luck, Paul -- Paul Voller Try http://www.vollerama.com/blog Smokey, this is not 'Nam this is bowling. There are rules. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Really easy terminal emulator for a Compact?
On Jan 24, 2006, at 1:50 AM, Stuart Bell wrote: I can assign any Compact Mac to this task, from 512Kb to SE/30 to Mystic (CC with 575) though colour would be largely wasted for this application! So, any system s/w requirements from around System 4 through to 7.5 or even 8.1 can be accommodated. I was using Finder 1.something when I was using my 128K Mac as a terminal, back in the early '90s. I'll look through my disks and see what terminal program I was using, I think it had a name like Red Rider or something unobvious like that. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Really easy terminal emulator for a Compact?
What about ZTerm? I used it to make a dumb terminal out of my SE/30. ClarisWorks 5 worked too, I think it has Kermit built into it. Daan. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Really easy terminal emulator for a Compact?
Stuart, zTerm is compact and doesn't seem to care much about the Mac hardware or OS. I used it for years at first with a Mac Plus and then an SE to communicate with the Unix network at hospital that I worked at. It was used under OS 6.0.4 through 8.1 (on a Quadra) equally well. You can select various emulation parameters and speeds and it's cheap. I still use it. There is always MacTerminal but my only copy was blown away years ago and I can't remember emulation details. al -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Really easy terminal emulator for a Compact?
Stuart, For a similar situation, I've used my Mac 512 with Red Ryder 9.4. It has VT-52 and VT-100 emulation, I believe. The nice thing is, it fits on a single 400K disk with System 3.2, Finder 5.3, the menu-bar clock, MockWrite, DiskInfo and File Tools! Amazing how much they could pack in so little space...! :-) Bob - Original Message - From: Stuart Bell Hi! I recently acquired a Sage IV - early 1980s multi-user computer system running the UCSD p-System. As was the norm then, such computers used 'dumb' terminals connected using serial (RS-232) connections. I would like to use one (or more) of my compact Macs as dumb terminals. Hence, I'd be grateful for any recommendations for terminal emulators for Compacts, preferably one which doesn't require me to remember too much of the RS-232 jargon which I've forgotten in the last 20 years! I won't be using a modem, only a direct connection. I have the appropriate 25-pin D-type to DIN adapters. I can assign any Compact Mac to this task, from 512Kb to SE/30 to Mystic (CC with 575) though colour would be largely wasted for this application! So, any system s/w requirements from around System 4 through to 7.5 or even 8.1 can be accommodated. Thanks, Stuart -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Really easy terminal emulator for a Compact?
For a similar situation, I've used my Mac 512 with Red Ryder 9.4. It has VT-52 and VT-100 emulation, I believe. The nice thing is, it fits on a single 400K disk with System 3.2, Finder 5.3, the menu-bar clock, MockWrite, DiskInfo and File Tools! Amazing how much they could pack in so little space...! :-) Sounds like exactly the same setup I used. Unfortunately, I can't find a copy of Red Ryder on the disks I have retained. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Really easy terminal emulator for a Compact?
Just incase someone else wants a link to Red Ryder 9.4 and lots of other shareware, here is a link that I found. It seems to have plenty of software from the old Boston Computer Society files for older Macs and I may download some of them fo my own 512k. http://www.simski.org/mac/bcs/ al -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Really easy terminal emulator for a Compact?
Versaterm and Versaterm_Link were what I used on a Mac+ when it was arpanet. Synergy Software, and that might be misspelled. I donno if they're still in business of if the software is now public but I probably still have it around here. -- -- From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. -- -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Really easy terminal emulator for a Compact?
On 24 Jan 2006, at 14:48, Bob C. wrote: Stuart, For a similar situation, I've used my Mac 512 with Red Ryder 9.4. It has VT-52 and VT-100 emulation, I believe. The nice thing is, it fits on a single 400K disk with System 3.2, Finder 5.3, the menu-bar clock, MockWrite, DiskInfo and File Tools! Amazing how much they could pack in so little space...! :-) Well, people at the time weren't too sure about that! I quote from the Macintosh Bible, first edition, 1987: . . . if program 'leanness' is important to you, Red Ryder – approaching 200K in size – will probably give you apoplexy. 200K - bloatware by 1987 standards. Stuart -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Really easy terminal emulator for a Compact?
Imagine! 200K = bloatware! Wow, how times have changed! :-) Bob - Original Message - From: Stuart Bell Well, people at the time weren't too sure about that! I quote from the Macintosh Bible, first edition, 1987: . . . if program 'leanness' is important to you, Red Ryder – approaching 200K in size – will probably give you apoplexy. 200K - bloatware by 1987 standards. Stuart -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Really easy terminal emulator for a Compact?
On Jan 24, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Bob C. wrote: Imagine! 200K = bloatware! Wow, how times have changed! :-) Hey, I had to fit a display editor into the 4k available for buffers in an oilfield control system. It had to fit in the buffer space because that was the biggest bit of actual RAM, instead of ROM, in the system... and I only got that much because I was only run while the control system was down for reconfiguration. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Really easy terminal emulator for a Compact?
On 1/24/06, Peter da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 24, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Bob C. wrote: Imagine! 200K = bloatware! Wow, how times have changed! :-) Hey, I had to fit a display editor into the 4k available for buffers in an oilfield control system. It had to fit in the buffer space because that was the biggest bit of actual RAM, instead of ROM, in the system... and I only got that much because I was only run while the control system was down for reconfiguration. 4k? You were lucky. I had to fit an entire OS into 16 bytes, four of which were shared with the team next door. And I was only given fifteen ones. And two of them were bent. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:compact.macs@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
