Re: SE/30 PowerPC Upgrade
At 09:12 -0600 on 15/01/03, Larson, Timothy E. wrote: Is this theoretical, pickle, or do you know someone that's actually done it? I know someone who had it working just as a proof of concept, but I can't remember who it was, and I'm reasonably sure he didn't put the case back on, which alleviated cooling problems for the short time he did it. that's a no. :) Would the Turbo 601 physically fit the case assuming you got all the adaptors and stuff you needed? Yeah - it's about the same size as the Turbo 040 but with a much bigger heatsink. -- the pickle - Pickle, can you remember anything else about it? The only issues I know about are: 1. Maybe a 32 bit clean ROM is needed. 2. Will the FPU on the SE/30 logic board conflict with the Turbo 601 FPU? 3. Fitting it all into the case. anything else? johnsn -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: SE/30 PowerPC Upgrade
At 08:39 -0800 on 16/01/03, Snook, John R wrote: 2. Will the FPU on the SE/30 logic board conflict with the Turbo 601 FPU? Somehow the Turbo 601 manages to work OK in a IIci, which also has an FPU, so unless there's something in the ROM of the SE/30 that prevents disabling of the onboard FPU - which I doubt because PowerCache upgrades can use an FPU just fine in an SE/30 - I rather doubt FPU conflicts are a problem. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
SE/30 PowerPC Upgrade
Hi, Is there a way to upgrade SE/30 to PPC? -- Alexei Prostov -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: SE/30 PowerPC Upgrade
On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, at 11:29 AM, Alexei Prostov wrote: Hi, Is there a way to upgrade SE/30 to PPC? There always _a_ way! 1. Poor Man's Grey Scale Project to make the monitor produce 640 x 480 see http://www.stuartbell.dsl.pipex.com/PowerCC/PMGSP/PMGSP.html 2. PCB and bits from a Cube should fit fine. 3. Connect video o/p from Cube to video i/p of PMGSP. 4. Wonder whether the cost was really worth it. Is there an _economic_ way? Good question! ;-) Stuart -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: SE/30 PowerPC Upgrade
At 12:02 + on 15/01/03, Stuart Bell wrote: Is there an _economic_ way? Good question! ;-) How about... Install IIsi adapter to use IIci cache cards. Install necessary pass-through/angle adapters to make IIci cache slot vertical. Install Turbo 601 in your new vertical IIci cache slot inside your SE/30. It should work, though I would imagine power and heat considerations might necessitate a bit of extra cooling and possibly a PSU upgrade. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: SE/30 PowerPC Upgrade
Is there an _economic_ way? Good question! ;-) How about... Install IIsi adapter to use IIci cache cards. Install necessary pass-through/angle adapters to make IIci cache slot vertical. Install Turbo 601 in your new vertical IIci cache slot inside your SE/30. It should work, though I would imagine power and heat considerations might necessitate a bit of extra cooling and possibly a PSU upgrade. Is this theoretical, pickle, or do you know someone that's actually done it? (Stuart and gamba come to mind, but as Stuart is the one asking I'm guessing that's a no. :) Would the Turbo 601 physically fit the case assuming you got all the adaptors and stuff you needed? I have recently been thinking it odd that there is a PPC upgrade for the IIci but none for the most classic Mac form factor. (Been making me kind of grumpy.) Anybody have specs on how much juice the Turbo 601 is gonna draw, and what PSU might fill that need? Tim -- Tim Larson Info. Services - Internal Medicine Clinical Systems, Mayo Clinic, Rochester They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. I apologize for the irregular wrapping and quoting. I use MS Outlook. -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: SE/30 PowerPC Upgrade
I tried that. It didn't work. I don't know why. Any ideas? johnsn If you tried it with stock ROM simm then maybe it would work with a 32 bit clean a ROM simm. Gamba http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2 -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: SE/30 PowerPC Upgrade
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 08:18:16 -0500 From: the pickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:02 + on 15/01/03, Stuart Bell wrote: Is there an _economic_ way? Good question! ;-) How about... Install IIsi adapter to use IIci cache cards. Install necessary pass-through/angle adapters to make IIci cache slot vertical. Install Turbo 601 in your new vertical IIci cache slot inside your SE/30. It should work, though I would imagine power and heat considerations might necessitate a bit of extra cooling and possibly a PSU upgrade. Back when Daystar was still a going concern, they claimed that the Turbo601 wouldn't work in the SE/30 and that the IIsi adapter for the Turbo601 was different from the adapter for the Turbo040 and PowerCache030. Of course, as with most such pronouncements, that doesn't mean it won't work. But I wouldn't expect it to work without doubts. One might need a ROM upgrade in the SE/30, e.g., though it's hard to say. The Turbo601 apparently has a set of 6100 ROMs sitting on the board itself, so what's it going to do with the Mac II series ROMs anyway? Has anyone gotten a Turbo601 working in an SE/30? Jeff Walther -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: SE/30 PowerPC Upgrade
At 08:00 -0800 on 15/01/03, Gamba wrote: I tried that. It didn't work. I don't know why. Any ideas? johnsn If you tried it with stock ROM simm then maybe it would work with a 32 bit clean a ROM simm. The same setup has worked fine in a IIcx for people I know, and I could probably try this at some point (I have all the pieces but none of the time), so I sort of doubt clean ROMs have much to do with it. -- the pickle FAQ http://macfaq.org/index.shtml _ -- Compact Macs is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/. Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html Compact Macs list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/compact.shtml The FAQ:http://macfaq.org/ -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive:http://www.mail-archive.com/compact.macs%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
