Re: [computer-go] Intelligence

2007-07-23 Thread Brian Slesinsky
It seems like adaptation in the context of a game of Go just making the best response to the opponent's move, however unexpected. So, if there were such a thing as a perfect Go player, it would have no need to learn, but it would be perfectly adaptive, in this context. Of course, one could also

Re: [computer-go] Intelligence

2007-07-23 Thread Jacques Basaldúa
Hideki Kato wrote: Creativity here is, to generate a new method by combining methods the system already has, in order to solve a problem. That is creativity for the job of designing algorithms. Playing go, creativity is finding moves _that work_ that nobody would have thought of. I think

Re: [computer-go] Intelligence

2007-07-23 Thread Russ Williams
I was wondering how he knows it as well. Then I decided that an Oracle must have revealed it to him. On 7/23/07, Jim O'Flaherty, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you know this is incorrect? Are you claiming omniscience? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No. Erik is wrong even in theory. An

Re: [computer-go] Intelligence

2007-07-23 Thread Hideki Kato
I agree. Thank you for much better explanation than what I can do in English :-). (Imagine creativity like a thermal energy in simulated Annealing.) I prefer, however, non-linear dynamics in massive neural networks with feedback than SA because it's my home of research. Hideki. Jacques

Re: [computer-go] Intelligence

2007-07-23 Thread Weimin Xiao
Thanks. Like the discussion. Sometimes, learning and creation from machine intelligence point of view is not much difference. For example, when a computer is building a mathematical model from data set, it would need to construct a proper formula (creation), and at the same time, adjust

[computer-go] Hint for good Bayes book wanted

2007-07-23 Thread chrilly
I have a Phd in statistics. But Bayesian methods were at that time a non-topic. I know the general principles, but I want to learn a little bit more about the latest developments in the field. Bayes is now chic, there are many books about it. I assume also a lot of bad ones. Can anyone

Re: [computer-go] Hint for good Bayes book wanted

2007-07-23 Thread Erik van der Werf
On 7/23/07, chrilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Phd in statistics. But Bayesian methods were at that time a non-topic. I know the general principles, but I want to learn a little bit more about the latest developments in the field. Bayes is now chic, there are many books about it. I assume

Re: [computer-go] Hint for good Bayes book wanted

2007-07-23 Thread Rémi Coulom
chrilly wrote: I have a Phd in statistics. But Bayesian methods were at that time a non-topic. I know the general principles, but I want to learn a little bit more about the latest developments in the field. Bayes is now chic, there are many books about it. I assume also a lot of bad ones. Can

Re: [computer-go] Hint for good Bayes book wanted

2007-07-23 Thread chrilly
Thanks, I did also a search on Amazon and these two looked the most interesting ones. I can order now with greater confidence. Chrilly You could try something like: Information Theory, Inference Learning Algorithms by David MacKay or maybe Data Analysis: A Bayesian Tutorial by Devinderjit

Re: [computer-go] Hint for good Bayes book wanted

2007-07-23 Thread George Dahl
Don't forget that David MacKay's book can be downloaded free from his site so you can see exactly what you are getting before you buy it. http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/itila/book.html - George On 7/23/07, chrilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, I did also a search on Amazon and

Re: [computer-go] Hint for good Bayes book wanted

2007-07-23 Thread Łukasz Lew
Absolutely the best book I've seen is: Christopher M. Bishop Pattern Recognition and Machine Learning It's totally awesome! Strong points: - It have both Bayesian and non Bayesian ways explained - the explanation is clear - figures are so helpful (and aesthetic) - it concentrates on prediction

Re: [computer-go] Hint for good Bayes book wanted

2007-07-23 Thread George Dahl
I own that book and can also recommend it. - George On 7/23/07, Łukasz Lew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely the best book I've seen is: Christopher M. Bishop Pattern Recognition and Machine Learning It's totally awesome! Strong points: - It have both Bayesian and non Bayesian ways

Re: [computer-go] Hint for good Bayes book wanted

2007-07-23 Thread chrilly
I have the Neural Network Book from Bishop. It is also a good book. It puts Neural Nets into the proper statistical framework. Chrilly - Original Message - From: George Dahl To: computer-go Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [computer-go] Hint for good Bayes

[computer-go] [Fwd: Re: Casual attendance of the US Go Congress]

2007-07-23 Thread Jason House
Here is an old e-mail I've found about the pricing of the computer go congress. I assume it's still correct. Original Message Subject:Re: Casual attendance of the US Go Congress Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:21:18 -0400 From: Peter N. Nassar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: