Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 71, Issue 22

2015-12-29 Thread Michael Alford
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Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 71, Issue 22

2015-12-29 Thread Petr Baudis
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 08:59:52AM -0800, Michael Alford wrote: > On 12/29/15 4:10 AM, amanda oregon wrote: > > > > >You can reach the person managing the list at > >computer-go-ow...@computer-go.org > > > > Is veg no longer the manager? He's the list owner and pays the bills for

Re: [Computer-go] CNN with 54% prediction on KGS 6d+ data

2015-12-29 Thread Detlef Schmicker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I am fighting with the problem most seem to have with the strong move predictions at the moment, MCTS is not increasing the players a lot :) I wonder, if somebody measured the performance of the pure CNN54 against pachi 10k (or 100k), to get a

Re: [Computer-go] Computer-go Digest, Vol 71, Issue 22

2015-12-29 Thread amanda oregon
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Re: [Computer-go] Those were the days ...

2015-12-29 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Hi Detlef, >I gave pure DCNN 54% a try against the 15 kyu version:) did I get it right, that these 54 % were from normal 6-dan games ("normal" meaning small or no handicap)? I think you need "Mueller High Handicap games" for feeding the CNN. Cheers, Ingo.

Re: [Computer-go] Those were the days ...

2015-12-29 Thread Detlef Schmicker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yes, the published http://computer-go.org/pipermail/computer-go/2015-December/008324.html I think, you can not win this with "normal" good moves :) You have to exploit mfgo Detlef Am 29.12.2015 um 15:18 schrieb "Ingo Althöfer": > Hi Detlef, > >>

Re: [Computer-go] Those were the days ...

2015-12-29 Thread Detlef Schmicker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I gave pure DCNN 54% a try against the 15 kyu version:) http://files.gokgs.com/games/2015/12/29/mfgo15kyu0-NiceGo19N.sgf There was no pass handling, therefore filled an eye, without would have been 133.5 loss or so :) Detlef Am 29.12.2015 um 11:20

Re: [Computer-go] Those were the days ...

2015-12-29 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Hello all, > Martin understood computer go weaknesses, so he played to exploit them. A > modern program > not specifically tuned for those weaknesses would have a much more difficult > time. Agreed. Concerning CNN bots (like darkfores3), a natural way would be to find some players of