Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

2016-03-19 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
Zen won against CrazyStone. darkforest won against Aya. Final is Zen - darkforest Hiroshi Yamashita - Original Message - From: "Hiroshi Yamashita" To: Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 12:34 PM Subject: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

[Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

2016-03-19 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
darkforest won against CGI. CrazyStone won against DolBalam. Zen won against Ray. Aya won against MFG. Semi final is CrazyStone vs Zen darkforest vs Aya Thanks, Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org

Re: [Computer-go] March KGS bot tournament - slow

2016-03-19 Thread Lukas van de Wiel
Aja Huang is on the mailing list, and he is also on the compyer-go mailing list. So the AlphaGo is aware. :-) On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:29 AM, uurtamo . wrote: > David, > > It'd be cool if they were willing to spend a few $K to participate (Just a > guess about what the CPU

Re: [Computer-go] computergo.org

2016-03-19 Thread Joshua Shriver
I run a couple webservers, so I don't even mind hosting a site. I just don't have the time to invest in maintaining it, updating, etc. Love the suggestions though. -Josh On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Jim O'Flaherty wrote: > So I hear you volunteering to create

Re: [Computer-go] computergo.org

2016-03-19 Thread Sebastian Scheib
I can use some time to do updates if you send articles and links. (I am not a good web designer...) 2016-03-19 21:22 GMT-03:00 Joshua Shriver : > I run a couple webservers, so I don't even mind hosting a site. I > just don't have the time to invest in maintaining it,

Re: [Computer-go] Go Bot for the Browser?

2016-03-19 Thread Josef Moudrik
If I remember correctly, it is not browser implementation, but rather a frontend. The actual computation runs on server, browser only communicates the moves and shows the results. Josef Dne čt 17. 3. 2016 23:32 uživatel Jim O'Flaherty napsal: > This is wonderful!

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

2016-03-19 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
Today's tournament table is https://twitter.com/math26/status/711190391098187776 (Thanks Shinoda-san). Holmes got Originality award. Holmes does both Policy Network and playout on 8 GPUs. Playouts are done by 256 mini-batches. 256 playouts are executed simultaneously. Thanks, Hiroshi Yamashita

Re: [Computer-go] Go Bot for the Browser?

2016-03-19 Thread Clark B. Wierda
There are a couple other ways to do this. GnuGo is fairly light on the CPU load and plays fairly quickly. It also understands GTP. You could create a front end that will present a board and accept moves from the user, then send these to GnuGo over GTP. This would have the advantage that any

Re: [Computer-go] Michi port

2016-03-19 Thread Andreas Persson
Thanks! Yes knew about the the C, Rust and Go but missed the C# port. 19 mars 2016 21:08:41 +01:00, skrev Gonçalo Mendes Ferreira : > A look at GitHub tells me it has been ported to C, Rust and Go. > > To C# it appears to have been started here: >

Re: [Computer-go] Michi port

2016-03-19 Thread Gonçalo Mendes Ferreira
A look at GitHub tells me it has been ported to C, Rust and Go. To C# it appears to have been started here: https://github.com/radiatoryang/michi-csharp - Gonçalo On 19/03/2016 19:19, Andreas Persson wrote: > Hi all, thought I would give Go AI another shot after seeing the great > AlphaGo >

[Computer-go] computergo.org

2016-03-19 Thread Joshua Shriver
Does anyone have interest in that domain name? I'd be willing to transfer it to a new owner for free. It came up a year or so back and I grabbed it just in case but never used it. Rather see it go to someone who can use it rather than squat. It's already for another year. -Josh

[Computer-go] Michi port

2016-03-19 Thread Andreas Persson
Hi all, thought I would give Go AI another shot after seeing the great AlphaGo games :) Has anyone done a port of Michi for C# or Java? Would love to get a hold of it if so, otherwise I will probably do a C# port myself. Cheers, Andreas ___

Re: [Computer-go] Value Network

2016-03-19 Thread Detlef Schmicker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Aja, please try to answer the discrepancies between you loss values in text and figures, Detlef Am 19.03.2016 um 14:25 schrieb Aja Huang: > Good stuff, Hiroshi. Looks like I don't need to answer the > questions regarding value network. :) > > Aja >

Re: [Computer-go] Go Bot for the Browser?

2016-03-19 Thread Jim O'Flaherty
This is wonderful! Tysvm for reposting! On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Álvaro Begué wrote: > A while back somebody posted a link to a browser implementation of a DCNN: > https://chrisc36.github.io/deep-go/ > > Would something like that do? > > Álvaro. > > > > On Wed,

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

2016-03-19 Thread Wu Ti-Rong
We are updating our page: http://aigames.nctu.edu.tw/~icwu/CGI.html. The current version in UEC is CGI 2.0 (or DeepCGI) as described in this page (also including the contributors). The main contribution for Amigo (nothing to do with nicego) is to design a general MCTS framework that many game

Re: [Computer-go] computergo.org

2016-03-19 Thread Jim O'Flaherty
So I hear you volunteering to create and maintain that site/page? {smirk} On Mar 19, 2016 6:40 AM, "Gonçalo Mendes Ferreira" wrote: > Instead of just redirecting, it could be a directory page for: > - various Nick Wedd pages > - CGOS > - mailing lists > - the game AI forum > -

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

2016-03-19 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
Hello Ingo, As far as I know, CrazyStone used a machine 24 cores, no GPUs. Aya used a Amazon EC2 g2.8xlarge 16 cores, 4 GPUS. Gonanza used a mahicne 16 cores with a GTX 980 ti. Ray used a mahicne with a GPU. Zen and CrazyStone uses DCNN without GPU. I'll use 4 g2.8xlarge by root

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

2016-03-19 Thread Nick Wedd
On 19 March 2016 at 14:40, "Ingo Althöfer" <3-hirn-ver...@gmx.de> wrote: > Hello Hiroshi, > > thanks for the information. > > WHo are the peolbe behind CGI Go? > > According to http://computer-go.info/db/oprog.php?a=CGI : Written by: Wu, I-Chen & Wu, Ti-Rong & Chen, Guan-Wen & Shih, Chung-Chin &

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

2016-03-19 Thread Petr Baudis
I think they are https://github.com/CGI-LAB http://www.aigames.nctu.edu.tw/ e.g. NiceGo, Amigo programs in the past. I'm curious if they are mainly reimplementing the AlphaGo paper or doing something else. On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 03:40:06PM +0100, "Ingo Althöfer" wrote: > Hello

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

2016-03-19 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Hello Hiroshi, thanks for the information. WHo are the peolbe behind CGI Go? Which hardware is used by the top participants in UEC cup? Ingo. > Gesendet: Samstag, 19. März 2016 um 14:32 Uhr > Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita" > An: computer-go@computer-go.org > Betreff:

[Computer-go] Go Bot for the Browser?

2016-03-19 Thread Benjamin Teuber
Hi everyone, for a Go beginner website I would like to have a bot that runs in client-side javascript, it doesn't have to be that strong. An option might be transpiling gnugo with emscripten, but I'm not very familiar with that technology and the first google entry (

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

2016-03-19 Thread Rémi Coulom
http://jsb.cs.uec.ac.jp/~igo/eng/result1.html On 19 mars 2016, at 23:10, James Guo wrote: > Show the official web site link? > From: Hiroshi Yamashita > To: computer-go@computer-go.org > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 9:32 PM > Subject: [Computer-go] UEC

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

2016-03-19 Thread James Guo
Show the official web site link? From: Hiroshi Yamashita To: computer-go@computer-go.org Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 9:32 PM Subject: [Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result There are 32 participants, include one guest GNU GO. After 7 swiss round, 1st CGI       

Re: [Computer-go] Value Network

2016-03-19 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
Thanks Aja, Maybe you read already, but I found Lee Sedol's comment about you. - Playing with Go AI, "I'm proud", Lee 9dan mother said http://japanese.yonhapnews.co.kr/society/2016/03/16/08AJP20160316004200882.HTML Lee 9dan commented

[Computer-go] UEC cup 1st day result

2016-03-19 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
There are 32 participants, include one guest GNU GO. After 7 swiss round, 1st CGI7-0 2nd CrazyStone 6-1 3rd Zen6-1 4th Aya6-1 5th Gonanza5-2 6th Ray5-2 7th DolBaram 5-2 8th darkforest 5-2 CrazyStone lost against Zen. Zen lost against CGI. DolBaram lost

Re: [Computer-go] Value Network

2016-03-19 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
What are you using for loss? I use this, layers { name: "loss" type: EUCLIDEAN_LOSS bottom: "fc14" bottom: "label" top: "loss" } name: "AyaNet" layers { name: "mnist" type: DATA top: "data" data_param { source:

Re: [Computer-go] Value Network

2016-03-19 Thread Aja Huang
Good stuff, Hiroshi. Looks like I don't need to answer the questions regarding value network. :) Aja On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: > What are you using for loss? >> > > I use this, > > layers { > name: "loss" > type: EUCLIDEAN_LOSS > bottom:

Re: [Computer-go] computergo.org

2016-03-19 Thread Gonçalo Mendes Ferreira
I don't know how up-to-date computer-go.info is, but it appears a better target for redirecting. - Gonçalo On 18/03/2016 19:46, Xavier Combelle wrote: > 2016-03-17 16:16 GMT+01:00 Joshua Shriver : > >> Does anyone have interest in that domain name? I'd be willing to >>

Re: [Computer-go] Go Bot for the Browser?

2016-03-19 Thread Josef Moudrik
Aha! Thanks for the clarification. Josef Dne pá 18. 3. 2016 9:59 uživatel Darren Cook napsal: > > If I remember correctly, it is not browser implementation, but rather a > > frontend. The actual computation runs on server, browser only > communicates the > > moves and shows

Re: [Computer-go] computergo.org

2016-03-19 Thread David Doshay
sorry about that auto-correct ‘typo. The first one is supposed to be computergo.org, but that should be clear anyway ... Cheers, David G Doshay ddos...@mac.com > On 18, Mar 2016, at 1:56 PM, David Doshay wrote: > > From my perspective, having both a computer.org and a

Re: [Computer-go] computergo.org

2016-03-19 Thread Xavier Combelle
2016-03-17 16:16 GMT+01:00 Joshua Shriver : > Does anyone have interest in that domain name? I'd be willing to > transfer it to a new owner for free. It came up a year or so back and > I grabbed it just in case but never used it. > > Rather see it go to someone who can use it

Re: [Computer-go] Go Bot for the Browser?

2016-03-19 Thread Darren Cook
BTW, if anyone is pursuing this further, JavaScript supports binary arrays (I've used them in some WebGL work I've been doing), and browser coverage is rather good: http://caniuse.com/#feat=typedarrays What that means (in rough order of usefulness): 1. It loads into memory directly - the

[Computer-go] AlphaGo - Lee Sedol Game 5,Move 68

2016-03-19 Thread Robert Jasiek
For those of you not reading forums but interested in a positional judgement after the tower squeeze sacrifice in game 5, an SGF is attached inline. Conclusion: afterwards White has at least a small lead, so AlphaGo's strategy was superb. -- robert jasiek

Re: [Computer-go] computergo.org

2016-03-19 Thread Gonçalo Mendes Ferreira
Instead of just redirecting, it could be a directory page for: - various Nick Wedd pages - CGOS - mailing lists - the game AI forum - news sites - aggregators of tournament information, ICGA - aggregator or list of upcoming conferences - links to software and tools - lists of publications, Martin

[Computer-go] March KGS bot tournament - slow

2016-03-19 Thread Nick Wedd
The March KGS slow bot tournament will start on Sunday, March 27th, at 22:00 UTC and end by 14:00 UTC on Wednesday 30th. It will use 19x19 boards, with time limits of 235 minutes (almost four hours) each plus fast Canadian overtime, and komi of 7.5. See http://www.gokgs.com/tournInfo.jsp?id=1020

Re: [Computer-go] Go Bot for the Browser?

2016-03-19 Thread Gian-Carlo Pascutto
On 16-03-16 22:17, Clark B. Wierda wrote: > I'm not familiar with emscripten, but there is a process that will > produce Javascript from Golang code that seems to be pretty robust. emscripten is extremely robust and will produce much faster (and hence stronger) results than a golang->JS

Re: [Computer-go] computergo.org

2016-03-19 Thread Michael Markefka
Not a definite solution yet, but more of a call to action here: Would anyone be interested contributing to a well-maintained computer go news site? I would consider that a useful service that is currently lacking. I'd be happy to contribute news articles and links. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 4:16

Re: [Computer-go] Value Network

2016-03-19 Thread Detlef Schmicker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What are you using for loss? this: layers { name: "loss4" type: EUCLIDEAN_LOSS loss_weight: 2.0 bottom: "vvv" bottom: "pool2" top: "accloss4" } ? Am 04.03.2016 um 16:23 schrieb Hiroshi Yamashita: > Hi, > > I tried to make Value

Re: [Computer-go] Go Bot for the Browser?

2016-03-19 Thread Oliver Lewis
Alternatively, there's a minimalist Python MCTS engine ( https://github.com/pasky/michi) that might be easier to translate. It has no UI though, so that would need to be added. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:47 AM, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: > On 16-03-16 22:17, Clark B. Wierda

Re: [Computer-go] Go Bot for the Browser?

2016-03-19 Thread Álvaro Begué
Actually the DCNN plays on 9x9 acceptably well (somewhere in the single-digit kyus). On Friday, March 18, 2016, Benjamin Teuber wrote: > This is really cool. Now it just needs to learn 9x9 via reinforcement > learning ;-) > > Josef Moudrik

Re: [Computer-go] Go Bot for the Browser?

2016-03-19 Thread Clark B. Wierda
And there are C and Go translations of michi, also on github. Both are linked from the Python README. Clark B. Wierda I wrote the Go version. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Oliver Lewis wrote: > Alternatively, there's a minimalist Python MCTS engine ( >

Re: [Computer-go] Go Bot for the Browser?

2016-03-19 Thread Oliver Lewis
If you look back through the archive on this list, you'll also see there was an initial attempt, described here: http://computer-go.org/pipermail/computer-go/2015-October/008067.html code is here: https://github.com/PragTob/web-go On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Oliver Lewis

Re: [Computer-go] Go Bot for the Browser?

2016-03-19 Thread Álvaro Begué
A while back somebody posted a link to a browser implementation of a DCNN: https://chrisc36.github.io/deep-go/ Would something like that do? Álvaro. On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Benjamin Teuber wrote: > Hi everyone, > > for a Go beginner website I would like to have