Re: [Computer-go] Densei-sen

2016-03-23 Thread Sorin Gherman
Why did darkforest resign? I think darkforest shoud be able to win by about 4 points if it keeps playing. On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 11:55 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: > Hi, > > darkforest lost against Koichi Kobayashi with 3 handicaps. > Next game, Zen vs Kobayashi will be

Re: [Computer-go] Would a larger board (25x25) dramatically reduce AlphaGos skill?

2016-03-23 Thread Sighris
See below: On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Lukas van de Wiel < lukas.drinkt.t...@gmail.com> wrote: > It would reduce Alphago, because there is less training material in the > form of high-dan-games, to train the policy network. > Maybe not a concern. There has been a suggestion that AlphaGo

Re: [Computer-go] Congratulations to AlphaGo (Statistical significance of results)

2016-03-23 Thread Nick Wedd
On 22 March 2016 at 21:43, Darren Cook wrote: < snip > > > C'mon DeepMind, put that same version on KGS, set to only play 9p > players, with the same time controls, and let's get 40 games to give it > a proper ranking. (If 5 games against Lee Sedol are useful, 40 games >

Re: [Computer-go] Congratulations to AlphaGo (Statistical significance of results)

2016-03-23 Thread Robert Jasiek
On 23.03.2016 15:32, Petr Baudis wrote: these are beautiful posts. https://massgoblog.wordpress.com/2016/03/11/lee-sedols-strategy-and-alphagos-weakness/ Before you become too excited, also read my comments on the commentary: http://www.lifein19x19.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=200539#p200539 --

Re: [Computer-go] Congratulations to AlphaGo (Statistical significance of results)

2016-03-23 Thread Petr Baudis
Thank you, these are beautiful posts. I enjoyed very much reading a writeup by Go professional who also took the effort to understand the principles behind MCTS programs as well as develop a basic intution of the gameplay artifacts, strengths and weaknesses of MCTS. It also nicely describes

Re: [Computer-go] UEC cup 2nd day

2016-03-23 Thread Darren Cook
David Fotland wrote: > There are 12 programs here that have deep neural nets. 2 were not > qualified for the second day, and six of them made the final 8. Many > Faces has very basic DNN support, but it’s turned off because it > isn’t making the program stronger yet. Only Dolburam and Many

Re: [Computer-go] Densei-sen

2016-03-23 Thread Igor Polyakov
Wow, Black still recovered after a joseki mistake. You'd expect joseki to come baked-in, but it didn't need them! I wonder what would happen in a two stone game. On 2016-03-23 1:42, Hiroshi Yamashita wrote: Zen won against KOBAYASHI with 3 handicaps. (;GM[1]SZ[19] PB[Zen] PW[KOBAYASHI

Re: [Computer-go] Densei-sen

2016-03-23 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
Zen won against KOBAYASHI with 3 handicaps. (;GM[1]SZ[19] PB[Zen] PW[KOBAYASHI Koichi] DT[2016-03-23] RE[B+4.5]HA[3]KM[0.5]TM[1800]RU[Japanese] AB[pd][dp][pp] ;W[de];B[dc];W[cc];B[cb];W[cd];B[gc];W[cn];B[fq];W[cj];B[pj] ;W[nc];B[lc];W[qc];B[qd];W[pc];B[od];W[nd];B[oc];W[ob];B[ne]

Re: [Computer-go] Densei-sen

2016-03-23 Thread Ingo Althöfer
Dear Hiroshi, many thanks for keeping us informed! Ingo. > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. März 2016 um 08:06 Uhr > Von: "Hiroshi Yamashita" > An: computer-go@computer-go.org > Betreff: Re: [Computer-go] Densei-sen > > SGF is here. > > (;GM[1]SZ[19] > PB[darkforest] > PW[KOBAYASHI

Re: [Computer-go] Densei-sen

2016-03-23 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
SGF is here. (;GM[1]SZ[19] PB[darkforest] PW[KOBAYASHI Koichi] DT[2016-03-23] RE[W+R]HA[3]KM[0.5]TM[1800]RU[Japanese] AB[pd][dp][pp] ;W[de];B[dc];W[cc];B[ci];W[db];B[ec];W[cd];B[ic];W[cn];B[cl] ;W[fq];B[dn];W[cq];B[dq];W[cp];B[co];W[bo];B[do];W[bn];B[cm]

[Computer-go] Densei-sen

2016-03-23 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
Hi, darkforest lost against Koichi Kobayashi with 3 handicaps. Next game, Zen vs Kobayashi will be played also with 3 handicaps. Hiroshi Yamashita ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org