Re: [Computer-go] Notes from the Asilomar Conference on Beneficial AI

2017-02-15 Thread Robert Jasiek
On 15.02.2017 09:42, adrian.b.rob...@gmail.com wrote: if humans tried to play that way (or that way at those times), it wouldn't turn out very well because working memory or other requirements to pull it off are just too high. My reply to this is the same as before. (Some humans can play like

Re: [Computer-go] Notes from the Asilomar Conference on Beneficial AI

2017-02-15 Thread Adrian . B . Robert
Robert Jasiek writes: > On 10.02.2017 12:56, adrian.b.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >>> AlphaGo is playing moves and >>> styles that all human masters had dismissed as stupid centuries ago." >> we may learn little more than what mathematicians >> learn when a computer-assisted proof

Re: [Computer-go] Notes from the Asilomar Conference on Beneficial AI

2017-02-10 Thread Richard Lorentz
Thank you for the suggestions. Both videos were good, but I especially liked the four specialties one, where he was discussing exactly the kind of thing I wanted to hear more about. Here is a professional that's clearly awed by AlphaGo's moves. This is all so very exciting! -Richard

Re: [Computer-go] Notes from the Asilomar Conference on Beneficial AI

2017-02-10 Thread Jim O'Flaherty
I like your perspective, Adrian. It is more inline with the fractal nature of knowledge itself. And the idea that computers might be able to computationally explore deeper iterations in the fractal space than are currently possible within human neural cognition is quite exciting. On Fri, Feb 10,

Re: [Computer-go] Notes from the Asilomar Conference on Beneficial AI

2017-02-10 Thread Lukas van de Wiel
and 3-3 invasions very early in the game. On 2/10/17, Robert Jasiek wrote: > On 10.02.2017 12:56, adrian.b.rob...@gmail.com wrote: >>> AlphaGo is playing moves and >>> styles that all human masters had dismissed as stupid centuries ago." >> we may learn little more than what

Re: [Computer-go] Notes from the Asilomar Conference on Beneficial AI

2017-02-10 Thread Robert Jasiek
On 10.02.2017 12:56, adrian.b.rob...@gmail.com wrote: AlphaGo is playing moves and styles that all human masters had dismissed as stupid centuries ago." we may learn little more than what mathematicians learn when a computer-assisted proof consisting of several hundred pages is generated for

Re: [Computer-go] Notes from the Asilomar Conference on Beneficial AI

2017-02-10 Thread Adrian . B . Robert
Richard J Lorentz writes: > Thanks for the interesting link. Indeed, some good reading there. > > One quote that I've seen various versions of a number of times now: " > More interesting for the rest of us, AlphaGo is playing moves and > styles that all human masters had

Re: [Computer-go] Notes from the Asilomar Conference on Beneficial AI

2017-02-09 Thread Álvaro Begué
If you like video commentary, Haylee has five game reviews, starting with this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_24iaUMRFs=1109s You may also enjoy this lecture (probably best for kyu players): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Eh41m7gVA (you may want to skip to around 9:00). Enjoy, Álvaro.

Re: [Computer-go] Notes from the Asilomar Conference on Beneficial AI

2017-02-09 Thread Richard J Lorentz
Thanks for the interesting link. Indeed, some good reading there. One quote that I've seen various versions of a number of times now: " More interesting for the rest of us, AlphaGo is playing moves and styles that all human masters had dismissed as stupid centuries ago." Can any one point me

[Computer-go] Notes from the Asilomar Conference on Beneficial AI

2017-02-09 Thread Freeman Ng
My favorite blogger's account of this conference that the Deep Mind team also participated in. http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/02/06/notes-from-the-asilomar-conference-on-beneficial-ai/ Note: he's neither a Go player nor a computer programmer, which limits his AlphaGo related reporting, but I