Re: [computer-go] Re: Drunken sailor on payday

2007-11-22 Thread steve uurtamo
one seemingly overlooked aspect of the whole speed vs. devel. time argument is that in order to actually *test* to see how strong your code is, you need to compete with it. once you do so, you will immediately see how cycles matter. i only know this because i've done some testing of various go

[computer-go] Re: Drunken sailor on payday

2007-11-21 Thread Dave Dyer
I think that's somewhat contrived as well. I don't have that good idea about all the populat computer go algorithsm, do you have example of reasonably performing algorithm with these properties? A standard alpha-beta driven search takes exponentially more time with search depth, so an

Re: [computer-go] Re: Drunken sailor on payday

2007-11-21 Thread Don Dailey
Dave Dyer wrote: I think that's somewhat contrived as well. I don't have that good idea about all the populat computer go algorithsm, do you have example of reasonably performing algorithm with these properties? A standard alpha-beta driven search takes exponentially more time with

[computer-go] Re: Drunken sailor on payday

2007-11-21 Thread Dave Dyer
A standard alpha-beta driven search takes exponentially more time with search depth, so an exponential increase in speed results in a very small incremental improvement in seeing'. Improvements in the quality of the evaluation at anything less than exponential cost more effective at

Re: [computer-go] Re: Drunken sailor on payday

2007-11-21 Thread Don Dailey
Dave Dyer wrote: A standard alpha-beta driven search takes exponentially more time with search depth, so an exponential increase in speed results in a very small incremental improvement in seeing'. Improvements in the quality of the evaluation at anything less than exponential cost more

Re: [computer-go] Re: Drunken sailor on payday

2007-11-21 Thread Don Dailey
Don Dailey wrote: Dave Dyer wrote: A standard alpha-beta driven search takes exponentially more time with search depth, so an exponential increase in speed results in a very small incremental improvement in seeing'. Improvements in the quality of the evaluation at anything less than