Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo & DCNN: Handling long-range dependency

2016-03-15 Thread Brian Sheppard
I remember another way to estimate peak capabilities. This one was used in the late 1970's by Ken Thompson / Belle, but maybe was invented earlier: play handicap matches at different time controls, and fit a quadratic curve to the data. If your program is strong enough, then additional

Re: [Computer-go] AlphaGo & DCNN: Handling long-range dependency

2016-03-15 Thread Brian Sheppard
>So a small error in the opening or middle game can literally be worth anything >by the time the game ends. These are my estimates: human pros >= 24 points lost, and >= 5 game-losing errors against other human pros. I relayed my experience of a comparable experiment with chess, and how those

Re: [Computer-go] Final score 4-1 - congratulations to AlphaGo team!

2016-03-15 Thread Freeman Ng
> > On 15.03.2016 13:10, Petr Baudis wrote: > >>AlphaGo has won the final game, tenaciously catching up after a tesuji >> mistake in the beginning >> > > No. Do not trust Redmond's positional judgement. IMO, after the initial > tesuji sequence, the position was balanced. (Kim said: White was a

Re: [Computer-go] Final score 4-1 - congratulations to AlphaGo team!

2016-03-15 Thread Robert Jasiek
Congratulations! On 15.03.2016 13:10, Petr Baudis wrote: AlphaGo has won the final game, tenaciously catching up after a tesuji mistake in the beginning No. Do not trust Redmond's positional judgement. IMO, after the initial tesuji sequence, the position was balanced. (Kim said: White was

Re: [Computer-go] Final score 4-1 - congratulations to AlphaGo team!

2016-03-15 Thread valkyria
I would also like to congratulate the Alpha-Go team for this fantastic result now when the dust have settled! I think after all games have been played me feeling is that Alpha-go is a little stronger then 9 Dan pro level, but of course still far away from perfect play. My suspicion of the

[Computer-go] Final score 4-1 - congratulations to AlphaGo team!

2016-03-15 Thread Petr Baudis
AlphaGo has won the final game, tenaciously catching up after a tesuji mistake in the beginning - a great data point that it can also deal with somewhat disadvantageous position well. It has received honorary 9p from the KBA. I can only quote David Silver: "Wow, what an amazing week this has