Re: [Computer-go] Significance of resignation in AGZ

2017-12-03 Thread Brian Sheppard via Computer-go
Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Significance of resignation in AGZ Hi Brian, Thanks for sharing your genuinely interesting result. One question though: why would you train on a non-"zero" program? Do you think your program as a result of your rules would perform better

Re: [Computer-go] Significance of resignation in AGZ

2017-12-03 Thread Chaz G.
t is not a “zero” program, so I don’t mind ad hoc rules like > this.) > > > > *From:* Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] *On > Behalf Of *Xavier Combelle > *Sent:* Saturday, December 2, 2017 12:36 PM > *To:* computer-go@computer-go.org > > *Subject

Re: [Computer-go] Significance of resignation in AGZ

2017-12-02 Thread Brian Sheppard via Computer-go
] On Behalf Of Xavier Combelle Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 12:36 PM To: computer-go@computer-go.org Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Significance of resignation in AGZ It might make sense to enable resignation threshold even on stupid level. As such the first thing the network should learn would

Re: [Computer-go] Significance of resignation in AGZ

2017-12-02 Thread Xavier Combelle
etc. > >   > > *From:*Brian Sheppard [mailto:sheppar...@aol.com] > *Sent:* Friday, December 1, 2017 5:39 PM > *To:* 'computer-go' <computer-go@computer-go.org> > *Subject:* RE: [Computer-go] Significance of resignation in AGZ > >   > > I didn’t measure precisely be

Re: [Computer-go] Significance of resignation in AGZ

2017-12-02 Thread Brian Sheppard via Computer-go
, YMMV, etc. From: Brian Sheppard [mailto:sheppar...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 5:39 PM To: 'computer-go' <computer-go@computer-go.org> Subject: RE: [Computer-go] Significance of resignation in AGZ I didn’t measure precisely because as soon as I saw the training artif

Re: [Computer-go] Significance of resignation in AGZ

2017-12-01 Thread Brian Sheppard via Computer-go
computer-go <computer-go@computer-go.org> Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Significance of resignation in AGZ Brian, do you have any experiments showing what kind of impact it has? It sounds like you have tried both with and without your ad hoc first pass approach? 2017-12-01

[Computer-go] Significance of resignation in AGZ

2017-12-01 Thread Brian Sheppard via Computer-go
I have concluded that AGZ's policy of resigning "lost" games early is somewhat significant. Not as significant as using residual networks, for sure, but you wouldn't want to go without these advantages. The benefit cited in the paper is speed. Certainly a factor. I see two other advantages.