Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-23 Thread folkert
check the output of `dmesg' to see if it segfaulted and/or ulimit -c unlimited so that you will find a core file On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 03:45:18PM -0700, Peter Drake wrote: Nope, we're still getting these crashes with more memory in the system. It still looks like it's always GNU Go that's

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-19 Thread Peter Drake
-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior CentOS Linux release 7.1.1503 64 bit I'm not sure which compiler the make script invoked, but I have these installed: gcc (GCC) 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-9) cc (GCC) 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-9

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-19 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
:22 PM Subject: Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior CentOS Linux release 7.1.1503 64 bit I'm not sure which compiler the make script invoked, but I have these installed: gcc (GCC) 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-9) cc (GCC) 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-9

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-19 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
Configure doesn't seem happy with that: I'm not familiar with CentOS, but maybe need to install # yum -y install glibc-devel.i386 libstdc++-devel.i386 or # yum -y install glibc-devel.i686 glibc-devel ibstdc++-devel.i686 Hiroshi Yamashita ___

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-19 Thread uurtamo .
So what is the 64-bit problem? (Or did I misread?) On Jun 19, 2015 8:04 PM, Peter Drake dr...@lclark.edu wrote: Okay, that worked (with the correction that ibstdc should be libstdc). The new version doesn't choke on my sgf file! Now for the acid test, running the whole experiment... On

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-19 Thread Peter Drake
I got through the whole 640-game experiment without a crash! (The cloud is a wonder, allowing me to play 640 games in under an hour.) Many thanks to everyone for your help. One game did run very long, thanks to GNU Go. See the time left signals in the SGF:

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-19 Thread Peter Drake
Okay, that worked (with the correction that ibstdc should be libstdc). The new version doesn't choke on my sgf file! Now for the acid test, running the whole experiment... On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Hiroshi Yamashita y...@bd.mbn.or.jp wrote: Configure doesn't seem happy with that:

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-19 Thread Peter Drake
I don't know the details, but apparently GNU Go has some subtle instabilities when compiled for 64 bits. I would guess that it has to do with the fact that in C, the sizes of primitive types are platform-dependent. On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 8:12 PM, uurtamo . uurt...@gmail.com wrote: So what is

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-19 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
[drake@broadcast ~]$ gnugo --infile results/2015/06/19/03:21:15.950/instance17-b1-2015-06-19-03:21:31.287.sgf Segmentation fault Your sgf is ok on theres 4 environments. It took about 1 minute though. GNU Go 3.9.1 gcc 4.1.2, Debian 4.1.1-21, 32bit GNU Go 3.8 gcc 4.1.2, Debian 4.1.1-21,

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-19 Thread Peter Drake
CentOS Linux release 7.1.1503 64 bit I'm not sure which compiler the make script invoked, but I have these installed: gcc (GCC) 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-9) cc (GCC) 4.8.3 20140911 (Red Hat 4.8.3-9) On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Hiroshi Yamashita y...@bd.mbn.or.jp wrote:

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-19 Thread Detlef Schmicker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ubunut 12.04 (64 bit) self compiled with gcc -v Using built-in specs. COLLECT_GCC=gcc COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.8/lto-wrapper Target: x86_64-linux-gnu Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Ubuntu

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-18 Thread Peter Drake
I haven't been able to reproduce it in isolation yet (including by replaying from an SGF), but when I run several hundred games, this consistently happens in several of them. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:57 PM, René van de Veerdonk rene.vandeveerd...@gmail.com wrote: Can you reproduce it issuing

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-18 Thread Peter Drake
I applied both of those patches to 3.8 (the stable version on http://www.gnu.org/software/gnugo/), but the problem has not gone away. Is there a more stable version? I finally found a file that causes the problem (attached). Specifically: [drake@broadcast ~]$ gnugo --infile

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-18 Thread uurtamo .
What does it do for memory management? Is it ungracefully failing while evaluating the ladder itself due to ram issues? steve On Jun 18, 2015 12:15 PM, Peter Drake dr...@lclark.edu wrote: This list may not be able to help, but I'm running out of clues on this one. I'm trying to run an

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-18 Thread Peter Drake
I have no idea what GNU Go does for memory management, but that does offer up a possibility: maybe the machine in question (a Google Compute Engine instance) is running out of memory. I've been using the highcpu machine types; I'll try a standard one (which has more memory) and see if the same

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-18 Thread Peter Drake
Nope, we're still getting these crashes with more memory in the system. It still looks like it's always GNU Go that's crashing, and it always happens some way into a ladder that Orego shouldn't really be playing out. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Peter Drake dr...@lclark.edu wrote: I have no

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-18 Thread Petr Baudis
Hi! I've observed the same thing when playtesting Pachi against GNUGo, since very long ago. If you look a few moves back, you will see GNUGo already taking progressively longer time as the ladder is played out. IMHO there's some crazy exptime backtrack that gets out of hand at some point.

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-18 Thread René van de Veerdonk
Can you reproduce it issuing gtp commands, i.e., loading in the failing position from sgf-file and requesting gnugo to generate a move? Example: loadsgf games/strategy25.sgf 61 gg_genmove black On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Petr Baudis pa...@ucw.cz wrote: Hi! I've observed the

Re: [Computer-go] Strange GNU Go ladder behavior

2015-06-18 Thread Hiroshi Yamashita
2) At some point in the ladder, GNU Go quietly dies without responding to the move request. Could you reproduce that? Do you have sgf? GNU Go has some troubles in some compiler and OS. e.g. GNU Go 3.9.1. gcc 4.1.2, Debian 4.1.1-21, 32bit stops following sgf. I use own patch for GNU Go