Re: [Computer-go] Subject: Re: AlphaGo Zero

2017-10-20 Thread Robert Jasiek

On 20.10.2017 16:44, Hendrik Baier wrote:

Where is the respect and the appreciation for other people's
groundbreaking work without immediately having to make the discussion
about your own research, or otherwise derailing it into the irrelevant
or fantastical?


Instead of joining your meta-discussion, let me point out some motivation:
- Research should also proceed after groundbreaking work.
- Research should not be isolated but different research approaches can 
be combined. Research is not a one-way street.
- Research in go also serves as a model for research in other or more 
general fields, such as generalised AI, which includes use of AI to 
provide a) interchange with semantics of human domains or b) assistance 
for or replacement of human activities, such as car driving, which 
profit from avoiding errors. Therefore I discuss these aspects.
- Ethical questions are becoming increasingly important in view of the 
fast progress of AI. Surely you are aware that Deepmind knows this.


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robert jasiek
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[Computer-go] Subject: Re: AlphaGo Zero

2017-10-20 Thread Hendrik Baier
Where is the respect and the appreciation for other people's
groundbreaking work without immediately having to make the discussion
about your own research, or otherwise derailing it into the irrelevant
or fantastical?

Congratulations again to the AlphaGo team! Excellent work well
described, a pleasure to read.

Hendrik Baier


> So there is a superstrong neural net.
>
> 1) Where is the semantic translation of the neural net to human theory
> knowledge?
>
> 2) Where is the analysis of the neural net's errors in decision-making?
>
> 3) Where is the world-wide discussion preventing a combination of AI and
> (nano-)robots, which self-replicate or permanently ensure energy access,
> from causing extinction of mankind?
>
> --
> robert jasiek
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