Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-22 Thread Tom Piwowar
I still have a real IBM 360 'Green Card circa 1969 in my collection. Anyone remember those? My OS/VS JCL Syntax Reference Summary (1972) is green. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy **

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-21 Thread Jordan
No Tom Piwowar wrote: I hope the electronic Kindle, and the like, doesn't replace printed books. Are electronic books sufficiently similar to MP3s that they will do to books what MP3s did to CDs? * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-21 Thread Jordan
Thank-you mike wrote: I listen to audiobooks all the time, but always in situations where books wouldn't do well. At work at times, in the car a lot...they are fantastic for long commutes. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Vicky Staubly vi...@steeds.com wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-21 Thread Brian Jones
Remember the days when your computers' documentation outweighed your computer by about 3 to 1? - Original Message - From: Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com Are electronic books sufficiently similar to MP3s that they will do to books what MP3s did to CDs?

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-21 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Vicky Staubly vi...@steeds.com wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve at Verizon wrote: Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. Not so. I have books read to me, sometimes by the author. I read a book only when it

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-21 Thread Tom Piwowar
Remember the days when your computers' documentation outweighed your computer by about 3 to 1? I used to carry a half dozen reference cards, most of what I needed was there. Now 30 years later I still pull out one of those cards about once a year.

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-21 Thread Eric S. Sande
I used to carry a half dozen reference cards, most of what I needed was there. Now 30 years later I still pull out one of those cards about once a year. I can relate to that. * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-21 Thread Steve at Verizon
I still have a real IBM 360 'Green Card circa 1969 in my collection. Anyone remember those? Eric S. Sande wrote: I used to carry a half dozen reference cards, most of what I needed was there. Now 30 years later I still pull out one of those cards about once a year. I can relate to that.

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yes and no. Music is Music. CD/DVD/LP/Cassette/MP3 are all mediums to deliver the content of music. Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. The medium it is presented in determines how it can be used. When I was in school we carried books, and marked them according to

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Tom Piwowar
I hope the electronic Kindle, and the like, doesn't replace printed books. Are electronic books sufficiently similar to MP3s that they will do to books what MP3s did to CDs? * ** List info, subscription management, list

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread db
I'm not necessarily a proponent for electronic readers but just note that with Kindle you can take notes on pages, insert bookmarks etc... Never done it myself but just know that you can. One thing about all electronic data systems ... e-publishing systems being one of them ... it seems to

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Steve at Verizon
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. Not so. I have books read to me, sometimes by the author. I read a book only when it is not available in an unabridged audiobook format. Most are ripped from CD audiobooks in our county library but I

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve at Verizon wrote: Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Books on the other hand are something that has to be read. Not so. I have books read to me, sometimes by the author. I read a book only when it is not available in an unabridged audiobook format. Most are ripped from

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread mike
I listen to audiobooks all the time, but always in situations where books wouldn't do well. At work at times, in the car a lot...they are fantastic for long commutes. On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Vicky Staubly vi...@steeds.com wrote: On Wed, 20 May 2009, Steve at Verizon wrote: Rev.

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Steve at Verizon
Somewhat the same here. Audiobooks are great when spending an otherwise boring 45 minutes on a treadmill. Or that 5 hour drive to NY. I also enjoy a half hour listen after turning out the lights in bed. Like being read to as a kid. Didn't mean to sound like an audiobook fanatic. I fully

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That was exactly what I was getting at. IN some instances an audio book is great. In other instances it does not translate well. I am a great fan of the Audio book reader on NPR, and he usually reads light fiction which works well. A more intense book, such as a work volume takes more

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Tom Piwowar
In a loose way, our current financial market derivatives problem is a metaphor that illustrates how that kind of centralized dependence can ultimately let us down in big ways... Close to on topic would be making this connection with music subscription services.

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Richard P.
The last audio book I listened to in the car had a very intense passage which I was deeply involved in. Right up to the point where the officer pulled me over for missing the 30mph speed limit sign after exiting the expressway. He did let me go after hearing my excuse. I now use audio books in a

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Jeff Miles
I totally agree about the need for books. There's nothing like the nostalgic feeling that comes from smelling a musty book pulled from the shelves. I love Macs, but will never get that feeling if I came across my old GS 2. Books are so physical. So is my cell phone, but in a very different

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I know. I have a partial set of books published before the revolutionary war, Hard bound in Leather with old pages and old German script. Recalling the history of those books and what they must of meant for the owners over the centuries is awesome. Stewart At 07:54 PM 5/20/2009, you

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-20 Thread Jeff Miles
I wanted to add to this after reading some of the other comments. To each their own. But for me a book on an electronic screen or being read to me is much like the read me files that come with applications. I rarely read them. With the exception of email, the closest I've come to really

[CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-19 Thread Tom Piwowar
I saw my first passenger reading on a Kindle today on the Metro. Will this be a trend? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-19 Thread Michael Drabick
Pardon my ignorance,but what is a Kindle? Tom Piwowar wrote: I saw my first passenger reading on a Kindle today on the Metro. Will this be a trend? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-19 Thread Richard P.
A friend of ours loves it and won't do without it. We prefer non-electronic books ourselves. Easier to read and they don't break when you fall asleep reading and drop them : )) Richard P. I saw my first passenger reading on a Kindle today on the Metro. Will this be a trend?

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-19 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Michael Drabick m.drab...@hdhcci.comwrote: Pardon my ignorance,but what is a Kindle? Amazon's eBook reader. A great looking gadget with a price about 3X too much. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00154JDAI/?tag=googhydr-20hvadid=ref=pd_sl_177pa6cuyf_e -- John

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-19 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Richard P. richs...@gmail.com wrote: A friend of ours loves it and won't do without it. We prefer non-electronic books ourselves. Easier to read and they don't break when you fall asleep reading and drop them : )) I think the real boon will be the Kindle DX

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-19 Thread Richard P.
I can see that would be a great use for them, especially if the electronic books would allow the updating of technical error corrections. Richard P. A friend of ours loves it and won't do without it. We prefer non-electronic books ourselves. Easier to read and they don't break when you fall

Re: [CGUYS] Kindle Sighting

2009-05-19 Thread b_s-wilk
A friend of ours loves it and won't do without it. We prefer non-electronic books ourselves. Easier to read and they don't break when you fall asleep reading and drop them : )) Paperbacks don't break when they get wet either, or when they get sand or dirt inside. I like to read books, then