Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-24 Thread Ron Stodden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. pack needed installed package(s) 2. put it in the urpmi cache (or where ever...) 3. rename it (pretty much like the troels perl script) 4. run rsync 5. do update For general information, the troels.rsync6.2.pl Mandrake downloader was recently replaced by a suite of

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Robert Fox
I got the 3.2 Alpha to work - neat stuff, but not for the faint of heart. The one thing I miss is the Mandrake specific menus )the standard KDE menu config is not very intuitive! I still think we should come up with a way to flag when some major component in Cooker is broken (whilst under

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Simon Oosthoek
I'm sure this was meant as sarcasm, but... On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 05:57:29AM +0200, Han Boetes wrote: Nope, you guys are our test subjects. Our labrats. :) This is the deal. We make packages and you make decent bugreports or you learn to live with the fact cooker is broken. What's the

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Quel Qun
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:57, Han Boetes wrote: David Kobler wrote: Can't we just set a simple standard to TEST YOUR PACKAGES before uploading ^^ them. It seems that simple things are constantly ignored by those who maintain the cooker RPMS. How hard would it be to test your rpms on

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Brad Felmey
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 22:57, Han Boetes wrote: This is the deal. We make packages and you make decent bugreports or you learn to live with the fact cooker is broken. Have you thought even a little bit about how wrong this approach is? The only way you're going to get _good_ testing is for

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Robert Fox
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 15:37, Brad Felmey wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 22:57, Han Boetes wrote: This is the deal. We make packages and you make decent bugreports or you learn to live with the fact cooker is broken. Have you thought even a little bit about how wrong this approach is?

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread illogic-al
On Wednesday 22 October 2003 11:44 pm, David Kobler wrote: Can't we just set a simple standard to TEST YOUR PACKAGES before uploading them. It seems that simple things are constantly ignored by those who maintain the cooker RPMS. How hard would it be to test your rpms on a recently

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD
On Thursday 23 October 2003 03:49 am, Simon Oosthoek wrote: I'm sure this was meant as sarcasm, but... On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 05:57:29AM +0200, Han Boetes wrote: Nope, you guys are our test subjects. Our labrats. :) This is the deal. We make packages and you make decent bugreports or you

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: I'd be happy if there were simply a rollback directory on the mirrors. In other words when a package is updated, yesterday's version rolls over to the rollback directory. Also, the reason I said yesterday's is often

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Thu Oct 23 18:55 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: I'd be happy if there were simply a rollback directory on the mirrors. In other words when a package is updated, yesterday's version rolls over to the rollback directory. Also, the reason I said yesterday's is often there are 2-3 quick

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Levi Ramsey wrote: On Thu Oct 23 18:55 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: Excellent idea, Buchan... you are a veritable fountain of such. Just not enough time to implement them ... at the moment ... ;-) - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Oden Eriksson
torsdagen den 23 oktober 2003 19.11 skrev Levi Ramsey: On Thu Oct 23 18:55 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: I'd be happy if there were simply a rollback directory on the mirrors. In other words when a package is updated, yesterday's version rolls over to the rollback directory.

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD
SO... has anyone managed to get a working KDE ??? Are we waiting for new KDE or QT rpms? If not, does anyone have the last working KDE someplace where I can download a copy? Thanks, Vinny.

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Brad Felmey
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 13:08, Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: SO... has anyone managed to get a working KDE ??? Are we waiting for new KDE or QT rpms? If not, does anyone have the last working KDE someplace where I can download a copy? Yeah, use the qt that comes with the KDE 3.2 alpha packages.

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Vincent Meyer, MD
On Thursday 23 October 2003 03:29 pm, Brad Felmey wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 13:08, Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: SO... has anyone managed to get a working KDE ??? Are we waiting for new KDE or QT rpms? If not, does anyone have the last working KDE someplace where I can download a copy?

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread kelk1
There is the --repackage rpm option, but despite several reports, I am afraid it is still broken because the %_repackage_dir macro expands to a non existing /var/spool/repackage directory. -o- kk1 torsdagen den 23 oktober 2003 19.11 skrev Levi Ramsey: On Thu Oct 23 18:55 +0200, Buchan Milne

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Michael Scherer
On Thursday 23 October 2003 11:10, Quel Qun wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:57, Han Boetes wrote: David Kobler wrote: Can't we just set a simple standard to TEST YOUR PACKAGES before uploading ^^ them. It seems that simple things are constantly ignored by those who

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-23 Thread Quel Qun
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 06:31, Michael Scherer wrote: On Thursday 23 October 2003 11:10, Quel Qun wrote: On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 20:57, Han Boetes wrote: David Kobler wrote: Can't we just set a simple standard to TEST YOUR PACKAGES before uploading ... Simple test cases, a minimal

[Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-22 Thread Robert Fox
After updating to the latest KDEbase (3.1.3-80) the KDE desktop no longer works. After reading the explanation given on this list (it's compiled with a newer QT version) - I was a bit upset. I have proposed previously on this list a way to warn Cooker testers when something is broken (because it

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-22 Thread Michael Lothian
I'm my fustration I've decided to switch to kde3.2 alpha 2 from http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~lmontel/kde-3.2-alpha2/ http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/%7Elmontel/kde-3.2-alpha2/ I think it at least works a bit, which wouldbe an improvement of it not working at all Mike Robert Fox wrote:

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-22 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Fox wrote: After updating to the latest KDEbase (3.1.3-80) the KDE desktop no longer works. After reading the explanation given on this list (it's compiled with a newer QT version) - I was a bit upset. I have proposed previously on this

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-22 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le mer 22/10/2003 à 10:23, Michael Lothian a écrit : I'm my fustration I've decided to switch to kde3.2 alpha 2 from http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~lmontel/kde-3.2-alpha2/ http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/%7Elmontel/kde-3.2-alpha2/ I think it at least works a bit, which wouldbe an

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-22 Thread Robert Fox
On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 15:18, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le mer 22/10/2003 à 10:23, Michael Lothian a écrit : I'm my fustration I've decided to switch to kde3.2 alpha 2 from http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~lmontel/kde-3.2-alpha2/ http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/%7Elmontel/kde-3.2-alpha2/

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-22 Thread Laurent Montel
Le Wednesday 22 October 2003 15:18, FACORAT Fabrice a écrit : Le mer 22/10/2003 à 10:23, Michael Lothian a écrit : I'm my fustration I've decided to switch to kde3.2 alpha 2 from http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~lmontel/kde-3.2-alpha2/

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-22 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le mer 22/10/2003 à 11:22, Robert Fox a écrit : On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 15:18, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le mer 22/10/2003 à 10:23, Michael Lothian a écrit : I'm my fustration I've decided to switch to kde3.2 alpha 2 from http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~lmontel/kde-3.2-alpha2/

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-22 Thread Michael Lothian
I'd just like to confirm that this works I couldn't get 3.2 to work at all :( Mike FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le mer 22/10/2003 à 11:22, Robert Fox a écrit : On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 15:18, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le mer 22/10/2003 à 10:23, Michael Lothian a écrit : I'm my fustration

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-22 Thread David Kobler
Can't we just set a simple standard to TEST YOUR PACKAGES before uploading them. It seems that simple things are constantly ignored by those who maintain the cooker RPMS. How hard would it be to test your rpms on a recently installed cooker box before uploading them? This would allow people to

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-22 Thread David Kobler
Can't we just set a simple standard to TEST YOUR PACKAGES before uploading them. It seems that simple things are constantly ignored by those who maintain the cooker RPMS. How hard would it be to test your rpms on a recently installed cooker box before uploading them? This would allow people to

Re: [Cooker] Broken KDE in Cooker

2003-10-22 Thread Han Boetes
David Kobler wrote: Can't we just set a simple standard to TEST YOUR PACKAGES before uploading ^^ them. It seems that simple things are constantly ignored by those who maintain the cooker RPMS. How hard would it be to test your rpms on a recently installed cooker box before uploading