Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-19 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan, This just occured to me When I had beta3 installed and just before RC1 came out qt3 and lib1t3 where upgraded. Let me see if my older disks are anywhere around... (slim chance) but just about that time my ability to launch kde3

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-19 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 06:07 am, Jan Ciger wrote: Jan, This just occured to me When I had beta3 installed and just before RC1 came out qt3 and lib1t3 where upgraded. Let me see if my older disks are anywhere around... (slim chance) but just about that time my ability to

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-19 Thread scott chevalley
Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 19 March 2003 06:07 am, Jan Ciger wrote: Jan, This just occured to me When I had beta3 installed and just before RC1 came out qt3 and lib1t3 where upgraded. Let me see if my older disks are anywhere around... (slim chance) but just about that time my

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-19 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 10:25 am, scott chevalley wrote: I'll ask again then. Should this be reported upstream? I didn't see anything about this in the KDE bugzilla. I did not check trolltech. It wasn't a kde problem... a patch was applied to libqt3 between 12mdk and 13mdk that

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-19 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 10:44 am, Frederic Crozat wrote: It wasn't a kde problem... a patch was applied to libqt3 between 12mdk and 13mdk that forces the use of AA fonts, which will fail if the Render extension is not present. There's a link in a previous message that points to a

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-19 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 11:12 am, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:08:23 -0500, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 19 March 2003 10:44 am, Frederic Crozat wrote: It wasn't a kde problem... a patch was applied to libqt3 between 12mdk and 13mdk that forces the use of AA fonts,

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-19 Thread Gary Greene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 19 March 2003 11:47 am, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 19 March 2003 11:12 am, Frederic Crozat wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:08:23 -0500, Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 19 March 2003 10:44 am, Frederic Crozat wrote: It wasn't a

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-19 Thread Greg Meyer
On Wednesday 19 March 2003 12:05 pm, Gary Greene wrote: I know, and I don't mean to be rude. I am willing to report this upstream, I just would like someone from MandrakeSoft to let me know if this is desireable, or if it is better handled through official channels since it affects the

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-19 Thread scott chevalley
Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 19 March 2003 12:05 pm, Gary Greene wrote: I know, and I don't mean to be rude. I am willing to report this upstream, I just would like someone from MandrakeSoft to let me know if this is desireable, or if it is better handled through official channels since it

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Montag, 17. März 2003, 15:31:41 Uhr MET, schrieb Jesse Wagner: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:02:33 +0100, Götz Waschk Would you happen to have a changelog for this release of nautilus/GNOME? Yes, but I'm not google. Take a look at the gnome web site. -- Götz Waschk master of computer science

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Jesse Wagner
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003 09:11:06 +0100, Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Am Montag, 17. März 2003, 15:31:41 Uhr MET, schrieb Jesse Wagner: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:02:33 +0100, Götz Waschk Would you happen to have a changelog for this release of nautilus/GNOME? Yes, but I'm not google. Take a

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Dienstag, 18. März 2003, 03:26:10 Uhr MET, schrieb Jesse Wagner: Yea, I tried that. And I tried google. No such luck. So you were afraid of downloading the tarballs? The source is also browsable through the web-CVS of gnome. From the NEWS file of eel: This is eel 2.2.2. It is part of the

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don't you want to try a Qt-only app on GNOME to confirm? mysqlcc or qcad or something else qt-only should do. Just tried a pure qt app in an Xnested Fluxbox and it segfaults. The same app runs fine in gnome: $ ./qttest Xlib: extension

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 07:00 am, Jan Ciger wrote: Don't you want to try a Qt-only app on GNOME to confirm? mysqlcc or qcad or something else qt-only should do. Just tried a pure qt app in an Xnested Fluxbox and it segfaults. The same app runs fine in gnome: $ ./qttest

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Ken Mays
I just checked the sources of Gnome 2.2.1 and noticed the March 15, 2003 timestamps (ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/desktop/2.2/2.2.1/sources/). Although I'd like to see Mandrake be the first distro of Gnome v2.2.1 in the next v9.1, would the wait for the Mandrake v9.1 release be worth it include

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread scott chevalley
Jan Ciger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don't you want to try a Qt-only app on GNOME to confirm? mysqlcc or qcad or something else qt-only should do. Just tried a pure qt app in an Xnested Fluxbox and it segfaults. The same app runs fine in gnome: $ ./qttest

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 04:00, Jan Ciger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don't you want to try a Qt-only app on GNOME to confirm? mysqlcc or qcad or something else qt-only should do. Just tried a pure qt app in an Xnested Fluxbox and it segfaults. The same

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Todd Lyons
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 G?tz Waschk wrote on Tue, Mar 18, 2003 at 12:46:21PM +0100 : Yea, I tried that. And I tried google. No such luck. So you were afraid of downloading the tarballs? The source is also browsable through the web-CVS of gnome. From the NEWS file of

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan, I get the same thing here in a regular window (ie my desktop) anti-aliasing etc is working fine. But only in vnc or Xnest do the qt applications give this kind of error. Same version of vnc in 9.0 works fine. So I don't suspect vnc.

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 04:33, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 18 March 2003 07:00 am, Jan Ciger wrote: Don't you want to try a Qt-only app on GNOME to confirm? mysqlcc or qcad or something else qt-only should do. Just tried a pure qt app in an Xnested Fluxbox and it segfaults. The

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread scott chevalley
Jan Ciger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan, I get the same thing here in a regular window (ie my desktop) anti-aliasing etc is working fine. But only in vnc or Xnest do the qt applications give this kind of error. Same version of vnc in 9.0 works fine. So I don't

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 10:20, Jan Ciger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan, I get the same thing here in a regular window (ie my desktop) anti-aliasing etc is working fine. But only in vnc or Xnest do the qt applications give this kind of error. Same version

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Bob Brickey
I do believe this worked for me recently... I think it became broken, at least that I noticed it, around RC1 or just afterwards... and I know that kde apps, and Xft in general is supposed to automatically fall back to the normal rendering if the RENDER extension is not available... scott The

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You do get the same error when running the same app directly (without Xnest or VNC) ? Then how come that the antialiasing works, when it does not have Render ? Either I am missing something or we do not understand each other. oops should

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 01:33 pm, scott chevalley wrote: I do believe this worked for me recently... I think it became broken, at least that I noticed it, around RC1 or just afterwards... and I know that kde apps, and Xft in general is supposed to automatically fall back to the normal

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 02:28 pm, Jan Ciger wrote: You do get the same error when running the same app directly (without Xnest or VNC) ? Then how come that the antialiasing works, when it does not have Render ? Either I am missing something or we do not understand each other. oops

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 02:28 pm, Jan Ciger wrote: You do get the same error when running the same app directly (without Xnest or VNC) ? Then how come that the antialiasing works, when it does not have Render ? Either I am missing something or we do not understand each other. oops

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 11:28, Jan Ciger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You do get the same error when running the same app directly (without Xnest or VNC) ? Then how come that the antialiasing works, when it does not have Render ? Either I am missing something or

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 02:28 pm, Jan Ciger wrote: You do get the same error when running the same app directly (without Xnest or VNC) ? Then how come that the antialiasing works, when it does not have Render ? Either I am missing something or we do not understand each other. oops

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 11:28, Jan Ciger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You do get the same error when running the same app directly (without Xnest or VNC) ? Then how come that the antialiasing works, when it does not have Render ? Either I am missing something or

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 07:08 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 11:28, Jan Ciger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You do get the same error when running the same app directly (without Xnest or VNC) ? Then how come that the antialiasing works,

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 08:54 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: Greg, If you want I can send these rpms to you for verification. I just rebuilt qt with the 3.1.1-12 spec file from cvs and the problem is gone. Laurent applied a patch for -13 that turned on AA by default. See my other

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-03-18 at 18:04, Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 18 March 2003 08:54 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: Greg, If you want I can send these rpms to you for verification. I just rebuilt qt with the 3.1.1-12 spec file from cvs and the problem is gone. Laurent applied a patch for

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-18 Thread Bob Brickey
For anyone that wants to test, I have posted the libqt3.1.1-12mdk rpms that I rebuilt here: http://cybercfo.gkmweb.com/RPMS Since falling back to those RPMS I can once again run KDE programs from Gnome. It is good to know what the problem has been. I haven't tried running tightvnc server from

[Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread LUGGE
Will it be included in the upcoming 9.1 ? - ** http://www.gnomedesktop.org/search.php?query=topic=60* The GNOME Project is pleased to announce the immediate availability of the GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop and Developer Platform! The 2.2.x series is devoted to bugfixes, translations, and

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Montag, 17. März 2003, 14:37:45 Uhr MET, schrieb LUGGE: Will it be included in the upcoming 9.1 ? Yes, if manage to build and test it in the next fifteen minutes. -- Götz Waschk master of computer science University of Rostock

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 17 March 2003 08:41 am, Götz Waschk wrote: Am Montag, 17. März 2003, 14:37:45 Uhr MET, schrieb LUGGE: Will it be included in the upcoming 9.1 ? Yes, if manage to build and test it in the next fifteen minutes. ROTFLMAO Well then, you should be able to sneak a few more things in

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Montag, 17. März 2003, 08:51:09 Uhr MET, schrieb Greg Meyer: But this does mean that 9.1 goes out the door with KDE and KDE apps unable to run in Xnest or vnc. Major, major, major, and it means I'm going to have to stick to 9.0. oh Poo. As long as GNOME apps run fine I don't mind :-) But I

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 13:41, Götz Waschk wrote: Am Montag, 17. März 2003, 14:37:45 Uhr MET, schrieb LUGGE: Will it be included in the upcoming 9.1 ? Yes, if manage to build and test it in the next fifteen minutes. GNOME minor releases are sort-of rolling as well, I seem to remember, so we

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 13:51, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 March 2003 08:41 am, Götz Waschk wrote: Am Montag, 17. März 2003, 14:37:45 Uhr MET, schrieb LUGGE: Will it be included in the upcoming 9.1 ? Yes, if manage to build and test it in the next fifteen minutes. ROTFLMAO Well

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Montag, 17. März 2003, 13:45:45 Uhr MET, schrieb Adam Williamson: GNOME minor releases are sort-of rolling as well, I seem to remember, so we probably have a mix of 2.2.0 and 2.2.1 in Cooker. We don't have the newest Nautilus, though, I don't think. That not nice, but it's simply too late.

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 17 March 2003 08:58 am, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 13:51, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 March 2003 08:41 am, Götz Waschk wrote: Am Montag, 17. März 2003, 14:37:45 Uhr MET, schrieb LUGGE: Will it be included in the upcoming 9.1 ? Yes, if manage to build

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 March 2003 08:58 am, Adam Williamson wrote: Yes. At first I thought it was Galaxy, because GNOME had trouble too. This was only because the galaxy window that pops for new users is qt. Once you prevent that from

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread Bob Brickey
But this does mean that 9.1 goes out the door with KDE and KDE apps unable to run in Xnest or vnc. Major, major, major, and it means I'm going to have to stick to 9.0. oh Poo. -- Greg I agree that being unable to run in Xnest or use vnc is a major problem. It is inconceivable to me that anyone

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread Ken Mays
v9.1(RC) earlier in the testing cycle so issues can/may get resolved NOW before release. Just my penny stock opinion... ~Ken - Original Message - From: Bob Brickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 05:51, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 March 2003 08:41 am, Götz Waschk wrote: Am Montag, 17. März 2003, 14:37:45 Uhr MET, schrieb LUGGE: Will it be included in the upcoming 9.1 ? Yes, if manage to build and test it in the next fifteen minutes. ROTFLMAO Well

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread Jesse Wagner
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:02:33 +0100, Götz Waschk [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Am Montag, 17. März 2003, 13:45:45 Uhr MET, schrieb Adam Williamson: GNOME minor releases are sort-of rolling as well, I seem to remember, so we probably have a mix of 2.2.0 and 2.2.1 in Cooker. We don't have the newest

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 07:04, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 March 2003 08:58 am, Adam Williamson wrote: Yes. At first I thought it was Galaxy, because GNOME had trouble too. This was only because the galaxy window

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 17 March 2003 06:13 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 05:51, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 March 2003 08:41 am, Götz Waschk wrote: Am Montag, 17. März 2003, 14:37:45 Uhr MET, schrieb LUGGE: Will it be included in the upcoming 9.1 ? Yes, if manage to build

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread Quel Qun
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 07:04, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 March 2003 08:58 am, Adam Williamson wrote: Yes. At first I thought it was Galaxy, because GNOME had trouble too. This was only because the galaxy window

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread Quel Qun
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 19:13, Quel Qun wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 07:04, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 March 2003 08:58 am, Adam Williamson wrote: Yes. At first I thought it was Galaxy, because GNOME had

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 17:39, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 March 2003 06:13 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 05:51, Greg Meyer wrote: On Monday 17 March 2003 08:41 am, Götz Waschk wrote: Am Montag, 17. März 2003, 14:37:45 Uhr MET, schrieb LUGGE: Will it be included

Re: [Cooker] GNOME 2.2.1 Desktop

2003-03-17 Thread Greg Meyer
On Tuesday 18 March 2003 01:20 am, James Sparenberg wrote: I would be curious to see if it is a XFree bug in 4.3 that does not exist in 4.2.1 also. Could I try to doengrade XFree to 4.2.1 on a 9.1 box and see what that does. There was someone in the Expert group trying to do just this...