On Monday 17 February 2003 10:30, Warly wrote:
Currently the machine running bugzilla is quite underpowered (PIII 700
with 256 MB of ram). As soon as I find some time and a more powerfull
computer, I switch it and decrease the processing to something like
5 minutes).
While you are at it.
On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 03:39, Danny Tholen wrote:
On Monday 17 February 2003 10:30, Warly wrote:
Currently the machine running bugzilla is quite underpowered (PIII 700
with 256 MB of ram). As soon as I find some time and a more powerfull
computer, I switch it and decrease the processing to
Jean-Michel Dault [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Each group could have a separate mailing list. This way, I wouldn't have
30,000 e-mails in one folder. It would be much easier to find stuff we
have to handle (in my case apache/php) from stuff I don't really care
about (I don't use gnome, except to
On Friday 14 February 2003 01:24 pm, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
Jean-Michel Dault [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Each group could have a separate mailing list. This way, I wouldn't have
30,000 e-mails in one folder. It would be much easier to find stuff we
have to handle (in my case apache/php)
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:24:30PM +0100, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
Why don't you use filters and scoring? With that, I don't have
trouble handling my bugs and the bugs on stuff I work on, or
related to my work. And bugzilla by email is very fast and
efficient. I don't have any problem
This time Brook Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
becomes daring and writes:
On Friday 14 February 2003 01:24 pm, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
Jean-Michel Dault [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Each group could have a separate mailing list. This way, I wouldn't have
30,000 e-mails in one folder. It
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Ben Reser wrote:
I was using the mail interface but it took hours for Bugzilla to pickup
my comment/changes etc. So the web interface is faster for me...
The mail interface has normally been pretty fast for me, since I normally
have had to go back to it and reset the
Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I was using the mail interface but it took hours for Bugzilla to pickup
my comment/changes etc. So the web interface is faster for me...
There's a cron job run every 20 minutes that flushes the mails.
Warly told that it could be made faster if necessary
On Sat, Feb 15, 2003 at 12:17:23AM +0100, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
There's a cron job run every 20 minutes that flushes the mails.
Warly told that it could be made faster if necessary (when I
asked him), I thought to myself, and then I concluded that it was
not really necessary to have a
The two, I think.
A bug can be a KDE bug, or it can be a mail related bug.
But, to cross post he bug will generate noise on one of the two list
I really don't see how a bug in anything but a server (in which case the
group is known) would affect both mutt and kmail, unless it was a
Jean-Michel Dault [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What do you think?
i don't think it would be easier...
John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Austin Acton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The community should not be interpreted as a port or a fork or a new
project. IMHO, it should be just that, a community: with both corporate
and volunteer portions working as one.
OK, I may have misinterpreted
Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Saturday 08 February 2003 03:22 pm, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
J. Greenlees [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
creating a community for mandrake cannot be done without active support
fron mandrakesoft staff, or it isn't mandrake, it's based on mandrake.
the
Le mer 12/02/2003 à 14:31, Warly a écrit :
A first web page should points all the available document, and I should
definitely consider updating the Mandrake Linux policy and guidelines.
Regarding development and tasks, I though that some tweaks on bugzilla
could make it used as a task
I would recommend using a Wiki, just like the one we have for internal
engineering. It's easy to install, manage, and very low on resources.
What's more, anyone can create a topic and link it to a project page.
Each group could have a separate mailing list. This way, I wouldn't have
30,000
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 19:15, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
Le mer 12/02/2003 à 14:31, Warly a écrit :
A first web page should points all the available document, and I should
definitely consider updating the Mandrake Linux policy and guidelines.
Regarding development and tasks, I though
Michael Scherer wrote:
What do you think?
Well, great idea, already discussed :-)
But, it will take a lot of time to choose the groups of each package
All packages have groups, and are probably close enough to be used:
rpm -qa --qf '%{GROUP}\t%{NAME}\n'|sort
Buchan
--
Le Mercredi 12 Février 2003 21:09, Buchan Milne a écrit :
But, it will take a lot of time to choose the groups of each package
All packages have groups, and are probably close enough to be used:
rpm -qa --qf '%{GROUP}\t%{NAME}\n'|sort
So, what should be the name pf the group talking of
At 02:15 PM 2/12/03 -0400, you (Jean-Michel Dault) wrote:
I would recommend using a Wiki, just like the one we have for internal
engineering. It's easy to install, manage, and very low on resources.
What's more, anyone can create a topic and link it to a project page.
Wiki are great for
Michael Scherer wrote:
Le Mercredi 12 Février 2003 21:09, Buchan Milne a écrit :
So, what should be the name pf the group talking of kmail ?
Networking-Mail or Graphical_desktop-KDE ?
Does it belong with mutt or with knode and lisa etc?
But, this is a good idea, and I still wonders why I
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 21:47, Gerard Patel wrote:
At 02:15 PM 2/12/03 -0400, you (Jean-Michel Dault) wrote:
I would recommend using a Wiki, just like the one we have for internal
engineering. It's easy to install, manage, and very low on resources.
What's more, anyone can create a topic
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Michael Scherer wrote:
So, what should be the name pf the group talking of kmail ?
Networking-Mail or Graphical_desktop-KDE ?
Does it belong with mutt or with knode and lisa etc?
The two, I think.
A bug can be a KDE bug, or it can be a mail related bug.
But, to
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On Wednesday 12 February 2003 01:15 pm, Jean-Michel Dault wrote:
Le mer 12/02/2003 à 14:31, Warly a écrit :
A first web page should points all the available document, and I should
definitely consider updating the Mandrake Linux policy and
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 22:47, Sascha Noyes wrote:
I think a wiki is definately needed. It is at the moment probably the most
flexible and yet powerful collaboration tool available for an open community
like the Mandrake community is. (Witness www.wikipedia.org)
The sooner - the better ;-)
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 17:47, Sascha Noyes wrote:
I think a wiki is definately needed. It is at the moment probably the most
flexible and yet powerful collaboration tool available for an open community
like the Mandrake community is. (Witness www.wikipedia.org)
The sooner - the better ;-)
I
Le mer 12/02/2003 à 16:47, Gerard Patel a écrit :
Wiki are great for internal projects and small, unknown projects.
Mandrake is big and has a lot of controversial stuff associated with it,
so people posting unwanted stuff such as trolls, flames, support request,
political statements, insults,
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 14:59, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 22:47, Sascha Noyes wrote:
I think a wiki is definately needed. It is at the moment probably the most
flexible and yet powerful collaboration tool available for an open community
like the Mandrake community is.
Le Mercredi 12 Février 2003 19:31, Warly a écrit :
A first web page should points all the available document, and I should
definitely consider updating the Mandrake Linux policy and guidelines.
Definitely.
We do want documentation about mdk-specific organisation, such as:
- release process
-
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 02:47, Greg Meyer wrote:
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On Sunday 09 February 2003 06:05 pm, Gustavo Franco wrote:
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 15:36, Steve Fox wrote:
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:36, Gustavo Franco wrote:
Any person has the same view of my
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 03:22, Steve Fox wrote:
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 22:47, Greg Meyer wrote:
In my estimation, you have completely misrepresented the discussion that was
going on here by substituting your own wishful thinking and by using out of
context comments by people committed to
On 10 Feb 2003, Gustavo Franco wrote:
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 02:47, Greg Meyer wrote:
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On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 15:36, Steve Fox wrote:
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:36, Gustavo Franco
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On Monday 10 February 2003 12:22 am, Steve Fox wrote:
The only thing in doubt is the reference
to 'Mandrake developers', which makes it sound like Mandrakesoft
employees were in this discussion, which they were not.
The article insinuates that the
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On Monday 10 February 2003 03:15 am, Gustavo Franco wrote:
Stupid estimation! My name isn't Martin Schulze!!! I was sent a mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the url of this thread, if you can read my
name isn't cited in the news.The DWN issue #6
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Greg Meyer wrote:
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On Monday 10 February 2003 12:22 am, Steve Fox wrote:
The only thing in doubt is the reference
to 'Mandrake developers', which makes it sound like Mandrakesoft
employees were in this discussion, which
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 10:41, Greg Meyer wrote:
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On Monday 10 February 2003 03:15 am, Gustavo Franco wrote:
Stupid estimation! My name isn't Martin Schulze!!! I was sent a mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the url of this thread, if you can
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 10:34, Guy.Bormann wrote:
On 10 Feb 2003, Gustavo Franco wrote:
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 02:47, Greg Meyer wrote:
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On Sunday 09 February 2003 06:05 pm, Gustavo Franco wrote:
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 15:36, Steve Fox
this might be just the place to put a plug in for the mandrake-ot mail list,
something created by a mandrake user, to help keep S-N-R to the min.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the e-mail address, and it uses sympa so the
commands should be something most can handle, and if they need any further
help,
creating a community for mandrake cannot be done without active support fron
mandrakesoft staff, or it isn't mandrake, it's based on mandrake. the silence from
mandrake employees is deafening. ;) and without thier active support fatal to a
mandrake community based distro model.
warly if
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 06:27, Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
warly if the official speaker of this thread, blame him ;-).
Where is mdk management? Are they reading this? What do they think about
it? Are they allowed to comment (don't know about french laws). And more
important, how do they
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:36, Gustavo Franco wrote:
Any person has the same view of my messages as Lonnie?
Just a lurker on this thread (since it's really gone awry), but I would
say definitely not. You've been a very good diplomat for the Debian
project.
--
Steve Fox
http://k-lug.org
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 15:36, Steve Fox wrote:
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:36, Gustavo Franco wrote:
Any person has the same view of my messages as Lonnie?
Just a lurker on this thread (since it's really gone awry), but I would
say definitely not. You've been a very good diplomat for the
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 18:05, Gustavo Franco wrote:
I was sent a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] talking about the topics discussed
here, this thread will be reported in the next issue of Debian Weekly
News(DWN) [1].
[1] = http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/Writing/DWN/dwn-2003-06.html
Brilliant! What
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On Sunday 09 February 2003 06:05 pm, Gustavo Franco wrote:
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 15:36, Steve Fox wrote:
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 13:36, Gustavo Franco wrote:
Any person has the same view of my messages as Lonnie?
Just a lurker on this thread
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 22:47, Greg Meyer wrote:
In my estimation, you have completely misrepresented the discussion that was
going on here by substituting your own wishful thinking and by using out of
context comments by people committed to making Mandrake successful. That is
not being a
On Saturday 08 February 2003 12:34 pm, John Goerzen wrote:
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy
upgrade.I can see :P
We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto' (I have this in
cron), and it gives me more than
On Saturday 08 February 2003 18:34, John Goerzen wrote:
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy
upgrade.I can see :P
We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto' (I have this in
cron), and it gives me more than
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 17:34, John Goerzen wrote:
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy
upgrade.I can see :P
We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto' (I have this in
cron), and it gives me more than Debain
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 16:12, Steffen Barszus wrote:
On Saturday 08 February 2003 18:34, John Goerzen wrote:
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy
upgrade.I can see :P
We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 15:38, John Goerzen wrote:
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mandrake as a new project inside Debian.But it was refused here, many feels
involved.But if you change the original idea, try debian-project ML.The
Debian-Mandrake can receive financial support of
J. Greenlees [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
creating a community for mandrake cannot be done without active support fron
mandrakesoft staff, or it isn't mandrake, it's based on mandrake. the silence from
mandrake employees is deafening. ;) and without thier active support fatal to a
mandrake
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The latest Debian release, called Woody doesn't supports XFS officially,
but you can use a solution[1] made by a developer.The reason is very
simple: Stability first, features[2] after.
If your choice is: Features first.Debian can solve your problems
John Goerzen wrote:
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy
upgrade.I can see :P
We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto' (I have this in
cron), and it gives me more than Debain does, unless Debian has XFS+ACL
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 18:53, Buchan Milne wrote:
John Goerzen wrote:
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In one months or two you're doing: apt-get update; apt-get -uy
upgrade.I can see :P
We have 'urpmi.update -a; urpmi --auto-select --auto' (I have this in
cron), and it gives
You know, the best thing about Linux is that nobody forces you to use
anything that you don't want to. In other words, not one person is
forcing anybody to use or to contribute to Mandrake. If you feel that
you are not getting what you need from Mandrake, then for heaven's sake
please go find
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What's the discussion here? It isn't useful for us!
please guys don't start a Debian vs Mdk-LNX threads it's completely
useless and out of context...
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 19:28, Lonnie Borntreger wrote:
You know, the best thing about Linux is that nobody forces you to use
anything that you don't want to. In other words, not one person is
forcing anybody to use or to contribute to Mandrake. If you feel that
you are not getting what you
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 19:28, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What's the discussion here? It isn't useful for us!
please guys don't start a Debian vs Mdk-LNX threads it's completely
useless and out of context...
Definitely, i agree.But some people are
Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 22:28, Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit :
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What's the discussion here? It isn't useful for us!
please guys don't start a Debian vs Mdk-LNX threads it's completely
useless and out of context...
Well, I think, for the good of all
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 19:51, Michael Scherer wrote:
Le Samedi 8 Février 2003 22:28, Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit :
Gustavo Franco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What's the discussion here? It isn't useful for us!
please guys don't start a Debian vs Mdk-LNX threads it's completely
useless and
Any person has the same view of my messages as Lonnie?
ET, stands up waving both arms above head like a mad man who has been stuck on
a desert island for years, upon seeing his rescue ship.
Lonnie spoke for me too..
On Saturday 08 February 2003 03:22 pm, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
J. Greenlees [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
creating a community for mandrake cannot be done without active support
fron mandrakesoft staff, or it isn't mandrake, it's based on mandrake.
the silence from mandrake employees is
Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
part of the Debian Project. You guys went way out in left field on this one
and then wonder why they did not participate
we trying to work instead of trolling.
/me go out nightclub saturday night 1ham good time to go shake on the
dance floor/
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 13:56, John Goerzen wrote:
If the code in Mandrake is GPL'd, then isn't their official blessing
irrelevant? If it's not GPL'd or under another Free license, then that
is something that's going to have to be dealt with before any
community project based on it.
The
On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 14:03, John Goerzen wrote:
Mandrake's
installer is a lot nicer than Debian's, but Debian's package manager
makes upgrades easier.
Oh, that old chestnut.
This is the last place you want to be insulting urpmi!
:-)
One possibility is forming a Debian-Mandrake project in
Quoting John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Austin Acton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well preliminary questions are:
1. Is there any hope of MandrakeSoft adopting a plan like this?
2. If so, will they administer it? In other words, do THEY want to
reorganize into a more community-based
Le Vendredi 7 Février 2003 19:51, John Goerzen a écrit :
I would like to try to offer a bit of insight
on what Debian has done right, what Debian has done wrong, and perhaps
explore some areas Debian can work together with the Mandrake
community in the future.
You 're welcome.
I also like
On Fri Feb 07 12:54 -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
Austin Acton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The point is not to become debian. The point is to learn from their
organizational success.
And failures, too. Debian has some of each.
How many developers do you see the Mandrake community having?
Quoting Levi Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri Feb 07 12:54 -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
How many developers do you see the Mandrake community having?
If I had to guess, I'd say somewhere between 40 and 100, somewhere
around 20-50% of whom are MandrakeSoft employees. Don't quote me on
that,
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