[COOT] Automatic column asignment for refmac

2009-11-30 Thread Alexander . Schiffer
Dear Paul, There seems to be a problem with the automatic asignment for F and SIGF when using a file from phaser (processed by autoproc). The FCTR column seems to be used instead of F but there is no reference what has been used in the logfile (sample attached). Unfortunately the only

Re: [COOT] Automatic column asignment for refmac

2009-11-30 Thread Kevin Cowtan
Hi! Coot has to be told what columns to use for different programs. We've coded fore refmac, phenix.refine and my density modification programs, but not for phaser because no-one has asked. Can you send me a dump of the mtz header with a list of the columns? Which columns would you like used

Re: [COOT] Automatic column asignment for refmac

2009-11-30 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Dear Alexander, FCTR looks like it is coming from a BUSTER refinement: http://www.globalphasing.com/buster/manual/buster/manual/chapter5.html#mlphas This column is obviously only intended for looking at maps (however: usually one looks at the 2FOFCWT/PH2FOFCWT and FOFCWT/PHFOFCWT maps). So

Re: [COOT] Automatic column asignment for refmac

2009-11-30 Thread Alexander . Schiffer
Hi Kevin, As Clemens pointed out it was not a phaser but a user problem. I accidently used a buster mtz file for phaser. For autoproc - phaser everything works as expected. I have attached the mtzdump of a buster mtz-file. If you could support auto-open for that it would be great. Do you see a

Re: [COOT] Automatic column asignment for refmac

2009-11-30 Thread Bernhard Lohkamp
Hi, the automatic selection of structure factors for refinement happens in Refmac and not in Coot. This is one for Garib. I dont know exactly how Refmac chooses which structure factors to use, but it certainly should write the selected ones in the log file (maybe newer versions of refmac

Re: [COOT] Automatic column asignment for refmac

2009-11-30 Thread Kevin Cowtan
OK, so the map coefficients are: 1. FCTR PHICTR 2. 2FOFCWT PH2FOFCWT 3. FOFCWT PHFOFCWT 4. FOFRGSLV PHFOFRGSLV 5. FC PHIC 6. FOSC SIGFOSC I think that auto-open (assuming you are using a 0.6pre from the last 6 months) should automatically pick up (2) and (3) for a normal and difference map -

Re: [COOT] Automatic column asignment for refmac

2009-11-30 Thread Kevin Cowtan
Bernhard is right, sorry. Ignore me! Kevin Bernhard Lohkamp wrote: Hi, the automatic selection of structure factors for refinement happens in Refmac and not in Coot. This is one for Garib. I dont know exactly how Refmac chooses which structure factors to use, but it certainly should write

Re: [COOT] Automatic column asignment for refmac

2009-11-30 Thread Garib Murshudov
At the moment refmac does extremely simple selection. First structure factor label and the first sigma that has similar name to the first structure factor, if not then the first sigma. It works for a class of cases but it cannot be universal. While we are on this matter I think it would be

Re: [COOT] Automatic column asignment for refmac

2009-11-30 Thread Bernhard Lohkamp
Alexander, Do you see a way to include in the refmac-from-coot logfile which mtz columns were used? No, since, as mentioned earlier, this is a refmac decision. However I agree that the refmac log file should tell you which column was used when automatically picking SF (maybe it does

Re: [COOT] Automatic column asignment for refmac

2009-11-30 Thread Garib Murshudov
Yes. It should and I will add it now. I do not think refmac writes this info into the output file but it will do in one or two days time. GArib On 30 Nov 2009, at 11:32, Bernhard Lohkamp wrote: Alexander, Do you see a way to include in the refmac-from-coot logfile which mtz columns were

Re: [COOT] Automatic column asignment for refmac

2009-11-30 Thread Clemens Vonrhein
Hi Kevin, just for the record (even if the original question/thread was about something slightly different): On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:13:14AM +, Kevin Cowtan wrote: OK, so the map coefficients are: 1. FCTR PHICTR 2. 2FOFCWT PH2FOFCWT 3. FOFCWT PHFOFCWT 4. FOFRGSLV PHFOFRGSLV 5. FC

[COOT] How to make a map file readable

2009-11-30 Thread pebblepeddle
Hi all I am trying to find out if coot can export a map file that in text format. I have created a difference map from two cns maps and want to export it also in cns format (can be read in text eidtor). But till now, I can only save it in xx.map format that in ASCII format. How to do that?

Re: [COOT] How to make a map file readable

2009-11-30 Thread Eleanor Dodson
pebbleped...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I am trying to find out if coot can export a map file that in text format. I have created a difference map from two cns maps and want to export it also in cns format (can be read in text eidtor). But till now, I can only save it in xx.map format that in

Re: [COOT] How to make a map file readable

2009-11-30 Thread Paul Emsley
pebbleped...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I am trying to find out if coot can export a map file that in text format. I have created a difference map from two cns maps and want to export it also in cns format (can be read in text eidtor). But till now, I can only save it in xx.map format that in

Re: [COOT] Electron density map for ligand

2009-11-30 Thread Paul Emsley
pebbleped...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I want to know possible method to get electron density map for ligand only. The material are 2mFo-DFc map downloaded from EDS server and also coordinates from PDB. The electron density map contains protein, water and ligand. I want to build a electron

Re: [COOT] Electron density map for ligand

2009-11-30 Thread pebblepeddle
Hi There are some problems still existing. The pdb file contain two domain A and B. As I do not know how to select protein segid A and B and also waters at the same time, I do mask as following: First, I read .pdb file and then .ccp4 file. Then I use ExtensionMapsMask map by atom