Re: [COOT] Linking two sidechains with a double bond and refining

2023-08-11 Thread David Dranow
Hi David Briggs, Thank you for the suggestion of AceDrg. I gave it a try, using the Coot way and the Jligand way for AceDrg. For some reason the Coot method didn't make a cif, only jligand did. But the cif didn't have any effect on refinement. What did work for Phenix was to define the

Re: [COOT] Linking two sidechains with a double bond and refining

2023-08-01 Thread David Dranow
Hi Joel, That's a great idea! I've considerd it, and technically it would work as you suggest to refine correctly. However, that would look like more carbons come from one of the two precursor molecules than the other, which chemically would be wrong. I really want to avoid giving the

Re: [COOT] Linking two sidechains with a double bond and refining

2023-08-01 Thread David Briggs
Hi David, Rob Nicholls gave a talk about AceDrg and link generation at a CCP4 SW a few years ago.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4oTJ0bjD3M I think this will contain the answers you are looking for. Cheers, David -- Dr David C. Briggs CSci MRSB (he/him) Principal Laboratory Research

Re: [COOT] Linking two sidechains with a double bond and refining

2023-07-31 Thread Joel Tyndall
Hi, Not looking deep at your sequence/link, have you tried to move the link to a single bond and avoid the double as the linked bond? This way you can paraetrise the double bond correctly. Not sure is global phasing could help.. Joel -Original Message- From: Mailing list for users of

Re: [COOT] Linking two sidechains with a double bond and refining

2023-07-31 Thread David Dranow
Message was attached instead of in the body for some reason. Here it is" Hi Learned Friends, I'm trying to refine a structure that has a very similar staple to the one in 8GJS. In that structure, there's a double bond between residue 5 and 12 in chain B. I've tried to define a link using