Re: [courier-users] scalability

2003-11-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
Jesse Keating wrote: I've personally worked on a project to build a courier email system for a ISP like company. We run 2~3 front end email servers, tied in to a NFS backend for mail store. This system handles for approximately 10K users. What OS/filesystem did you use on your NFS server?

[courier-users] authmysqlrc + MYSQL_SELECT_CLAUSE

2003-11-04 Thread Bürkle, Roman
Hi @ll, i tried to activate the MYSQL_SELECT_CLAUSE in the authmysqlrc, but it didnt work. With the standard-parameters everthing works fine, but with the cutom-select not. In the mysql.log i see, that courier get a connect, but no query is sent afterwards. At least for me, the sql-query looks

[courier-users] What are the shutdown and wakeup timestamps in the log file?

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew T. Blackmon
So I have my 0.42.2 box up-and-running. But, I'm having some issues with system performance. In my initial testing, I was able to pump through a 100KB email on SMTP in a second. That was much better than the 15-20 seconds that my previous mailserver was putting through. Excellent. So, I complete

Re: [courier-users] scalability

2003-11-04 Thread Michael J Wise
On Nov 3, 2003, at 8:19 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: This system handles for approximately 10K users. But how WELL? Does it Breath Hard? Can it be used for anything else (like hosting a few hundred websites, etc.) ? Any ideas as to the load average and %age processor usage of the three mail

Re: [courier-users] Courier 20031101

2003-11-04 Thread Mirko Zeibig
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 12:28:01PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Download: http://www.courier-mta.org/download.php This is an update to the webmail server. Changes: * New, professionally designed icons. Additional navigation buttons. * sqwebmaild is now a daemon process, that

[courier-users] resend: Giving back to the community / Debian users and upgrading to 42.2

2003-11-04 Thread Matthew T. Blackmon
First, thanks, Sam, for pointing out the error in my configuration file. While it didn't solve my entire problem, it gave me enough of a leg up that, as of this moment, I am watching the queue from my old mail server to my brand-spanking new courier 0.42.2 server slowly dwindle. Let's just say

Re: [courier-users] Re: couriermlm annoying yes confirmation

2003-11-04 Thread Jeff Jansen
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 04:48, Mark Constable wrote: But Sam, it would be good if we had the option or not of wanting lists to be foolproofed from autoresponders or simpler for the end user to deal with. This particular feature is the main reason I don not use courier-mlm because I do not

Re: [courier-users] scalability

2003-11-04 Thread matthew kolb
On Nov 4, 2003, at 12:58 AM, Richard Houston wrote: Hi all, I am looking at putting a courier imap server in to production with a large amount of users, over 1000, in the near future. I have be asked a fer time as to how many users can the courier system handle. I will be using postfix and

Re: [courier-users] Re: couriermlm annoying yes confirmation

2003-11-04 Thread John Belmonte
Sam wrote: Since the purpose of the confirmation request is to make sure that the human being that owns this address actually sent the subscription request, it obviously won't be very useful to have a confirmation process that can be easily fooled by an autoresponder. ?? It would take 5 minutes

[courier-users] iplanet ldap and courier imap

2003-11-04 Thread synrat
I hope someone on this list has experience with LDAP. I'm using Iplanet LDAP 5.1, that comes bundled with Solaris 9. I'm not sure whether I need openldap libraries for building ldap support into courier. I did it without installing openldap and I seem to have authldap module which is linked to

Re: [courier-users] Re: couriermlm annoying yes confirmation

2003-11-04 Thread Tim Hunter
John Belmonte wrote: Sam wrote: Since the purpose of the confirmation request is to make sure that the human being that owns this address actually sent the subscription request, it obviously won't be very useful to have a confirmation process that can be easily fooled by an autoresponder.

Re: [courier-users] scalability

2003-11-04 Thread Stefan Kaltenbrunner
Richard Houston wrote: Hi all, I am looking at putting a courier imap server in to production with a large amount of users, over 1000, in the near future. I have be asked a fer time as to how many users can the courier system handle. I will be using postfix and courier-imap. Could I ask a few of

Re: [courier-users] scalability

2003-11-04 Thread Theodore J. Knab
I have a Courier-IMAP setup and a Postfix MTA with 3404 accounts on a dual IBM Netfinity type 8665-R6Y. The server is only a dual 700Mhz machine with 7GB of RAM and a 100GB RAID volume for IMAP mail. Yet, 1700 people use it daily. Between 195-240 users are simultaneously connected between

Re: [courier-users] Re: couriermlm annoying yes confirmation

2003-11-04 Thread John Belmonte
Tim Hunter wrote: Its not up to me to accept the patch, but I can see why you want it. In my opinion its not necessary, but if you insist your users are this ignorant I cannot argue. It's not about user ignorance. Computers are supposed to make our lives easier, not make us jump through hoops.

Re: [courier-users] Re: couriermlm annoying yes confirmation

2003-11-04 Thread Mark Constable
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 12:04 am, Tim Hunter wrote: ... Its not up to me to accept the patch, but I can see why you want it. In my opinion its not necessary, but if you insist your users are this ignorant I cannot argue. The tolerance of half our few thousand typical dialup clients is a wee blip

[courier-users] How do you upgrade courier?

2003-11-04 Thread Shaun Savage
I am running version 0.42 created by compiling from source to rpm. When I try to install a new version of courier using rpm install, courier gets unhappy. How do you save your configuration? I have been deleting the old, installing the new, and doing a total configuration again. in the

[courier-users] mailbox full DSN sender

2003-11-04 Thread Joe Laffey
For some reason I seem unable to get the sender of mailbox full messages set to a reasonable value. They keep coming from: From: Courier mail server at host.domain.com I have a file etc/dsnfrom that is: -rw-r--r-- 1 courier courier 55 Oct 13 11:59 dsnfrom cat dsnfrom: Mailserver Admin

Re: Re: [courier-users] scalability

2003-11-04 Thread Martin Furmanski
Hello, Michael J Wise, 100 k/day is like a bit more than 1/s your almost 1000 k/day would be 10/s that ain't a lot on average. i think even my crappy 166 MHz box could handle that. what are your peaks? === At 2003-11-03, 21:52:00 you wrote: === On Nov 3, 2003, at 8:19 PM, Jesse Keating

RE: [courier-users] What are the shutdown and wakeup timestamps in the log file?

2003-11-04 Thread David Gomillion
I had this problem when I had installed it too. It was working really well from installation until one weekend, the weekend before it went into production (wouldn't you know it). As any good systems engineer would do, before the server went onto the Internet, I installed a firewall. Hmmm, could

Re: [courier-users] Re: couriermlm annoying yes confirmation

2003-11-04 Thread Michael Carmack
John Belmonte wrote: Sam wrote: Since the purpose of the confirmation request is to make sure that the human being that owns this address actually sent the subscription request, it obviously won't be very useful to have a confirmation process that can be easily fooled by an autoresponder. ??

Re: [courier-users] authmysqlrc + MYSQL_SELECT_CLAUSE

2003-11-04 Thread Rodrigo Severo
Bürkle wrote: Hi @ll, i tried to activate the MYSQL_SELECT_CLAUSE in the authmysqlrc, but it didnt work. With the standard-parameters everthing works fine, but with the cutom-select not. In the mysql.log i see, that courier get a connect, but no query is sent afterwards. At least for me, the

Re: [courier-users] Re: couriermlm annoying yes confirmation

2003-11-04 Thread Michael Carmack
John Belmonte wrote: Tim Hunter wrote: Computers are supposed to make our lives easier, not make us jump through hoops. I won't waste user time with a protection that can be trivially circumvented. If courier's mailing list manager were popular, do you really think that all malicious

[courier-users] How to share the entire user mailbox to an admin user?

2003-11-04 Thread Fabiano Felix
Hi all, I'm wondering that if is possible (using a type of sharing command) to sharing the entire mailbox of all users to an admin user (for example, to remove some determined messages). I know that it's not legal, but one of my customers are questioned it for me. Case possible, how this user can

Re: [courier-users] Re: couriermlm annoying yes confirmation

2003-11-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
John Belmonte wrote: It's not about user ignorance. Computers are supposed to make our lives easier, not make us jump through hoops. I won't waste user time with a protection that can be trivially circumvented. It can only be circumvented by the user who's subscribing. If they do that, then

RE: [courier-users] How to share the entire user mailbox to an admin user?

2003-11-04 Thread David Gomillion
I'm not sure what you mean by it not being legal but... Two ways of doing this come to my mind. 1. Either know all of your user's passwords or create duplicate accounts for your administrator with the same Maildir. (very bad) Depending on the number of accounts, this could require significant

Re: [courier-users] scalability

2003-11-04 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 November 2003 23:52, Michael J Wise wrote: But how WELL? Does it Breath Hard? Can it be used for anything else (like hosting a few hundred websites, etc.) ? I'd have to ask the other party involved with the project, he's closer to

Re: [courier-users] Courier 20031101

2003-11-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
Mirko Zeibig wrote: I do not need the fax-package for courier, so I build the rpms on RedHat 9 with the following command: rpmbuild -tb --define '_without_fax 1' courier*tar.bz2 Easier to do: rpmbuild -tb --without fax courier*tar.bz2 Now as the spec-file holds %define

RE: [courier-users] How to share the entire user mailbox to an admin user?

2003-11-04 Thread David Gomillion
OK, now I'm replying to my own post, because I got a minute and went ahead and tried it. I was able to create a symlink called .alias in my Maildir of my account. The command I typed is ln -s /usr/mail/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Maildir/ /usr/mail/my_account/Maildir/.alias This was all on one line,

Re: [courier-users] How to share the entire user mailbox to an admin user?

2003-11-04 Thread Tim Hunter
David Gomillion wrote: OK, now I'm replying to my own post, because I got a minute and went ahead and tried it. I was able to create a symlink called .alias in my Maildir of my account. The command I typed is ln -s /usr/mail/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Maildir/ /usr/mail/my_account/Maildir/.alias

[courier-users] RE: couriermlm annoying yes confirmation

2003-11-04 Thread Julian Mehnle
Gordon Messmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have the option of using more convenient, less secure software. There's plenty out there to choose from. The same argument applies to the use of stupid autoresponders. I don't see why Courier MLM should require a manual marking of confirmation mails

Re: [courier-users] RE: couriermlm annoying yes confirmation

2003-11-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
Julian Mehnle wrote: Gordon Messmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have the option of using more convenient, less secure software. There's plenty out there to choose from. The same argument applies to the use of stupid autoresponders. I don't see why Courier MLM should require a manual marking

[courier-users] Re: How do you upgrade courier?

2003-11-04 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Shaun Savage writes: I am running version 0.42 created by compiling from source to rpm. When I try to install a new version of courier using rpm install, courier gets unhappy. Use rpm upgrade instead. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

[courier-users] RE: couriermlm annoying yes confirmation

2003-11-04 Thread Julian Mehnle
Gordon Messmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the MLM is going to go through the trouble to verify that a user really wants to be subscribed, it should do *something* to make sure that it's not going to interpret a very common problem as confirmation that a user wants to be subscribed.

[courier-users] dsbl.org and postmaster@[x.x.x.x]

2003-11-04 Thread alan milligan
Hi, I made a post about this a week ago and have yet to receive an answer. It appears my mailserver has managed to get itself listed on dsbl.org's boycott list (still trying to figure out the breach as according to the offending mail message, it came via HTTP!!!) Their standard procedure is

[courier-users] Must run makealiases after creating/changing defaultdomain

2003-11-04 Thread William Hue
I don't know if anyone else has tripped over this already, in 0.37.2 (I know, I know, it's old): In the courier(8) man page, in the section describing the me configuration file, there is the following text: Warning: If you change the contents of this configura- tion file,

Re: [courier-users] How to share the entire user mailbox to an admin user?

2003-11-04 Thread Systems Administrator
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Fabiano Felix wrote: Hi all, I'm wondering that if is possible (using a type of sharing command) to sharing the entire mailbox of all users to an admin user (for example, to remove some determined messages). I know that it's not legal, but one If you're a BOFH,

Re: [courier-users] RE: couriermlm annoying yes confirmation

2003-11-04 Thread Mark Constable
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:16 am, Julian Mehnle wrote: Gordon Messmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the MLM is going to go through the trouble to verify that a user really wants to be subscribed, it should do *something* to make sure that it's not going to interpret a very common problem as