Re: [courier-users] Re: Erroneous build dependencies in courier-imap-1.6.0-20021025

2002-10-31 Thread Robin Bowes
Jesse, On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:06:38 - (GMT) Robin Bowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # For example, somewhere in the RPM build instructions, it wouldn't be # unreasonable to say In order to build this package you need the # following packages installed: blah, blah, FAM, blah # # After

Re: [courier-users] Re: Erroneous build dependencies in courier-imap-1.6.0-20021025

2002-10-31 Thread Jesse Keating
On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:35:56 - (GMT) Robin Bowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # Let's face it, one of the main attractions of the rpm paradigm is # that it means that, ahem, less technically adept people can still # build and install software. So potentially, the users who are # perhaps most

Re: [courier-users] Re: Erroneous build dependencies in courier-imap-1.6.0-20021025

2002-10-30 Thread Robin Bowes
Sam, Anyone who uses --nodeps on a production server needs to have his head examined. I agree. However, my box is not a production server, it's one I experiment with at home. All of this is getting away from the thrust of my original point which is that courier-imap does not *need* FAM - it

Re: [courier-users] Re: Erroneous build dependencies in courier-imap-1.6.0-20021025

2002-10-30 Thread Juha Saarinen
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Robin Bowes wrote: FAM may be available to all recent versions of Red Hat but that doesn't mean that it is installed. xinetd is available to all recent versions of Red Hat but that doesn't mean it is installed on every server. I think you're missing the point here.

Re: [courier-users] Re: Erroneous build dependencies in courier-imap-1.6.0-20021025

2002-10-30 Thread Robin Bowes
Juha, On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, Robin Bowes wrote: FAM may be available to all recent versions of Red Hat but that doesn't mean that it is installed. xinetd is available to all recent versions of Red Hat but that doesn't mean it is installed on every server. I think you're missing the

Re: [courier-users] Re: Erroneous build dependencies in courier-imap-1.6.0-20021025

2002-10-30 Thread Jesse Keating
On Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:06:38 - (GMT) Robin Bowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # For example, somewhere in the RPM build instructions, it wouldn't be # unreasonable to say In order to build this package you need the # following packages installed: blah, blah, FAM, blah # # After all, it's

Re: [courier-users] Re: Erroneous build dependencies in courier-imap-1.6.0-20021025

2002-10-29 Thread Robin Bowes
Sam, FAM is optional, however it does provide for some value-added functionality. In the event that the additional value-added functionality is expected, the dependency provides a hint that the required prerequisites are missing. Ok. Can you document this in the php build instructions?

[courier-users] Re: Erroneous build dependencies in courier-imap-1.6.0-20021025

2002-10-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Robin Bowes writes: Sam, FAM is optional, however it does provide for some value-added functionality. In the event that the additional value-added functionality is expected, the dependency provides a hint that the required prerequisites are missing. Ok. Can you document this in the php build

Re: [courier-users] Re: Erroneous build dependencies in courier-imap-1.6.0-20021025

2002-10-29 Thread Robin Bowes
Juri, [root@celery i386]# rpm -Uvh fam* error: Failed dependencies: portmap is needed by fam-2.6.8-4 libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2) is needed by fam-2.6.8-4 [more failed dependencies] Uhm, where do you have this fam-version from? The one distributed with RedHat-7.2 (you

Re: [courier-users] Re: Erroneous build dependencies in courier-imap-1.6.0-20021025

2002-10-29 Thread Juri Haberland
Robin Bowes wrote: When I say I use Redhat 7.2 I mean that that's what I originally installed. I've got a lot of later versions of software installed from when I attempted to install apache2 from rpms so I tend to use later rpms from, e.g. Redhat 8.0. Well, then there's nothing Sam can do

Re: [courier-users] Re: Erroneous build dependencies in courier-imap-1.6.0-20021025

2002-10-29 Thread Robin Bowes
Juri, Robin Bowes wrote: When I say I use Redhat 7.2 I mean that that's what I originally installed. I've got a lot of later versions of software installed from when I attempted to install apache2 from rpms so I tend to use later rpms from, e.g. Redhat 8.0. Well, then there's nothing Sam

Re: [courier-users] Re: Erroneous build dependencies in courier-imap-1.6.0-20021025

2002-10-29 Thread Robin Bowes
Sam, Robin Bowes writes: Sam, FAM is optional, however it does provide for some value-added functionality. In the event that the additional value-added functionality is expected, the dependency provides a hint that the required prerequisites are missing. Ok. Can you document this in the

[courier-users] Re: Erroneous build dependencies in courier-imap-1.6.0-20021025

2002-10-29 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Robin Bowes writes: libstdc++.so.5 installed (from libstdc++-3.2-0.1) and I managed to install fam using the --nodeps option. Congratulations -- you have a completely broken server. Hmmm. What leads you to that conclusion? Ok, so it's not going to win any prizes for the cleanest package set