Re: Trimming the CPAN - Automatic Purging

2010-03-25 Thread Ovid
--- On Thu, 25/3/10, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: From: David Golden xda...@gmail.com I don't think it's a good idea to make it hard for people to find older versions of a distribution -- where hard means have to track it down on backpan.  (Though we could make clients better

Re: Trimming the CPAN - Automatic Purging

2010-03-25 Thread Barbie
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:12:32AM +, Tim Bunce wrote: Currently on PAUSE you have to explicitly delete old uploads. Which often is a good thing. While BACKPAN exists, it isn't somewhere that many go to look for old distributions. For me and probably others, BACKPAN only distributions are

Re: Trimming the CPAN - Automatic Purging

2010-03-25 Thread Graham Barr
On Mar 25, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Barbie wrote: Lastly I would also personnally be annoyed if only the latest versions were available, as I often make great use of the diff tool on search.cpan.org. Having only the latest version renders that great tool redundant :( I use that too :-) and it is

Re: Trimming the CPAN - Automatic Purging

2010-03-25 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 01:42:58PM +, Barbie wrote: There are many distributions on CPAN that older versions work on a particular perl/os, but more recent ones don't. Latest isn't necessarily the greatest. If you are going to perform this then it should really feed off the CPAN Testers

Re: Trimming the CPAN - Automatic Purging

2010-03-25 Thread Chris Nandor
What Jarkko said. On Mar 25, 2010, at 08:00, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: I have one case where the v1 and v2 of a module are simply incompatible, but v1 still works, and unless the users have a compelling reason, they won't migrate. Pulling the rug from under them would be quite

Re: Trimming the CPAN - Automatic Purging

2010-03-25 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 25 Mar 2010, at 15:36, Chris Nandor wrote: I like that solution better [snip] But solution to what? Are we convinced there's actually a problem here? -- Andy Armstrong, Hexten

Re: Trimming the CPAN - Automatic Purging

2010-03-25 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Mar 25, 2010, at 8:38, Andy Armstrong wrote: I like that solution better [snip] But solution to what? Are we convinced there's actually a problem here? CPAN has almost 200k files. www.cpan.org says there are 17627 modules. rsyncing a gazillion files doesn't work that well (on the

Re: Trimming the CPAN - Automatic Purging

2010-03-25 Thread nadim khemir
On Mar 25, 2010, at 8:38, Andy Armstrong wrote: I like that solution better [snip] But solution to what? Are we convinced there's actually a problem here? CPAN has almost 200k files. www.cpan.org says there are 17627 modules. rsyncing a gazillion files doesn't work

Re: Trimming the CPAN - Automatic Purging

2010-03-25 Thread Barbie
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 02:08:45PM -0700, Geoffrey Broadwell wrote: Forgive a lurker, but wasn't that the point of this: http://search.cpan.org/~andk/File-Rsync-Mirror-Recent-0.0.7/ When I saw that announced, I remember thinking Yay, large archive rsync problem solved! Did it not

Re: Trimming the CPAN - Automatic Purging

2010-03-25 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Mar 25, 2010, at 13:23, Eric Wilhelm wrote: Maybe CPAN mirrors are more easily updated than via a generic rsync? Is the burden only network/cpu for checking whether a bunch of old archives have changed, or does disk matter? Most CPAN mirrors use rsync. It's not realistic to make them

Re: Trimming the CPAN - Automatic Purging

2010-03-25 Thread Adam Kennedy
What he said. Most people don't mirror CPAN. They mirror many things. This is the same reason we've struggled with statistics. How do you ask someone mirroring three dozen different things to put in a special log-munging tool just for us. Adam K On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Ask Bjørn