Re: Trimming the CPAN - Automatic Purging

2010-03-29 Thread Steffen Mueller
Hi Elaine, Elaine Ashton wrote: On Mar 28, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Randy Kobes wrote: Jarkko and I were talking about it this morning - as he's not in favour of pruning - while trying to think of a way around the size problem and he reminded me of the idea that, if I recall correctly was Adreas'

Re: Perl 6 versus the CPAN

2010-01-05 Thread Steffen Mueller
Hi David, hi all, David Golden wrote: Except that we're in feature freeze for Perl 5.12, so that won't actually happen until 5.13. But as soon as Perl 5.12.0 ships, I plan to pull the trigger on JSON and HTTP::Lite and make them CPAN.pm dependencies so we can (a) bootstrap CPAN with HTTP and

Re: CMSP 01. Update the YAML version declaration

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
Hi all, David Golden wrote: 01. Update the YAML version declaration Proposal: The version declaration for YAML has not been --- #YAML:1.0 for a long time, update it to the current YAML 1.1 equivalent. I'm opposed on practical grounds, as we want Meta parsing in the Perl core

Re: CMSP 02. Formally switch to YAML Tiny

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden xda...@gmail.com [2009-10-09T07:42:06] 02. Formally switch to YAML Tiny Proposal: Change the language referring to YAML to instead refer to YAML Tiny and update the specification URL to point to the YAML Tiny specification. (AdamKennedy) Accept with

Re: CMSP 05. Schema

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
Graham Barr wrote: On Oct 9, 2009, at 6:43 AM, David Golden wrote: 05. Schema Proposal: The META spec should come along with a formal schema definition. (SlavenRezic) I am not so much concerned about a formal schema. But an official module to validate, or purge bad data, would be great.

Re: CMSP 06. Data structures, not YAML

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden xda...@gmail.com [2009-10-09T07:44:43] 06. Data structures, not YAML Proposal: The META spec should be defined in terms of (Perl) data structures, and not in terms of YAML. (Slaven Rezic) Agreed, but the spec should be very clear (perhaps, as said, in an

Re: CMSP 10. Add a free-text prerequisite field

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
Hans Dieter Pearcey wrote: Excerpts from David Golden's message of Fri Oct 09 07:47:00 -0400 2009: 10. Add a free-text prerequisite field Proposal: Add free-text entries that *describe* prerequisites that cannot be described right now, like prerequisite: a working libexpat, Need a perl with

Re: CMSP 14. Prerequisites should be mutually exclusive

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
David Golden wrote: 14. Prerequisites should be mutually exclusive * I think this would remove a certain amount of useful flexibility, standard light weight META Object modules could easily automate the production of the merged list. This feels like sacrificing on a fundamental point to

Re: CMSP 16. Binary Package Dependencies

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
David Golden wrote: 16. Binary Package Dependencies If we could get this right, I'd give all my votes for this. I know that at least Adam and I had been thinking hard about this kind of thing in a different context a few years back. It's utterly hard to get right if at all possible.

Re: CMSP 19. Make repository resource a hash

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
David Golden wrote: 19. Make repository resource a hash +1 Steffen

Re: CMSP 20. Make bugtracker resource a hash

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
Hans Dieter Pearcey wrote: Excerpts from David Golden's message of Fri Oct 09 07:51:29 -0400 2009: 20. Make bugtracker resource a hash Proposal: The bugtracker resource shoudl be made into a hash that defines different types of resources, e.g. web page, email report address, etc. (#toolchain

Re: CMSP 21. Formalize optional_features

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
David Golden wrote: 21. Formalize optional_features I've had more hassle than luck with optional features, but since some people make valid use of it, I'd be (slightly) against removal. +1 to formalization Steffen

Re: CMSP 23. Have a development version flag

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
David Golden wrote: 23. Have a development version flag * Con: Development version'ness would not be determinable post-installation AdamKennedy Correction to my earlier reply: If we have the META info available *easily* post installation (cf. 33), my vote becomes a +1. Steffen

Re: CMSP 25. Controlling test suite runs

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden xda...@gmail.com [2009-10-09T07:53:28] 25. Controlling test suite runs Proposal: The META spec should add flags to indicate that distribution's tests may be shuffled or run in parallel. (SlavenRezic) I like the idea in general. I'd just set aside a name

Re: CMSP 24. Add a release_status field

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
David Golden wrote: 24. Add a release_status field Obviously supersedes the devel version proposal (23). This would depend on post installation, easy querying of META information (33). Steffen

Re: CMSP 26. Specify a DLSIP resource

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
Hans Dieter Pearcey wrote: Excerpts from David Golden's message of Fri Oct 09 07:53:50 -0400 2009: 26. Specify a DLSIP resource Proposal: DLSIP codes should be specified in META.* as a resource. My impression of DLSIP is that it's nearly as unused as the modules list. Is this inaccurate?

Re: CMSP 28. Short description

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden xda...@gmail.com [2009-10-09T07:54:35] 28. Short description Proposal: Field for short description that can be used in search (with higher priority than long description), when generating README, OS packages or submitting dist to Ohloh, Freshmeat and

Re: CMSP 27. Long description

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
Ricardo Signes wrote: * David Golden xda...@gmail.com [2009-10-09T07:54:13] 27. Long description Proposal: Field for long description that can be used in search, when generating README, OS packages or submitting dist to Ohloh, Freshmeat and similar sites. --Chorny 19:40, 21 September 2009

Re: CMSP 31. Version changes

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
Hans Dieter Pearcey wrote: Excerpts from David Golden's message of Fri Oct 09 07:55:36 -0400 2009: 31. Version changes Proposal: Description of changes in that versions and tags for changes. Useful for submission to Freshmeat and for quick review of changes. --Chorny 18:51, 30 September 2009

Re: CMSP 34. Formally reserve keys for private 'in-house' use

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
Graham Barr wrote: * David Golden xda...@gmail.com [2009-10-09T07:56:46] 34. Formally reserve keys for private 'in-house' use personally I dislike the case distinction and would rather switch to using x- prefixes which are used in so many other places to mean private extensions +1

Re: CMSP 02. Formally switch to YAML Tiny

2009-10-09 Thread Steffen Mueller
Ricardo Signes wrote: * Steffen Mueller nj88ud...@sneakemail.com [2009-10-09T10:04:44] As for adopting JSON as the default format: What's the chances of including a full JSON parser in core? I believe they are good. JSON.pm has no weird prereqs, works admirably, and the author has