Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down

2003-06-08 Thread Eric Rescorla
exercise? Some quirk of supporting certain types of hardware like nCipher boxes that do async crypto/scatter-gather? I've had to do this on environments where threads weren't a viable option. See, for instance, my paper from USENIX Security 2002. -Ekr -- [Eric Rescorla

Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down

2003-06-06 Thread Eric Rescorla
for a user cert? This isn't really true in the SSL case: To a first order, everyone ignores any extensions (except sometimes the constraints) and uses the CN for the DNS name of the server. -Ekr -- [Eric Rescorla [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down

2003-06-05 Thread Eric Rescorla
James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- James A. Donald Or to say the same thing in different words -- why can't HTTPS be more like SSH?Why are we seeing a snow storm of scam mails trying to get us to login to e-g0ld.com? Eric Rescorla Because HTTPS is designed to let

Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down

2003-06-05 Thread Eric Rescorla
storm of scam mails trying to get us to login to e-g0ld.com? Because HTTPS is designed to let you talk to people you've never talked before, which is an inherently harder problem than allowing you to talk to people you have. -Ekr -- [Eric Rescorla [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down

2003-06-05 Thread Eric Rescorla
James A. Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric Rescorla Nonsense. One can simply cache the certificate, exactly as one does with SSH. In fact, Mozilla at least does exactly this if you tell it to. The reason that this is uncommon is because the environments where HTTPS is used

Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down

2003-06-04 Thread Eric Rescorla
Ian Grigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eric Rescorla wrote: True, although, that begs the question as to how they learn. Only by doing, I'd say. I think one learns a lot more from making mistakes and building ones own attempt than following the words of wise. One learns by *practicing

Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down

2003-06-02 Thread Eric Rescorla
for PKCS-1) but it's a long process. However, I don't think it's helpful to design a new system that doesn't have any obvious advantages over one of the standard systems. -Ekr -- [Eric Rescorla [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rtfm.com/

Re: Maybe It's Snake Oil All the Way Down

2003-06-02 Thread Eric Rescorla
turn a sou or two. And you can bet the buyer wouldn't be doing any posting. With apologies to Bon Ami, Hasn't cracked yet is not a compelling security story. It's vastly better than just designed last week by someone who has no relevant experience -Ekr -- [Eric Rescorla